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EARTH OBSERVATION Satellite images suggest La Nina formation
Space Daily ^ | Jun 22, 2010 | Staff Writers Pasadena, Calif. (UPI)

Posted on 06/23/2010 1:17:55 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

NASA says new images from its Jason-2 oceanography satellite shows the tropical Pacific has switched from El Nino warm conditions to La Nina cool conditions.

"The central equatorial Pacific Ocean could stay colder than normal into summer and beyond," said oceanographer and climatologist Bill Patzert at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. "That's because sea level is already about 4 inches below normal, creating a significant deficit of the heat stored in the upper ocean. The next few months will reveal if the current cooling trend will eventually evolve into a long-lasting La Nina situation."

Patzert said a La Nina is essentially the opposite of an El Nino and is associated with less atmospheric moisture, resulting in less rain along the coasts of North and South America. La Ninas also tend to increase the number of tropical storms in the Atlantic.

"For the American Southwest, La Ninas usually bring a dry winter, not good news for a region that has experienced normal rain and snowpack only once in the past five winters," Patzert said.

More information on El Nino, La Nina and Jason-2 is available at http://sealevel.jpl.nasa.gov.



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; climatechange; elnino; globalwarminghoax; lanina; oceantemps; pacific
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1 posted on 06/23/2010 1:17:57 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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H/T to poster at the Oil Drum....not sure what impact this has on GOM weather...hurricanes.


2 posted on 06/23/2010 1:19:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

OMG, the oceans are receding. We are not worthy...we are not worthy!/s


3 posted on 06/23/2010 1:20:30 PM PDT by downtownconservative
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

As an Oregonian who hates hot weather, I say WOOT!


4 posted on 06/23/2010 1:20:38 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: downtownconservative

I thought the oceans were rising by 0.049mm per year and it has dropped by 4 inches recently?


5 posted on 06/23/2010 1:21:57 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
sea level is already about 4 inches below normal... OBAMA DID IT!

6 posted on 06/23/2010 1:22:35 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“That’s because sea level is already about 4 inches below normal,”

Huh? Calling Al Gore and all the global warming alarmists. Does this mean the ice pack is growing around the world. Where has the 4 inches of sea level gone?


7 posted on 06/23/2010 1:25:01 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"H/T to poster at the Oil Drum....not sure what impact this has on GOM weather...hurricanes."

Less wind shear in the upper atmosphere over the Caribbean out across the Atlantic to Africa. Less wind shear means hurricanes can form more easily and not be destroyed by opposing upper atmosphere winds.

8 posted on 06/23/2010 1:25:08 PM PDT by avacado
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To: evets
LOL...We had a thread on the Glacier in Antarctica possibly melting raising the sea level...guess this is the equalizer.
9 posted on 06/23/2010 1:27:27 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Such a big ocean, so many contradictory factoids.

Between La Ninya and the disappearance of sun-spots, it’s looking real bad for the “warmists”. When will the real ridicule commence??


10 posted on 06/23/2010 1:28:48 PM PDT by downtownconservative
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To: El Sordo
As a Texan who hates it too I say bring on the cooling . . . pleeeease.
11 posted on 06/23/2010 1:30:49 PM PDT by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: All; Sub-Driver; BOBTHENAILER; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; onyx; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; ...
The insanity continues....From JoNova:

Save the world — whitewash the Andes

The World Bank has awarded a Peruvian inventor $200,000 to paint rocks white. They hope if they make them the right colour the glacier will come back…

12 posted on 06/23/2010 1:31:43 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The current El Nino has brought extended wet, cool weather to Idaho in the May->June time frame. The water is welcome, but there isn't enough heat to grow the crops. A shift to La Nina makes the winters wetter and colder. It would be nice to have a normal summer again.
13 posted on 06/23/2010 1:32:33 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Does this mean we will have an early fall and lots of snow this winter cause I can’t take these 100 degree temps much longer!!!


14 posted on 06/23/2010 1:32:55 PM PDT by 4everontheRight ("America is good. And if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Tocquevill)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"That's because sea level is already about 4 inches below normal, creating a significant deficit of the heat stored in the upper ocean. "

Uh-Roh !!

15 posted on 06/23/2010 1:33:14 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Jack Hydrazine
"I thought the oceans were rising by 0.049mm per year and it has dropped by 4 inches recently? "

That's the way it works, the higher it rises, the further it drops!

16 posted on 06/23/2010 1:33:56 PM PDT by An Old Man
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To: avacado

There have been some thoughts that a good hurricane would clean up some of the oil spill in the marshes...


17 posted on 06/23/2010 1:34:05 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Parley Baer
Where has the 4 inches of sea level gone?

To the hundreds of water stations along the border! The lower the ocean, the more concentrated the oil spills are and more damage is caused. Bring on global warming!

18 posted on 06/23/2010 1:34:50 PM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

19 posted on 06/23/2010 1:35:26 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Horusra; Thunder90; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; Entrepreneur; Darnright; Nipfan; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

20 posted on 06/23/2010 1:36:40 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (America should take a mulligan on the 2008 presidential election.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

O, God Thy Sea Is So Great And My Boat Is So Small

- Prayer of the Breton fisherman


21 posted on 06/23/2010 1:37:33 PM PDT by jessduntno ( 'Joe Biden?' suggests a top adviser. 'Did you say "Bite Me?")
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To: NautiNurse

Seen this?


22 posted on 06/23/2010 1:38:11 PM PDT by Ingtar (If he could have taxed it, Obama's hole would have been plugged by now.)
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To: TexasCajun

Looks like that right most track might impact the armada over the oil spill area....


23 posted on 06/23/2010 1:40:09 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Myrddin
You might find this from JoNova of interest:

The deep oceans drive the atmosphere

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The importance of the ocean conveyor belt

Also:


24 posted on 06/23/2010 1:46:05 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: El Sordo

“As an Oregonian who hates hot weather, I say WOOT!”

I’d like it just a LITTLE warmer, please. 10 to 15 degrees below normal is...well...it’s just not summer!


25 posted on 06/23/2010 1:46:16 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Myrddin

Oh, boy. Everyone here still remembers the winter before last. I picked up on that La Nina forecast last week. Better get the hay in early. And reconcile myself to having to shovel off the stable roof.

The good news is that it keeps the riffraff out.


26 posted on 06/23/2010 1:47:14 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: TexasCajun

Their is a 70% chance this won’t develop. Keep you fingers crossed.


27 posted on 06/23/2010 1:48:47 PM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

28 posted on 06/23/2010 1:51:03 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Global Average Sea Surface Temperatures Continue their Plunge

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2010/06/global-average-sea-surface-temperatures-continue-their-plunge/


29 posted on 06/23/2010 1:52:17 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Myrddin

107 index here


30 posted on 06/23/2010 1:53:35 PM PDT by navysealdad (http://drdavehouseoffun.com/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Something to keep an eye on.


31 posted on 06/23/2010 1:58:14 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Noumenon
I moved to Pocatello in Dec 2000. Locals tell me the winters have been pretty mild compared to what they recall in the past. There is a story in the Chubbuck city history of a 3 week snow storm that buried 18-wheel trucks near the intersection of Yellowstone Ave & Chubbuck Rd. I was amused to see my neighbor's car turned into a "bump" in the driveway under 6 feet of snow one year.

Getting the hay early is probably a good idea. I hope you have enough heat units to grow as much as you need in time. The local ag reports are not very positive on that account.

I just have a driveway, sidewalk and front step to shovel. Nowhere near what my neighbors face. They NEED gas powered snow blowers.

32 posted on 06/23/2010 2:15:28 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Ruh Roh...

Not again...


33 posted on 06/23/2010 2:16:06 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Interesting pattern. What happens when you mix it with lots of oil?
34 posted on 06/23/2010 2:16:58 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: TexasCajun
You might find the video interesting...ignore or bypass Olberman....Link was posted on the oil Drum...shows the armada out there in the Gulf:

Armada of vessels over the Wild Well

Can skip olberman by going to 1:40

Also will see the rigs drilling the Relief wells.

35 posted on 06/23/2010 2:22:02 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’ll bump those graphs. Very illustrative.


36 posted on 06/23/2010 2:22:28 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (/)
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To: StAnDeliver

bttt


37 posted on 06/23/2010 2:23:06 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: downtownconservative
When will the real ridicule commence??

Probably now, directed at anyone who spells "La Ninya" like that.

38 posted on 06/23/2010 2:23:06 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: Myrddin

We should be OK. We don’t grow our own, but we’ve contracted for 10 tons at a decent price. For our place, we need and use a tractor. When it got really bad last 07-08, we had to call in a guy with a five-yard loader a few times just to make places to shove more snow.

Shoveled three feet off the barn/stable roof that season.


39 posted on 06/23/2010 2:24:11 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Myrddin
Man the FreeRepublic Computing system has slowed down again...

RE: your question....

Uh this experiment has never been done before so we don't know what the Hurrican would do for the oil Spill....but we may find out.

40 posted on 06/23/2010 2:25:56 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This would fall right in line with the possible record hurricane season predicted for the Atlantic.


41 posted on 06/23/2010 2:27:55 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; Myrddin; navysealdad; Noumenon; TexasCajun
More from your link:

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The rate at which the Nino34 SSTs are falling is particularly striking, as seen in this plot of the SST change rate for that region:

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I'll bet Spencer has something up on Watt's Up With That....

Will link if I post anything....Implications of what an El Nina would mean likely will get heavy discussion there.

42 posted on 06/23/2010 2:34:32 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Huge effort not getting the credit they deserve.

Those relief wells are ahead of schedule, that is good news.

43 posted on 06/23/2010 2:37:48 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

OK, NASA is going to need to get their story straight. Are the oceans rising due to glacier melting or not?


44 posted on 06/23/2010 2:43:51 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Jack Hydrazine
I'll just post a link...system is too slow to start a thread...

Spencer: SST’s headed down – fast

45 posted on 06/23/2010 2:44:00 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: CodeToad
I would guess Hansen's group is at work right now ...figuring out what they should say in their spinning of events...
46 posted on 06/23/2010 3:03:07 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"That's because sea level is already about 4 inches below normal, creating a significant deficit of the heat stored in the upper ocean.

Color me skeptical. Where all the watah at???

Is it hiding in the melting glaciers? Or are the glaciers re-freezing?

Or is the missing water hanging in the atmosphere, unable to condense or crystalize, due to lack of funding?

Or is this just another chapter in the ongoing climate change fraud?

47 posted on 06/23/2010 3:03:38 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: humblegunner

There was no other choice. How do you get an “enye” in HTML???? El Nino just doesn’t look right either.


48 posted on 06/23/2010 3:04:03 PM PDT by downtownconservative
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Another link from the comments to the Spencer article at WUWT:

El Nino and the solar cycle

49 posted on 06/23/2010 3:06:06 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’ll bet a Dollar (US) that the guy is using white lead paint.


50 posted on 06/23/2010 3:16:03 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, you know chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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