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Don't stop with McChrystal
NY Post ^ | June 24, 2010 | Editorial

Posted on 06/24/2010 3:01:48 AM PDT by Scanian

President Obama yesterday fired Gen. Stanley McChrystal as the top US commander in Afghanistan, replac ing him with Gen. David Petraeus.

Obama, as commander-in-chief, had the right both in law and in custom to do so -- and, given McChrystal's injudicious remarks to a Rolling Stone reporter, it's no surprise that he did just that.

We wish the president had retained McChrystal -- a brilliant field commander who is highly regarded by many political leaders in the region.

At the same time, Obama did well in selecting Petraeus to assume battlefield leadership in Afghanistan.

Time and again, Petraeus has proved his effectiveness -- most particularly with the successful implementation of the 2007 troop surge that turned the tide of the war in Iraq.

Yet success in Afghanistan will require every bit of Petraeus' proven military, diplomatic and political skills.

We wish him the very best.

But we're skeptical.

For one thing, in removing McChrystal, Obama didn't go nearly far enough.

Let's be clear: The general may have spoken rashly, but the resentment expressed in Rolling Stone toward a trio of civilian colleagues was not misplaced.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; biden; eikenberry; firings; holbrooke; incompetence; jamesjones; jones; petraeus

1 posted on 06/24/2010 3:01:50 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

The whole lot of them should go, starting with Obama.


2 posted on 06/24/2010 3:05:55 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Scanian
Pres_ _ent Obama fired Gen. Stanley McChrystal
and by not replacing him, demanded McChrystall's boss
work even harder.
A brilliant antiAmerican stroke twice hurting the military.
Meanwhile, the MSM plays it as something else
(traitors that they are).
3 posted on 06/24/2010 3:10:29 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: Scanian
"Richard Holbrooke, Obama's special envoy in Afghanistan and Pakistan; Karl Eikenberry, the US ambassador in Kabul, and National Security Adviser James Jones must go, too. "

James Jones is an Anti-Israeli SOB, Holbrooke is incompetent and Eikenberry is a a cowardly fool.

The other slug who has to go is George Mitchell before he screws up the middle east.

4 posted on 06/24/2010 3:16:44 AM PDT by wmileo
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To: Scanian
"if the administration is to have any hope of achieving victory in Afghanistan, more housecleaning is in order: Richard Holbrooke, Obama's special envoy in Afghanistan and Pakistan; Karl Eikenberry, the US ambassador in Kabul, and National Security Adviser James Jones must go, too."

This is spot on. Holbrooke, Eikenberry, and Jones have undermined McChrystal's efforts and stabbed him in the back throughout his effort in Afghanistan. When McChrystal asked for an additional 30,000-40,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan, he only got half.

McChrystal was sly like a fox to allow that article to hit Rolling Stone Magazine. He knew it would go directly into the heart of the Left and explode his frustration and disgust at the inept support he has received from the Obama Regime. McChrystal, the brave warrior that he is, was willing to take the consequences. He was willing to take it for the sake of his men and his country. The method he used was deliberate like a well placed charge in the heart of the enemy. The words in Rolling Stone Magazine had more effect than if he went to the State Run Media. They were designed to set even the Left against the Obamameister.

5 posted on 06/24/2010 3:28:58 AM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: jonrick46

Another Freeper said that Patreaus is Against Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, and is for OPEN GAYS in the Military....could this be TRUE??????


6 posted on 06/24/2010 3:43:03 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion...the Human Scarifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: wmileo
James Jones is an Anti-Israeli SOB, Holbrooke is incompetent and Eikenberry is a a cowardly fool.

Sounds like perfect choices for 0's administration.

7 posted on 06/24/2010 3:53:06 AM PDT by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: jonrick46
McChrystal was sly like a fox to allow that article to hit Rolling Stone Magazine. He knew it would go directly into the heart of the Left and explode his frustration and disgust at the inept support he has received from the Obama Regime.

The method he used was deliberate like a well placed charge in the heart of the enemy. The words in Rolling Stone Magazine had more effect than if he went to the State Run Media. They were designed to set even the Left against the Obamameister.

This is essentially what I told my son when he called and asked for my take on the events, and I went on to add that it won't make a damned bit of difference as far as the Democrats/Progressives/Communists/Caliphate-ophiles snatching defeat from the jaws of stalemate. McChrystal may be gone, but I suspect Petraeus is now in placeholder mode and little improvement will be had from him.

The lad is about to go to Afghanistan again, but this time he will not only be directly affected by the malevolent anti-Americans entrenched within congress, he will have the added burden of a CinC who instinctively doesn't like "typical soldiers."

8 posted on 06/24/2010 3:55:38 AM PDT by niteowl77 (I don't mind them stewing in their own juices, but I do object to me stewing in their own juices.)
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To: jonrick46
McChrystal was sly like a fox to allow that article to hit Rolling Stone Magazine . . . . He was willing to take it for the sake of his men and his country.

I have come to that point also.

I believe he knew that the comments that reached Rolling Stone would be such a poke to 0's ego that the NIC would HAVE to replace him.

And in replacing him, 0 would be forced into a position where he would have to support the commander he chose, or look like a twice-baked fool.

If the same problem keeps coming up even through multiple commanders, it begins to become obvious that it isn't the commanders who are the problem.

If 0 doesn't make it work with Patraeus, the blame will come squarely back to him.

At the same time, more support will alienate his left and younger supporters even more, eroding part of his base before the mid-terms.

It isn't quite on the level of sacrifice that Kopechne made, but he still took one for the team.

9 posted on 06/24/2010 4:01:04 AM PDT by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: Scanian

From what I’ve read, the only quote attributed to McChrystal is “Joe who? ...Joe Bite-Me?”.


10 posted on 06/24/2010 4:15:58 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Quiller

I believe that McChrystal has thoroughly informed Gen. David Petraeus about his difficulties with the Obama Regime. I am sure Petraeus is well armed with a strategy to deal with it. And I am sure there is little affection for the CiC who during his campaign against McCaine, said nothing against Move On’s nasty GENERAL BETRAY US ad against Petraeus during his testimony about the surge in Iraq.


11 posted on 06/24/2010 4:18:04 AM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: Quiller

Correction: McCaine = McCain


12 posted on 06/24/2010 4:21:19 AM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: jonrick46

mac voted for obama... he was thrown under the bus just like granny obama was... and everyone else that gets in the kenyan’s way.

LLS


13 posted on 06/24/2010 4:21:48 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: Ann Archy
It would not surprise me and he probably voted for hussein also. The more I hear about the leadership today... the more I hear the term “Corporate Generals” as compared to what America has always won wars with... “Warrior Generals”. I have been told that up to 70% of the Officer Corps now supports the NWO thing and most likely voted for the zero gain marxist.

LLS

14 posted on 06/24/2010 4:24:18 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

70% of WHICH ‘officer corps’? Not where I work. But it is undeniable that the current crop of Generals/Admirals were groomed in the Clinton years, which says something.


15 posted on 06/24/2010 4:31:06 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: Scanian

The weakest link in this chain of command is the one at the top.


16 posted on 06/24/2010 4:34:06 AM PDT by Recon Dad ( Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things)
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To: tgusa

I am just repeating what more than one Officer has told me.

LLS


17 posted on 06/24/2010 4:34:17 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: tgusa
I think it's possible that of those who are now having “buyers remorse” for voting Obama, many are now even denying ever voting for him.

I have personally seen a few.

18 posted on 06/24/2010 4:38:06 AM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

That is truly scary. I see a lot of 0 stickers on base here but few on officers’ cars. From now until November 2, or maybe until the next Congress convenes, will do much to define what kind of America we’re going to become.


19 posted on 06/24/2010 4:45:32 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: airborne

I know a few also, although they now own up to their mistake. The take-away for the rest of us is to POUND AWAY on our message, be utterly relentless in confronting the outrageous lies of the left, and above all to call a liar a LIAR, to their face if possible. No more ‘nice guy’. Be ready to confront thuggery, too, because it’s coming.


20 posted on 06/24/2010 4:50:10 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: Scanian
” Didn't the president declare yesterday that “this mission demands unity of effort . . . across my national-security team”?

Yes, he did — correctly so (and never mind the odd personalization of national security).”

It's not so “Odd” with Obama, he is so egocentric that he cannot bring himself to use the word “Our”. The sooner this guy is out of office, the better off our Country will be. He makes Jimmy Carter look like Winston Churchill.

21 posted on 06/24/2010 4:54:28 AM PDT by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: TexasCajun

I printed out and read the whole article yesterday. You are correct. Actually, only “joe who” is his. Bite me was an aide. It’s bizarre. He didn’t hardly say anything. His staff said a lot though.


22 posted on 06/24/2010 5:50:24 AM PDT by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the minority? A: They're complaining about the deficit.)
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To: Huck
Thanks for the confirmation.

I'm surprised Obamah just didn't pull a Hugo Chavez and seize Rolling Stone.

23 posted on 06/24/2010 7:01:20 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Huck
Thanks for the confirmation.

I'm surprised Obamah just didn't pull a Hugo Chavez and seize Rolling Stone.

24 posted on 06/24/2010 7:02:18 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: jonrick46
McChrystal, the brave warrior that he is, was willing to take the consequences. He was willing to take it for the sake of his men and his country. The method he used was deliberate like a well placed charge in the heart of the enemy.

This Warrior decided to get drunk with his staff and a liberal reporter,then wait for the fall out? I don't think that's the case. He got cocky and then he got burned.

If he really wanted make maximum impact, he would have resigned and then spoken out.

25 posted on 06/24/2010 7:26:47 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (Bush: Mission Accomplished. Obama: Commission Accomplished.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
I have been told that up to 70% of the Officer Corps now supports the NWO thing and most likely voted for the zero gain marxist.

Negative. I recently retired, but was stationed at the Pentagon from 2006-2009. Your source is WAY off.

26 posted on 06/24/2010 7:29:50 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (Bush: Mission Accomplished. Obama: Commission Accomplished.)
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To: Fundamentally Fair

I pray that you are correct... but if you are not correct... we are finished.

LLS


27 posted on 06/24/2010 9:34:54 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
...but if you are not correct...

On this, I am correct. ;)

28 posted on 06/24/2010 9:37:19 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (Bush: Mission Accomplished. Obama: Commission Accomplished.)
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To: Fundamentally Fair
"If he really wanted make maximum impact, he would have resigned and then spoken out."

I at first thought your words were the best course. Then I thought how difficult it is to get your ideas out to the State Owned Media, and it gave me this insight into just how crafty McChrystal was in using Rolling Stone Magazine. Sure he was cocky. I am just enjoying the popcorn watching this soap oprah play out. I think McChrystal would do better with a beer summit.

29 posted on 06/24/2010 5:48:32 PM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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