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Steinem criticizes Palin for using feminist brand
LA TImes ^ | 6/23/10 | Michael Muskal

Posted on 06/24/2010 4:32:06 AM PDT by reaganrevolutionin2010

Gloria Steinem, an icon of the women’s movement, has criticized Sarah Palin for trying to brand herself as a feminist.

In an interview with @katiecouric, Steinem argued that a woman who chooses not to have an abortion can call herself a feminist, but “you can't be a feminist who says other women can't have an abortion."

To be sure, Palin’s role as a feminist has been an issue ever since she made history by becoming the first woman to run on the Republican national ticket. Unlike the Democratic side of feminism, however, Palin is a conservative and opposes many of the issues such as abortion and gender rights that fueled the women’s movement.

Palin, who is strongly anti-abortion, reignited the debate over who could call themselves a feminist and what that means in a May 14 speech for the Susan B. Anthony List, a PAC for antiabortion female congressional candidates.

Using grizzly bears as a metaphor, Palin seemed to imply that feminism need not apply only apply to liberal supporters of abortion rights. Conservative PTA moms can be empowered in their positions as well and can call themselves feminists, she argued.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortions; feminazi; feminaziagenda; feminazism; gloriasteinman; moralabsolutes; overthehillfeminazi; prolife; steinem; steinman
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Gloria...honey, sweetie, baby... it's over.

Go crawl back under your rock.

There's a new sheriff in town, and her name is Sarah.


1 posted on 06/24/2010 4:32:07 AM PDT by reaganrevolutionin2010
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

Isn’t it funny that this old fool thinks it’s up to HER who is a fem and who isn’t.....

welcome to a new world order......(couldn’t resist)


2 posted on 06/24/2010 4:34:49 AM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010
gloria... your vagina atrophied and you are no longer in the “club” sweetie.

LLS

3 posted on 06/24/2010 4:35:21 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

This dumb hag married a German gigolo who used her to get US citizenship.

She should talk about feminism.

Time to crawl back under your rock tramp.


4 posted on 06/24/2010 4:39:02 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

The feminist cause was a loser. Still is because it is defined by these leftie woman this way

acceptance of killing one’s offspring

lesbianism

Palin should disavow the failed Women’s Lib movement as limited and confined to only certain women.

maybe Empowering Women Movement


5 posted on 06/24/2010 4:41:12 AM PDT by dforest
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

Sad. Very sad.

Steinem was an attractive and reasonably intelligent young woman back in the day. Unfortunately, like many women her generation, she used “feminism” as a response against her own personal and emotional problems, and chaotic family history. As a result, what you see is a woman in her 70s who still thinks, talks and sounds like a hurt 13 year old girl.


6 posted on 06/24/2010 4:41:41 AM PDT by friendly_doc
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010
Steinem argued that a woman who chooses not to have an abortion can call herself a feminist, but “you can't be a feminist who says other women can't have an abortion."

How very 1970's. Here is the new formulation:

A woman who says other women can have an abortion can call herself a feminist, but you can't be a feminist who says that other women who say that women can't have an abortion can't be feminists.

C'mon, Gloria, let's reintegrate, deconstruct, etc. We have all day!
7 posted on 06/24/2010 4:43:57 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

HAHAHAHHAHA!! That was great, RR2010!


8 posted on 06/24/2010 4:44:08 AM PDT by misharu (US Congress = children without adult supervision.)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010
Why, how paternalistically sexist of Steinem - seriously, who is she to start suppressing and repressing a woman with an "alternate" narrative to the accepted mainstream discourse? Isn't that precisely what the core of feminism seeks to defend - the alternate narrative that women, qua women, bring to the social mileu?

Certainly, anyone with half a brain (ergo, no-one who's a liberal) must appreciate the rather striking ironies here.


9 posted on 06/24/2010 4:44:23 AM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

There is a new feminism about...and this one has high ideals rather than gutter politics...get over it Gloria. You are a washed up has been.


10 posted on 06/24/2010 4:44:28 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: rodguy911; Canedawg; TexasCajun; Brices Crossroads; free me; justsaynomore; ...

So, there is actually a feminist “brand” now, and you have to be liberal to claim it?

OK, got it!


11 posted on 06/24/2010 4:47:51 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: indylindy
Palin should disavow the failed Women’s Lib movement as limited and confined to only certain women.

But feminist is a sacred word to them, like "marriage" is to us. They need us to help refine their definitions a bit!
12 posted on 06/24/2010 4:52:58 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Oceander

Right. Steinem should stop being so patriarchal, stop trying to craft metanarratives about feminism. Anyone who has a “God’s eye view” of feminism shouldn’t be allowed to call herself a feminist.

(I learned all of the jargon in 6 years at a liberal university)


13 posted on 06/24/2010 4:54:07 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010
I'm a femininist, a broad who digs being feminine. I never could figure out exactly what "feminist" means--to me it will always just be a mangled word.
14 posted on 06/24/2010 4:56:34 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: oblomov
Right. Steinem should stop being so patriarchal, stop trying to craft metanarratives about feminism. Anyone who has a “God’s eye view” of feminism shouldn’t be allowed to call herself a feminist.

(I learned all of the jargon in 6 years at a liberal university)


Hey! Same place I learned the jargon, too!

Ain't college grand!
15 posted on 06/24/2010 4:56:52 AM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

The left has, contrary to their stated relativism, one absolute: the right to kill an unborn baby.


16 posted on 06/24/2010 4:57:50 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: friendly_doc
“Gloria Steinem, an icon of the women’s movement, has criticized Sarah Palin for trying to brand herself as a feminist.”

Steinem??? is she the one with a mustache?

17 posted on 06/24/2010 4:58:59 AM PDT by BilLies
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To: oblomov

They sure talk themselves into a box don’t they?

They always feel like outsiders looking in - anti-establishment rubbish.
And then when they become the establishment - they won’t abide any outsiders.


18 posted on 06/24/2010 4:58:59 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

When did Sarah ever say other women COULDN’t have an abortion? Has she advocated making abortion illegal?

just curious


19 posted on 06/24/2010 5:03:30 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010
Gloria Steinem, an icon of the women’s movement

Says who?

20 posted on 06/24/2010 5:04:28 AM PDT by Neverforget01
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

Woman’s true power comes from pulling together with her family members to strengthen her own family, and in doing so, to strengthen her entire clan, which leads to a free and productive culture. Women who consistently raise up well bred God fearing children are indispensable, and will always be honored.

Steinem’s definition of a “feminist” sounds more like a cultural parasite whose need to prove herself comes at the expense of all others.The highest social paradigm is not in dependence, but interdependence.


21 posted on 06/24/2010 5:04:56 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

Gloria is so gonna get Facebooked.


22 posted on 06/24/2010 5:05:01 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010
There ya go, confirmation that feminism was not about empowering women to achieve their goals re: education, obtaining the CEO's corner office, "We can do anything a man can do" or the rest of the PC crap that has destroyed the language. Nope -- it was all about being able to exert the ultimate power over a man, the right to kill his child.

Thanks for making my decades-long point for me, Gloria.

23 posted on 06/24/2010 5:06:21 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: Neverforget01

Gloria Steinem, an icon of the UGLY & GODLESS women’s movement


24 posted on 06/24/2010 5:07:00 AM PDT by Rodm
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

Steinem - what an ignorant hack. She’s a slut for the Leftist agenda, but no champion of the rights of REAL women.


25 posted on 06/24/2010 5:08:26 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Watching the MSM with Obama is like watching Joslyn James with Tiger Woods)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010
Uhhh... Sarah doesn't need any association with the dyke squad. She's the reel deel and makes both sexes shudder when she speaks.
26 posted on 06/24/2010 5:08:42 AM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Let’s get more specific -

you have to support lesbianism and killing babies.

Well, actually, you just have to support killing babies.

Then you’re a “feminist”.


27 posted on 06/24/2010 5:10:05 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: friendly_doc

LOL!! Great post. I love it when the feminists dykes keep proclaiming that all women are not equal some more equal than others. Shows their true colors.


28 posted on 06/24/2010 5:11:04 AM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: silverleaf

Ah, you’ve hit upon the crux of the matter.

By NOT having an abortion herself,
Palin has pointed out that there, indeed, are more choices than abortion. Inherently, this implies that there is a moral difference between killing the baby and not killing the baby.

THIS is what the “feminists” can’t stand to have brought to their consciences. Most “feminist” “pro-choicers” are women who’ve had abortions and are seeking to forever justify their decision to kill their child.


29 posted on 06/24/2010 5:12:40 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: BilLies
Steinem??? is she the one with a mustache?

I haven't seen a recent picture of her but I think she is the one without a mustache.

30 posted on 06/24/2010 5:12:50 AM PDT by magslinger (If recycling makes cents as well as sense, I am all for it.)
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To: The Wizard

“In May 1975, Redstockings, a radical feminist group, raised the question of whether Steinem had continuing ties with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). Though she admitted to having worked for a CIA-financed foundation in the late 1950s and early 1960s, Steinem denied any continuing involvement.[12] Steinem was also a member of Democratic Socialists of America.[13] In 1984 Steinem was arrested along with Mrs. King, Amy Carter, over twenty members of Congress, and other civil rights activists for protesting the apartheid in South Africa.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_Steinem

STFU Gloria, your time has passed.


31 posted on 06/24/2010 5:13:04 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

Interesting that Steinem’s version of feminism revolves around death(abortion)

No wonder this brand of feminism made such as mess of women’s lives.


32 posted on 06/24/2010 5:13:59 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

If you are against abortion and believe that it is also best for women to adjure abortion in their own lives, I think you can, with integrity, call yourself a feminist. If you don’t think it is best for women, but just best for the baby, you are on shakier ground in calling yourself a feminist.

I can’t think of one pro-lifer I know who believes the second, so I would judge that we can all safely call ourselves feminists if we want to.

Gloria has had some good things to say over the years, but this is not one of them.


33 posted on 06/24/2010 5:16:42 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

Note to Gloria:

You don’t own the “brand”, now get over it and fade away, you hypocritical biatch!


34 posted on 06/24/2010 5:17:01 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Professional Politicians are a Threat to the Republic! Remove them on 11-3-10!)
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To: magslinger; BilLies
Let's face it, also.
If Steinem wasn't "hot" in her day,
no one would have listened to her either.


35 posted on 06/24/2010 5:17:36 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

From Webster:

Feminist: one who adhheres to the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes.

No mention of Abortion...


36 posted on 06/24/2010 5:17:43 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President)
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To: BilLies

I didn’t even know the old hag was still alive.


37 posted on 06/24/2010 5:19:53 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (No matter where you go there are always more stupid people.)
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To: MrB
GMTA


38 posted on 06/24/2010 5:21:02 AM PDT by magslinger (If recycling makes cents as well as sense, I am all for it.)
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To: KosmicKitty

‘Zackly.


39 posted on 06/24/2010 5:22:05 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (No matter where you go there are always more stupid people.)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

The bigger question for Gloria is whether one can be a feminist if one is a d*ckhead.


40 posted on 06/24/2010 5:25:02 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

Hey Gloria,

Your baby killing campaign has only served to undermine women, by making it seem they are sex objects to be used without consequence.


41 posted on 06/24/2010 5:25:15 AM PDT by G Larry (Democrats: expediting the Destruction of America, before they lose power...)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010
It's just a misunderstanding. Glo really meant to say that Sarah is not a radical feminist.

fem·i·nism  –noun
1. the doctrine advocating social, political, and all other rights of women equal to those of men. 2. ( sometimes initial capital letter ) an organized movement for the attainment of such rights for women. 3. feminine character
(from dictionary.com)

Radical feminism is a "current"[1] within feminism that focuses on the theory of patriarchy as a system of power that organizes society into a complex of relationships based on an assumption of "male supremacy"[1] used to oppress women. Radical feminism aims to challenge and to overthrow patriarchy by opposing standard gender roles and what they see as male oppression of women, and calls for a radical reordering of society (from Wiki)

42 posted on 06/24/2010 5:26:35 AM PDT by floozy22 (Did you ever stop to think... and forget to start again?)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010
The original women's movement is all about choice... at least until you make a choice they don't agree with.

What little credibility the women's movement had was lost when they stood by and said nothing while Clinton ran over multiple women.

43 posted on 06/24/2010 5:29:26 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

Political labels are admittedly subjective, but Palin branding herself a feminists a lot more plausible than Obama labeling himself “not a socialist”.


44 posted on 06/24/2010 5:31:56 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010
All to pathetic. . .When Thelma and Louise drove off the cliff; Gloria's brand of Feminism went with them. Years in a free fall; but surely Gloria, by now can identify the wreckage. . .and what arose from it. (Am guessing, Guru Gloria, never realized what was on board with Thelma and Louise; and so has never looked; nor realized the change after the the fall.)
45 posted on 06/24/2010 5:33:01 AM PDT by cricket
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To: The Wizard

Steinham is not a woman, she’s a monster..


46 posted on 06/24/2010 5:33:16 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: indylindy

Palin is hijacking the feminist movement and the original maladjusted female cretons who aborted (alliteration intentional) this momement on the American scene are not amused.

But Friedan, Steinem and all the other lefty feminists are ay past ripe.


47 posted on 06/24/2010 5:37:24 AM PDT by dools007
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To: dools007

That is to say “way past ripe”.


48 posted on 06/24/2010 5:38:50 AM PDT by dools007
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To: MrB

Hot dosen’t erase stupid...


50 posted on 06/24/2010 5:41:50 AM PDT by dps.inspect (uttox)
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