Posted on 06/24/2010 8:41:33 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
Now that Gen. McChrystal is officially out and Gen. Petraeus has taken the reins, juicy little tidbits (that, to be honest, might not have otherwise interested prior to the Rolling Stone piece) about McChrystal are making the blogosphere rounds.
Buried in a longish post by Marc Ambinder about the aftermath of the McChrystal removal was this little morsel: McChrystal apparently was not a fan of Fox News.
Now it can be told. The story about him voting for Obama is not contrived. He is a political liberal. He is a social liberal. He banned Fox News from the television sets in his headquarters. Yes, really. This serves to put to rest another false rumor: that McChrystal deliberately precipitated his firing because he wants to run for President.
(Excerpt) Read more at mediaite.com ...
McChrystal didn't criticize policy, he criticized personalities - a sign of a small man. There's no reason to believe he has any substantive disagreement with Obama on any military policy.
I guess he won’t be looking for a job there as a FOX news consultant
So why do you think he did what he did?
Sounds like “Weasel” Clark.
“Conservatives shouldn’t be so quick to defend McChrystal’
I haven’t. The term “Perfumed Princes” comes to mind.
good riddance to him and I can’t wait til we can say good riddance to Obama
A warrior and a liberal at the same time. Mind boggling.
McChrystal had to learn the hard way. His 4 star career is not so glittery anymore, and he can thank his big mouth and Obama.
Hubris. Arrogance. Fatigue - not necessarily in that order, but probably in that order.
Which is precisely why he felt so comfortable around Rolling Stone reporters.
“Conservatives shouldn’t be so quick to defend McChrystal, as it’s increasingly clear McChrystal is ideologically similar, perhaps even identical, to Obama.”
There’s a difference between defending the General and criticizing the POtuS he worked for. This was a simple case of a clash of two small men with enormous egos...soldiers have died for these punks for thousands of years...one of these punks just had a bigger title.
Agreed. I am already fed up with the radio hosts rabidly defending McC. They are not considering the restrictive rues of engagement he has created & the harm to our troops.
http://joytiz.com/2010/gen-mcchrystals-risky-policies/
And, he banned beer.
Getting him out of Afghanistan was the right thing to do, BO sacked him for the wrong reasons.
Didn’t he also ban troop comforts like hamburger concessions?
If so, and the fact that he voted for Bambi, he needs to seek life elsewhere.
While I won't say it's common, it's probably not as uncommon as you might think.
He wanted to take control....Thought Bammy couldn’t do anything.
Everyone seems to agree he has a warrier mindset. What if he and Petraeus agreed that the Obozo’s timetable for withdrawal was stupid, and that the only way to change it was if McChrystal were to leave command, and Petraeus were to take over and recommend that the timetable be eliminated so as to gain the confidence of the Afghan people?
Open Source intel sometimes was better than other sources, so we had to have them on and monitored 24-7.
The ideology, in this case, is irrelevant. He wasn’t acting in a political capacity, he was acting in a military capacity, and stating quite clearly that Obama wasn’t up to the task. His liberal bent, in the case, adds to his credibility (i.e. it’s not a clash of political viewpoints).
McChrystal’s ROE’s were/are anathema to our troops. How many are dead because of these ill conceived policies? I blamed O’bummer, initially. Now I think it was mostly McChrystal. Let’s see if Patreaus makes a needed adjustment there.
Why not change your mind? It may prevent some boggling.
Perhaps McChrystal didn’t like Fox News because Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal is a large stake holder in News Corp.
Having any trust in the ‘news’ would be more telling of supporting any ‘news’ company.
I’m having trouble wrapping my mind around the idea that a well-respected U.S. SpecOp officer, who has probably killed a lot of very bad guys in some of the world’s wrost hellholes during his career, can actually be a flaming liberal.
***so why do you think he did what he did?***
He was following orders from his CiC - and the reason for his firing is astounding. His staffers said ugly stuff!!!!
Seems like McChrystal did everything in accordance with BO’s dictates...no FOX for the troops - restrictive rules of engagement.
McChrystal seems a little nuts.
You might be surprised if you don't understand the mindset of MANY of our service academy professors. Some of them are just as liberal, perhaps even more so, than their civilian university counterparts.
The General Paces of the world are a dying breed, and they're being replaced by guys like McChrystal and Mullen - two guys who are clearly social liberals.
Many of the more conservative-leaning officers exit the military after reaching 0-6. It's so insanely political to get your first star, and especially the second star, people who are more conservative leaning, and therefor value meritocracy more than the next guy, just get out rather than continue to put up with the bureaucratic BS.
“Sounds like “Weasel” Clark.”
Yes, agree. One of the reasons I’ve been harsh with him in my postings. He came of age so to speak during the Clinton Administration IIRC, which to me is alarming, but that may be irrelevant.
Regardless until we get rid of the rabid radicals from behind the reins of power no General even as revered as Patraeus will succeed in winning the war in Afghanistan.
You beat me to it.
Someone on another thread actually posted the phrase ‘Palin/McChrystal 2012’.
Yikes.
No, he won’t be on Fox but he will probably pop up on MSNBC or CNN once in a while...
A falling out among thieves?
One ass-hole succeeding another?? Please spare me (us)!!
So he’s an idiot. Good to know.
Really? Maybe you are being sarcastic, but Wilson, Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, and Johnson (Lyndon) come to mind, so it's not that boggling.
And he banned BurgerKing, Pizza Hut, etc on the bases.
So a leftist can’t get along with another leftist! And apparently is WAS the general who prevented troops from actually defending themselves. Looks to me as though two highly arrogant people collided and the least politically powerful was the loser.
So we are to believe all this stuff because........
0bama blames Bush for all his problems.
After the deadliest month, so far, of the Afghan war, McChrystal blamed 0bama for all his problems.
What military policy of Barack Obama has McChrystal criticized? None that I can discern. His disagreement have been about personality and style, not substance.
I couldn't care less about personality nor style. I care about the substance of Obama's policies. Those are what I find offensive - domestic policies, foreign policies and military policies.
“This was a simple case of a clash of two small men with enormous egos...soldiers have died for these punks for thousands of years...one of these punks just had a bigger title.”
Sounds about right to me.
Yes,he was reportedly the one who banned all the fast food concessions.
He might have given Operation orders, but he has never lead men on the battlefield and received fire.
Exactly. now we know this brain dead leftist / idiot let a far let wing nutter outfit like Rolling Stone into Centcom run headquaters in Kabul !
Obama takes out one of his KOOL AID drinkers who feel off the Obama Kool Aid diet.
“Why not change your mind? It may prevent some boggling.”
Hmmmm...You’re assuming I’m not happy with a boggled mind.
While not a military man it has always seemed to me that the general officer ranks are very political.
That’s what I wonder. McC had to approve the article before it ran; it was no accident. He’s disciplined enough (or so I hear) that he wouldn’t have just thrown caution to the wind. I wonder if he did it and then apologized in order to get himself removed, making Obama desperate for cover and putting Petraeus in a position to be able to ask for - and receive - what is needed to win in Afghanistan.
I suppose we’ll never know. But now that the situation is here, I really hope that Petraeus will use the position he’s in to finally have something done right for our troops in Afghanistan. My sister’s brother-in-law is deploying soon as a chaplain in the reserves. He and all the others deserve better than what Obama has been willing to give them.
Don’t you think most generals are?
Wasn’t he a Delta Operator or Green Beret?
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