Skip to comments.NBC's Andrea Mitchell: McChrystal Was Insubordinate And Should Be "Canned"
Posted on 06/22/2010 7:04:51 AM PDT by i88schwartz
What Gen. McChrystal said "crosses the line of insubordination and it crosses the line of the military code of justice. He has challenged the commander-in-chief and legally, morally, ethically and professionally he ought to be canned."
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Sure. Shoot the messenger.
Anyone who criticized Dubya was a media darling.
The sad thing is that she’s right.
MacArthur got $h!tcanned for the same reason.
Andrea Mitchell thinks that she and the community-organizer-in-chief know more about the UCMJ than a real American does? Clearly she's as arrogant as her hero in our White House. I prefer to look at this from the opposite perspective. The thug from Kenya/Chicago/Indonesia/Hawaii/DC has challenged a great leader illegally, immorally, unethically and unprofessionally, and the thug ought to be canned.
Obama knows nothing about the military or commander-in-chiefing. Waaaaaay above his pay grade.
So — I just went on Rolling Stone’s site and looked at today’s issue. I did not see any sign of this article????? Can someone post it? Or has the Wizard done away with it?
Any military commander in the field or even at home has the right and perhaps even the duty to question the president on a matter of security and policy especially at a time of war.
Of course, such questions could be considered insubordination bur only if they are followed by not only a failure to follow orders but also if the commander takes such independent action that embarrasses the country or the president such as the case that occurred with General MacArthur and Harry Truman.
This is what happens when you let a bunch of politicians determine how to fight a war. A lot of America’s finest have died BECAUSE of the buffoons on the hill in Washington.
There were officers who were insubordinate to Bush. Shinseki comes to mind. Any officer who cannot obey the orders of the Commander in Chief needs to resign his commission. This isn’t partisan — this is about chain of command.
A nanosecond would be too much time to spend in considering the opinion of this never-was, talentless, fading hag representative of the low-merit, easily entered “profession” of journalism.
If he gets relieved of duty, that means he will be available for service in the 2nd Continental Army.
Article comes out on Friday.
There MUST be some example of the media fawning over a general officer criticizing Bush that can be used to show blatant media bias.
If GWB were in office, Andrea would be begging Congress to hold hearings with the General.
Andrea Mitchell is a Jag lawyer??
You can speak out, but if you do you should first resign your Commission. The President is Commander in Chief, and officers under his command should publicly support his orders, even if they privately disagree. If they cannot, they need to resign.
I have always thought his strategy was a little too PC, but I would still take his opinions over zero’s.
We're losing more men than ever in Afghanistan these days while the Kenyan Kommie golfs.
McCrystal is right, but unfortunately he does not have the authority.
That is true. And MacArthur should have been canned, only much sooner.
We’ll, yet again, see the hypocrisy of the State Run Media. They will all line up calling for the firing of McChrystal. Yet, when there was any dessent from the military when Bush was President, the SRM was all about freedom of speech and “doing the right thing”, etc.
For what it is worth, McChrystal should be fired. Like it or not, Obama is the CIC. If McChrystal wants to criticize him in public, resign and then do it. What hs is doing makes him look weak. And now having to grovel and apologize ... geez. His troops will have NO respect for him.
A broken clock is right twice a day. NBC rules of news:
Questioning a democrat president during a time of war is insubordination.
Questioning a Republican president during a time of war is political dissent.
One may think that a chain of command is to be ordered and followed. There has been a lot of good men killed because of LBJ directing the war 4,000 + miles away. There will come a time when the pentagon will have to tell Obama to kiss ass and move out of the way...Obama has no experience, and he is one that I will not follow or put my men in danger just because of his fruitcake whims. I am proud of McChrystals standing up and saying the truth, and I am saddened that he is apologizing to the chief pussy in the white house. Obama loves yes men, his aim is to destroy America, and the more that we stand up to him, the better, but you may not agree, but some times you have to screw the chain of command.
He voted for MaObama, promised that he would implement and prove that PC combat can and will work. He has NEVER been an adequate commander and needs to be fired.
Only problem is, MaObama will replace him with much worse. Due to the “CIC” agenda to pull all the troops out in July, 2011. He wants this thing to fail so he can show his extreme base that cutting and running is the thing to do. The ensuing mess this will create will make the current WOT look like weekend Guard meeting.
Yep. This scumbag Mitchell would be praising a general who pulled the same crap with a Republican president.
Do you come on here just to show everybody what a good Obama pet you are?
No, dugout Doug was canned for defying civilian authority and orders. He deserved to be fired in the same way McClelland deserved to be fired during the Civil War. Both were meglomaniacs who had Caesar complexes. If he had been fired for being critical of the president or policies he would have been gone much earlier. Any senior officer who speaks out against civilian authority, regardless of the party should expect to be called on the carpet. What the general said was true and not defiance of civilian authority but unfortunately, too many generals will back down and recant/apologize rather than be fired.
Wheels within wheels, is Omama going to fire Gen. McChrystal in order to later say we lost Afghanistan because the military leaders were disloyal to his administration and monkey wrenched victory?
Save our country by voting in real conservatives who have ethics and backbones in 11/2010 & 11/2012.
If he gets relieved of duty, that means he will be available for service in the 2nd Continental Army. ............................. I want to join, I may be another John Burns of Gettysburg fame, and like him, I can still shoot straight.
Andrea’s just pissed that Mika is getting all the attention for being a paid White House mouthpiece.
Bring McChrystal home and bring the troops with him.
General Petraeus said there was only double digits of al Queda there. So what we have is mission creep involving ourselves in a local power struggle. This isn’t a cause for our troops to die - no matter who wins, we lose.
My dh commented recently that alot of the casualities are Army, not Marine. He said it indicates that the troops are not on the move, just sitting still as targets. McCrystal may have expressed his frustration privately with no response from Obama and the other politicians.
If 80% of the military agrees with McXtal then he needs to fire them also and find some new recruits.
My only question is..who invented the current ROE? McXtal or the WH?
And if they were active military, American Heros.
A soldier takes an oath to the Constitution not to the President. That being said, you are correct, if he’s got a problem with order, resign and take your gripes to the press and public.
McChrystal can do a lot more damage out of the military then he can in. A bunch of interviews and a good book will go a long way to take care of Zero.
So the oath is in fact an oath of duty to the office of the Presidency, insofar as the individual serving that role is fulfilling his Constitutional duty and issuing lawful orders.
“Both were meglomaniacs who had Caesar complexes.”
You are absolutely correct. Except, McCelland would not fight.
Unfortunately, you are correct, but I have never seen the disdain for any president by the troops as I have since zero was elected.
What would this witch know about being insubordinate? /sarc
Oh, great. Like I really want a biased media news reader setting combat policy for my Marine son in Afghanistan.
Being televised does NOT impart any special knowledge or wisdom. Maybe this is why we have to endure so much of Obama on TV? If we hear enough, we’ll actually think he’s smart? Maybe he needs to adopt a cultured, British accent...