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Bill would expose high-speed train contractors with Holocaust ties
San Mateo County Times ^ | 06/22/2010 | Mike Rosenberg

Posted on 06/22/2010 9:00:03 PM PDT by Willie Green

Train companies and foreign governments that helped support the Holocaust could be barred from working on the California high-speed railroad under a new bill in the Legislature.

The legislation would not exempt governments or companies such as France's bullet-train operator, whose locomotives once transported prisoners to concentration camps, from bidding for a piece of the state's $43 billion project starting next year.

But it would allow the California High-Speed Rail Authority to disqualify any of those companies or governments based solely on their ties to World War II atrocities, specifically from 1942 to 1944.

If contractors fail to provide evidence they played a role in the Holocaust — and officials later find they did — they would face stiff penalties. The contractors would not be able to bid on any state projects for three years and face a fine equal to double the cost of their initial bid, or $250,000, whichever is larger. They could also be sued by the firms that came in second or third in the bidding.

Firms should begin bidding on the project next year, with virtually all the $43 billion in construction costs up for grabs among private companies, plus nations with high-speed rail experience, such as China, Japan, Germany, France and Spain. Construction on the San Francisco-to-Los Angeles line, including the section that will run along Caltrain tracks, would begin as early as fall 2012.

The high-speed Advertisement rail project is a hot topic in the Bay Area, which has the third-largest Jewish population of any metropolitan area in the country, according to the Jewish Community Federation. But it was high-speed rail supporter and Assemblyman Bob Blumenfield, D-Los Angeles, who on Friday introduced AB 619, the "Holocaust Survivor Responsibility Act."

"When I think about what (Holocaust survivors) went through, they basically escaped death, some of them literally jumped off the train, their entire families were killed," said Blumenfield, who is Jewish.

"That history could chase them across time and country, and there could be a train made by the very same company (that took them to the camps) less than a few miles from their house," he said. "If that company hasn't made amends by then, that to me is unconscionable."

Although not named in the bill, Blumenfield makes note of one company in particular: SNCF. Otherwise known as the French National Railway Corporation, SNCF now operates most of France's rail system, including the TGV high-speed trains. Blumenfield claims they profited off transporting prisoners from France to concentration camps in Auschwitz, Buchenwald and elsewhere, and have not made proper reparations.

Attempts to reach SNCF representatives Monday were unsuccessful.

California has about 30 Holocaust survivors, and most are at least 90 years old, according to Blumenfield's office.

The bill heads to its first hearing June 29 before the Assembly Transportation Committee. The rail authority said Monday it has not yet taken a position on the bill.


TOPICS: Israel; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab619; california; callegislation; highspeedrail; holocaust; israel; prop1a

1 posted on 06/22/2010 9:00:05 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

What fresh hell is this?


2 posted on 06/22/2010 9:02:19 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Willie Green

Stupid all around. Light rail=failure in the works. I guess it’s eternal inherited guilt.


3 posted on 06/22/2010 9:03:34 PM PDT by ChiMark
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To: Willie Green
Train companies and foreign governments that helped support the Holocaust could be barred from working on the California high-speed railroad under a new bill in the Legislature

Wouldn't that be the whole dem party?

4 posted on 06/22/2010 9:04:09 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: Willie Green

Three cheers for pointless feel-good bureaucratic red tape.


5 posted on 06/22/2010 9:06:43 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: ChiMark

Why not pick a Chinese or Japanese company? After all, their hands are clean/sarcasm


6 posted on 06/22/2010 9:07:18 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Willie Green

I still would like to see high speed rail in India...cars packed inside, 900 people on the roofs and hanging off the sides, while traveling at 100+ mph.


7 posted on 06/22/2010 9:08:17 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, you know chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: dr_lew

This is pretty much the official announcement that California is not interested in the best design for whatever rail it chooses.


8 posted on 06/22/2010 9:09:04 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Willie Green

As if this idiot pol boycotts all companies that were involved in WW2 Germany in any way...

For example, Bayer (which for a while was part of IG Farben, maker of Zyklon B). Does the pol boycott all of these Bayer products? He never took an aspirin?

http://www.bayer.com/en/Products-from-A-to-Z.aspx

How about boycotting companies that worked for Stalin?


9 posted on 06/22/2010 9:10:56 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but will give us the shaft.)
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To: Willie Green

But the financing from banks that made money from slavery is OK ? Good luck finding a bank that didn’t.

Idiots.


10 posted on 06/22/2010 9:11:13 PM PDT by mainsail that
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To: Willie Green

And what about US rail companies who had less than perfect relations with US Indians?

Or US Indian tribes who had less than perfect relations with each other?

Or the Japanese, Chinese, Indians, Pakistanis, Cambodians, Russians, Elbonians, the possibilities for paralyzing political correctness is endless!

Maybe there is a Canadian company trying to bid. I can’t think of too many Canadian atrocities (but I bet other FReepers will!)


11 posted on 06/22/2010 9:12:01 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: LibFreeOrDie
How about boycotting companies that worked for Stalin?

Boycott Hollywood? No Sunday New York Times Magazine Section? Mon Dieu!

12 posted on 06/22/2010 9:15:01 PM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: Willie Green
Train companies and foreign governments that helped support the Holocaust could be barred from working on the California high-speed railroad

Well, the whole industrialized world traded with Germany before the war, the USA in particular. So we need aliens (of extraterrestrial type, not of Mexican one) to do it, since nobody on this planet qualifies for the job - even though the crime in question happened 65+ years ago, with hardly any participants of it still living.

Another option, of course, is to ask for help from non-industrialized countries, those that haven't known about World War II because they had no radio or newspapers. Perhaps a few of those could be found somewhere in Africa. They, politically, will be excellent candidates. On the other hand, if you want the trains to actually run you might need help of Germany ... which doesn't qualify.

However in a sane world California would simply say that it's unfair to punish grandchildren of people who were involved in war crimes. It's not like modern companies, governments and young people have anything to do with those events.

13 posted on 06/22/2010 9:17:01 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: DBrow

Hell, i am ok if they just ban all companies from bidding on a public rail system...HeHe...


14 posted on 06/22/2010 9:17:04 PM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Bet he gets the New York Times.


15 posted on 06/22/2010 9:19:30 PM PDT by Hexenhammer (sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Magnum44

He he indeed! Imagine a proposal for a private rail line, that pays its way through ticket sales rather than tax confiscation!

There could be a conservative edge to this after all!


16 posted on 06/22/2010 9:20:33 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: dr_lew

It is one way the US can keep out foreign vendors. Problem is Germany and France can return the favor in the future by stipulating no American company that had a history for being involved in the slave trade and the near genocide of the American Indians can bid in their projects.


17 posted on 06/22/2010 9:26:30 PM PDT by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: Willie Green

Because it’s great to retaliate against companies that 60 years ago may have done something in another country that we now find bad. After all, now that 4 generations of management and stockholders have come and gone, it’s best to start a trade war...


18 posted on 06/22/2010 9:41:25 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: DBrow
I can’t think of too many Canadian atrocities (but I bet other FReepers will!)

A Canadian moose bit my sister...

19 posted on 06/22/2010 9:41:59 PM PDT by spokeshave (From The One to zero in just 16 months – the myth has ended.)
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To: Deaf Smith
I still would like to see high speed rail in India...cars packed inside, 900 people on the roofs and hanging off the sides, while traveling at 100+ mph.

Shoot, 10 Indians already die everyday on Mumbai's railways!
20 posted on 06/22/2010 9:42:22 PM PDT by ATX 1985 (Time is Breath, Breath is Light, Light is Life)
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To: Willie Green
Short high speed rail lines make as much sense as driving two blocks at 100 mph. The time difference is most significant over long distances.

It works the same with speeding. It isn't worth the time loss driving 10mph over the limit in town if you get a ticket, but if you are going 1000 miles, you can get there two hours sooner...not that that is always a good idea.

21 posted on 06/22/2010 9:47:38 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Willie Green

***Train companies and foreign governments that helped support the Holocaust could be barred from working on the California high-speed railroad under a new bill in the Legislature. ***

Good God Amighty! Next they will be looking for ties to the days of slavery! Oh wait!


22 posted on 06/22/2010 10:07:34 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Viva los SB 1070)
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To: Willie Green

High speed rail and Muslims don’t mix. No thank you.


23 posted on 06/22/2010 10:14:00 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: DBrow
Blame Canada!


24 posted on 06/22/2010 10:19:05 PM PDT by BBell
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To: Willie Green

I would rather see High Speed Stage Coach services. This is something that needs Billions spent on cause you build it and they will come.

Pray for America


25 posted on 06/22/2010 10:20:27 PM PDT by bray (Did Rush say Complete Failure?)
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To: Willie Green

I am genuinely surprised that California is home to only 30 Holocaust survivors. There are more than that in a 10 block radius of where I am sitting right now in Melbourne, Australia.


26 posted on 06/22/2010 10:41:27 PM PDT by beagleone
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To: bray
I would rather see High Speed Stage Coach services. This is something that needs Billions spent on cause you build it and they will come.


A few more horses to go faster? :^)

28 posted on 06/22/2010 11:13:48 PM PDT by az_gila (AZ - one Governor down... we don't want her back...)
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A rather stupid idea, even for California.

29 posted on 06/23/2010 5:01:57 AM PDT by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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To: spokeshave

That was on Youtube. The moose clearly was provoked. She was doing something with a stick or some sticklike object (toothbrush?) and was poking at the moose.


30 posted on 06/23/2010 6:25:07 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Willie Green; SJackson

It’s been 65 years. No one running these companies for years were involved. I care much more about European companies aiding the Iranians.


31 posted on 06/23/2010 9:00:41 AM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just a liberals who lies.)
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To: DBrow
Actually, the Canadian Army handed over German deserters back to the Nazis to be executed after the War was over

>Big> ;^)

32 posted on 06/23/2010 9:09:32 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating Heart)
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To: Cincinna; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
Thanks Willie Green. Hey, I was as surprised as anyone.
Train companies and foreign governments that helped support the Holocaust could be barred from working on the California high-speed railroad under a new bill in the Legislature... it was high-speed rail supporter and Assemblyman Bob Blumenfield, D-Los Angeles, who on Friday introduced AB 619, the "Holocaust Survivor Responsibility Act." ...Although not named in the bill, Blumenfield makes note of one company in particular: SNCF. Otherwise known as the French National Railway Corporation, SNCF now operates most of France's rail system, including the TGV high-speed trains. Blumenfield claims they profited off transporting prisoners from France to concentration camps in Auschwitz, Buchenwald and elsewhere, and have not made proper reparations.

33 posted on 06/24/2010 3:00:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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