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NBC's Andrea Mitchell: McChrystal Was Insubordinate And Should Be "Canned"
RealClearPolitics ^ | June 22, 2010 | RealClearPolitics

Posted on 06/22/2010 7:04:51 AM PDT by i88schwartz

What Gen. McChrystal said "crosses the line of insubordination and it crosses the line of the military code of justice. He has challenged the commander-in-chief and legally, morally, ethically and professionally he ought to be canned."

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KEYWORDS: andreamitchell; barackobama; stanleymcchrystal
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1 posted on 06/22/2010 7:04:52 AM PDT by i88schwartz
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To: i88schwartz

Sure. Shoot the messenger.
Anyone who criticized Dubya was a media darling.


2 posted on 06/22/2010 7:07:17 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: i88schwartz

The sad thing is that she’s right.

MacArthur got $h!tcanned for the same reason.


3 posted on 06/22/2010 7:08:14 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: i88schwartz
What Gen. McChrystal said "crosses the line of insubordination and it crosses the line of the military code of justice. He has challenged the commander-in-chief and legally, morally, ethically and professionally he ought to be canned."

Andrea Mitchell thinks that she and the community-organizer-in-chief know more about the UCMJ than a real American does? Clearly she's as arrogant as her hero in our White House. I prefer to look at this from the opposite perspective. The thug from Kenya/Chicago/Indonesia/Hawaii/DC has challenged a great leader illegally, immorally, unethically and unprofessionally, and the thug ought to be canned.

4 posted on 06/22/2010 7:08:31 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: i88schwartz

Obama knows nothing about the military or commander-in-chiefing. Waaaaaay above his pay grade.


5 posted on 06/22/2010 7:08:54 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: shalom aleichem

So — I just went on Rolling Stone’s site and looked at today’s issue. I did not see any sign of this article????? Can someone post it? Or has the Wizard done away with it?


6 posted on 06/22/2010 7:09:06 AM PDT by bboop (We don't need no stinkin' VAT)
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To: i88schwartz

Any military commander in the field or even at home has the right and perhaps even the duty to question the president on a matter of security and policy especially at a time of war.

Of course, such questions could be considered insubordination bur only if they are followed by not only a failure to follow orders but also if the commander takes such independent action that embarrasses the country or the president such as the case that occurred with General MacArthur and Harry Truman.


7 posted on 06/22/2010 7:09:45 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: i88schwartz

This is what happens when you let a bunch of politicians determine how to fight a war. A lot of America’s finest have died BECAUSE of the buffoons on the hill in Washington.


8 posted on 06/22/2010 7:09:56 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! Had enough "history" yet?)
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To: shalom aleichem

There were officers who were insubordinate to Bush. Shinseki comes to mind. Any officer who cannot obey the orders of the Commander in Chief needs to resign his commission. This isn’t partisan — this is about chain of command.


9 posted on 06/22/2010 7:10:12 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: All

bump


10 posted on 06/22/2010 7:10:49 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: i88schwartz

A nanosecond would be too much time to spend in considering the opinion of this never-was, talentless, fading hag representative of the low-merit, easily entered “profession” of journalism.


11 posted on 06/22/2010 7:11:42 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: i88schwartz

If he gets relieved of duty, that means he will be available for service in the 2nd Continental Army.


12 posted on 06/22/2010 7:11:45 AM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: i88schwartz
Any General that spoke out against Bush, which there were plenty, Bitchelle was calling them heroes.
13 posted on 06/22/2010 7:11:50 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: bboop

Article comes out on Friday.

There MUST be some example of the media fawning over a general officer criticizing Bush that can be used to show blatant media bias.


14 posted on 06/22/2010 7:11:54 AM PDT by Flightdeck (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: i88schwartz

If GWB were in office, Andrea would be begging Congress to hold hearings with the General.


15 posted on 06/22/2010 7:11:59 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: All

Andrea Mitchell is a Jag lawyer??


16 posted on 06/22/2010 7:12:13 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: Ev Reeman
Any military commander in the field or even at home has the right and perhaps even the duty to question the president on a matter of security and policy especially at a time of war.

You can speak out, but if you do you should first resign your Commission. The President is Commander in Chief, and officers under his command should publicly support his orders, even if they privately disagree. If they cannot, they need to resign.

17 posted on 06/22/2010 7:13:37 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Bosco

I have always thought his strategy was a little too PC, but I would still take his opinions over zero’s.


18 posted on 06/22/2010 7:13:44 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Alter Kaker
Looks like he's on his way out. I hope he tells the nation what he really thinks after he leaves.

We're losing more men than ever in Afghanistan these days while the Kenyan Kommie golfs.

19 posted on 06/22/2010 7:14:13 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: i88schwartz

McCrystal is right, but unfortunately he does not have the authority.


20 posted on 06/22/2010 7:15:50 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: clee1

That is true. And MacArthur should have been canned, only much sooner.


21 posted on 06/22/2010 7:16:42 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (No matter where you go there are always more stupid people.)
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To: i88schwartz

We’ll, yet again, see the hypocrisy of the State Run Media. They will all line up calling for the firing of McChrystal. Yet, when there was any dessent from the military when Bush was President, the SRM was all about freedom of speech and “doing the right thing”, etc.

For what it is worth, McChrystal should be fired. Like it or not, Obama is the CIC. If McChrystal wants to criticize him in public, resign and then do it. What hs is doing makes him look weak. And now having to grovel and apologize ... geez. His troops will have NO respect for him.


22 posted on 06/22/2010 7:17:24 AM PDT by Jackson57
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To: i88schwartz

A broken clock is right twice a day. NBC rules of news:

Questioning a democrat president during a time of war is insubordination.

Questioning a Republican president during a time of war is political dissent.


23 posted on 06/22/2010 7:19:40 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Alter Kaker

One may think that a chain of command is to be ordered and followed. There has been a lot of good men killed because of LBJ directing the war 4,000 + miles away. There will come a time when the pentagon will have to tell Obama to kiss ass and move out of the way...Obama has no experience, and he is one that I will not follow or put my men in danger just because of his fruitcake whims. I am proud of McChrystals standing up and saying the truth, and I am saddened that he is apologizing to the chief pussy in the white house. Obama loves yes men, his aim is to destroy America, and the more that we stand up to him, the better, but you may not agree, but some times you have to screw the chain of command.


24 posted on 06/22/2010 7:20:44 AM PDT by Bullfrogg (American by birth, Irish by heritage, and hellraiser by choice)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
A lot of America's finest have died because of McChrystal's convoluted “Rules of Engagement” (Oxymoron) as well.

He voted for MaObama, promised that he would implement and prove that PC combat can and will work. He has NEVER been an adequate commander and needs to be fired.

Only problem is, MaObama will replace him with much worse. Due to the “CIC” agenda to pull all the troops out in July, 2011. He wants this thing to fail so he can show his extreme base that cutting and running is the thing to do. The ensuing mess this will create will make the current WOT look like weekend Guard meeting.

25 posted on 06/22/2010 7:21:03 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: Flightdeck
Lt. Gen. Sanchez was feeding the MSM with anti-Bush crap from day one. Sanchez didn't even have the guts to allow the MSM to use his name and his name only became public after he retired.
26 posted on 06/22/2010 7:22:37 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: shalom aleichem
Anyone who criticized Dubya was a media darling.

Yep. This scumbag Mitchell would be praising a general who pulled the same crap with a Republican president.

27 posted on 06/22/2010 7:22:49 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Alter Kaker

Do you come on here just to show everybody what a good Obama pet you are?


28 posted on 06/22/2010 7:26:21 AM PDT by Tempest (I believe in the sanctity of life... As long as you can afford it.)
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To: clee1

No, dugout Doug was canned for defying civilian authority and orders. He deserved to be fired in the same way McClelland deserved to be fired during the Civil War. Both were meglomaniacs who had Caesar complexes. If he had been fired for being critical of the president or policies he would have been gone much earlier. Any senior officer who speaks out against civilian authority, regardless of the party should expect to be called on the carpet. What the general said was true and not defiance of civilian authority but unfortunately, too many generals will back down and recant/apologize rather than be fired.


29 posted on 06/22/2010 7:26:39 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Flightdeck

Wesley Clarke?


30 posted on 06/22/2010 7:27:28 AM PDT by madison10
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To: i88schwartz
Thank you Andrea for the demagoguery and propaganda hit piece. Thanks also for your naked bias.
31 posted on 06/22/2010 7:28:10 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: bboop

http://markhalperin.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/r1109mcchrystal.pdf


32 posted on 06/22/2010 7:28:44 AM PDT by llmc1
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To: i88schwartz

Wheels within wheels, is Omama going to fire Gen. McChrystal in order to later say we lost Afghanistan because the military leaders were disloyal to his administration and monkey wrenched victory?

Save our country by voting in real conservatives who have ethics and backbones in 11/2010 & 11/2012.


33 posted on 06/22/2010 7:29:26 AM PDT by RicocheT
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To: i88schwartz
Why don't you roll over and play dead Mitchell..you old hag you don't know what you are talking about..Just another King Obama fool..NBC has got to go, along with its Dinosaurs..Below a picture of the Muslim smoking pot..
34 posted on 06/22/2010 7:29:35 AM PDT by PLD (be)
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To: Bosco

If he gets relieved of duty, that means he will be available for service in the 2nd Continental Army. ............................. I want to join, I may be another John Burns of Gettysburg fame, and like him, I can still shoot straight.


35 posted on 06/22/2010 7:30:02 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (THE CANDIDATE THE LEFT SMEARS THE MOST IS THE ONE THEY FEAR THE MOST.)
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To: clee1
Whether right or wrong, the fact that Mitchell, an Obama spokesperson, is saying this tells me he will be out shortly.
36 posted on 06/22/2010 7:30:13 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: MBB1984
NBC's Andrea Mitchell Bosses: McChrystal Andrea Mitchell Was Insubordinate Incompetent And Should Be "Canned" ..... (there, fixed it).
37 posted on 06/22/2010 7:31:25 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: shalom aleichem
NBC’s Andrea Mitchell is correct. Public opinion may be with Gen. McChrystal but history and the Constitution is not. Lincoln was correct when he fired McClellan even though McClellan and most of the general public did not think so. History proved Lincoln correct.
When Truman fired MacArthur most of the general public and especially General MacArthur disagreed, but Truman was right. I am not sure if Truman or MacArthur was right in the way to wage the Korean war, but Truman was Constitutionally right. Now regardless what we think about TheGreatIAm and McChrystal, It is proper for TheGreatIAm to say Adios to McChrystal.
38 posted on 06/22/2010 7:31:48 AM PDT by Tupelo
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To: i88schwartz

Andrea’s just pissed that Mika is getting all the attention for being a paid White House mouthpiece.


39 posted on 06/22/2010 7:31:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: i88schwartz

Bring McChrystal home and bring the troops with him.

General Petraeus said there was only double digits of al Queda there. So what we have is mission creep involving ourselves in a local power struggle. This isn’t a cause for our troops to die - no matter who wins, we lose.


40 posted on 06/22/2010 7:31:59 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: FlingWingFlyer

My dh commented recently that alot of the casualities are Army, not Marine. He said it indicates that the troops are not on the move, just sitting still as targets. McCrystal may have expressed his frustration privately with no response from Obama and the other politicians.


41 posted on 06/22/2010 7:32:04 AM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: Rational Thought

If 80% of the military agrees with McXtal then he needs to fire them also and find some new recruits.
My only question is..who invented the current ROE? McXtal or the WH?


42 posted on 06/22/2010 7:32:22 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: shalom aleichem
Anyone who criticized Dubya was a media darling.

And if they were active military, American Heros.

43 posted on 06/22/2010 7:32:31 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Alter Kaker

A soldier takes an oath to the Constitution not to the President. That being said, you are correct, if he’s got a problem with order, resign and take your gripes to the press and public.

McChrystal can do a lot more damage out of the military then he can in. A bunch of interviews and a good book will go a long way to take care of Zero.


44 posted on 06/22/2010 7:33:10 AM PDT by Recon Dad ( Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things)
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To: Recon Dad
The oath is not only to the Constitution, it is to obey the lawful orders of the officers assigned over you and the POTUS.

So the oath is in fact an oath of duty to the office of the Presidency, insofar as the individual serving that role is fulfilling his Constitutional duty and issuing lawful orders.

45 posted on 06/22/2010 7:36:57 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: RJS1950

“Both were meglomaniacs who had Caesar complexes.”

You are absolutely correct. Except, McCelland would not fight.


46 posted on 06/22/2010 7:37:51 AM PDT by Tupelo
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To: i88schwartz; All
Lib Talking Pets
47 posted on 06/22/2010 7:38:25 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Alter Kaker
This isn’t partisan — this is about chain of command.

Unfortunately, you are correct, but I have never seen the disdain for any president by the troops as I have since zero was elected.

48 posted on 06/22/2010 7:40:23 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: i88schwartz

What would this witch know about being insubordinate? /sarc


49 posted on 06/22/2010 7:40:23 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: i88schwartz

Oh, great. Like I really want a biased media news reader setting combat policy for my Marine son in Afghanistan.

Being televised does NOT impart any special knowledge or wisdom. Maybe this is why we have to endure so much of Obama on TV? If we hear enough, we’ll actually think he’s smart? Maybe he needs to adopt a cultured, British accent...


50 posted on 06/22/2010 7:40:28 AM PDT by Tigerized (pursuingliberty.com)
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