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Fox: Obama May Bypass Congress to Let Illegals Stay(Proof of the alien in White House)
newsmax ^ | 6/25/10

Posted on 06/25/2010 8:38:57 AM PDT by bestintxas

The Obama administration has been holding behind-the-scenes talks to determine whether the Department of Homeland Security can unilaterally grant legal status on a mass basis to illegal immigrants, according to Fox News.

The source for this bombshell – which could ignite a national uproar given that a majority supports tougher laws against illegals – is an unidentified former Bush administration official who spoke with at least three people involved in those talks.

The issue was raised publicly by eight Republican senators who wrote to the White House on Monday to complain that they had heard the administration was readying a "Plan B" in case a comprehensive immigration reform bill cannot win enough support to clear Congress, according to Fox.

The White House would not confirm or deny the claim. But the former Bush official said the discussions are real.

"The administration at the very minimum is studying legal ways to legalize people without having to go through any congressional debate about it," the source said, calling the senators' claim credible. "Whether somebody pulls the trigger on that, that's another issue."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bohica; immigration; obama; obamanation
There are no qualms from this man on what he think he can do.

Obama obey the Constitution or respect citizens? No way.

Impeachment proceedings need to take place as soon as the new Congress is sworn in January 2011.

1 posted on 06/25/2010 8:38:59 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas
IMPEACH THE SUMBEACH!


2 posted on 06/25/2010 8:41:07 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Never trust anyone who points their rear end at God while praying.)
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To: bestintxas
Obama May Bypass Congress to Let Illegals Stay

This would be the end of the Republic, if it came to pass.

3 posted on 06/25/2010 8:41:42 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: bestintxas

If Obama did this by Executive Order he would be impeached.


4 posted on 06/25/2010 8:42:19 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President)
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To: bestintxas

Finding a “quasi-legal basis” for getting your political will done is how dictatorships are run. There is a clear process for introducing and passing a bill. If he does not have the votes for it that’s his freakin problem. Every time he does something like this he just subverts the system more and more.


5 posted on 06/25/2010 8:42:19 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Memo to Sharron Angle: STAY AWAY FROM JOHN MCCAIN!)
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To: bestintxas

If he usurps the will of the people and the legislative authority of Congress in this way, the appropriate remedy is impeachment.


6 posted on 06/25/2010 8:42:22 AM PDT by p. henry
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To: bestintxas
Impeachment proceedings need to take place as soon as the new Congress is sworn in January 2011.

And somebody needs to pull the remaining democrats aside and lay out their offenses and offer them the choices of supporting impeachment, resignation, or prison.
7 posted on 06/25/2010 8:42:52 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: bestintxas

The usurper has bypassed the Constitution, the people, the court, and the congress. Impeach the traitor!


8 posted on 06/25/2010 8:45:08 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: Mikey_1962

Why? The dems don’t care.


9 posted on 06/25/2010 8:49:12 AM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: Turbo Pig
This would be the end of the Republic, if it came to pass.

No, it would be the end of Precedent Obama and the Democrat party.

10 posted on 06/25/2010 8:54:39 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Mikey_1962

Agree with you. It would be the executive equivalent of crossing the Rubicon.


11 posted on 06/25/2010 8:56:44 AM PDT by linear ("Conservatism" is fealty to the Constitution. "Hope" is using a 3-wood in the rough.)
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To: bestintxas

This could spark “it”.


12 posted on 06/25/2010 8:56:45 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: bestintxas

Simply considering it is treason.


13 posted on 06/25/2010 9:03:48 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: bestintxas
The senators -- claimed in their letter that the administration was looking at extending what is known as deferred action or parole to millions of illegal aliens in the United States.

The communists know they are going to get creamed in November. I have said in other posts that when bammy gets his leash snapped on after the election he will go absolutely ape$hit nuts.

The White House would not confirm or deny the claim.

Apparently he is seriously considering this amnesty to get the criminal illegal aliens in the vote. By doing so and in conjunction with recent defiance of a federal judge’s orders he is confirming he will not obey the law, thus demonstrating his total detachment from reality. Such a person as head of state is absolutely what the impeachment procedure is for.

The question is; given the projected composition of the Senate after the election can it be done? How many votes does it take to stop this nut?

If this proceeds and 35 million criminal illegal aliens are "paroled" into the voting booth it is the total usurpation of the Constitutional process and a complete abandonment of the rule of Constitutional law by the current communist administration.

Things will get "ugly."

14 posted on 06/25/2010 9:06:22 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Turbo Pig

I disagree. The people will take it back and reverse any decision he makes. I guess I have more faith in our people. We make some dumb decisions at times but we have always come to our senses.


15 posted on 06/25/2010 9:12:27 AM PDT by RC2
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To: bestintxas


16 posted on 06/25/2010 9:16:17 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: bestintxas


"Top of the world, Pop!!!"
17 posted on 06/25/2010 9:20:05 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Napolean fries the idea powder.)
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To: bestintxas
Meanwhile Michelle and her 20 attendants tell peons in the middle of depression—let them eat cake with the illegals....Impeachment my butt this is treason time....We have an invading army and Obama is going to grant them legal status on his own? TREASON.
18 posted on 06/25/2010 9:21:23 AM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: reagan_fanatic

He wants to ignite a civil war. Can’t let him do that.


19 posted on 06/25/2010 9:22:18 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: linear

I’m still reeling from the passage of the deathcare bill. Each time they get away with something huge, B.O. and the Dems become emboldened to enact even more unthinkable acts. They will continue until stopped by a force they cannot contend with. I hope that “force” is the 2010 and 2012 elections.


20 posted on 06/25/2010 9:22:22 AM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: Mikey_1962
If Obama did this by Executive Order he would be impeached

Not a chance and Obamam knows it.
(1) The GOP cannot get 66 votes in the senate, even if every single Democrat up for election in 2010 is thrown out. In fact the GOP can't even get 60 to stop filibusters.

(2) No Democrat will ever vote to impeach a democrat. So unless you have 67 GOP Senators there will be no impeachment. Democrats have no honor, decency or integrity. They believe only in power. For a Democrat party completely outweighs country.

(3)While the GOP is likely to take the House it will not be with a large majority. A number of RINO congress critters will reliably side with Obama in exchange for some political favor. Not many, but enough to prevent impeachment from passing if the GOP only has a five or ten seat majority.
21 posted on 06/25/2010 9:28:24 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: bestintxas

They could set up voting machines. In the November mids. If an illegal votes for a Democrat...Yo Citizenship Papers Pop Out.
If he votes Republican..Well he is immediatly hog tied and deported by Federal Express.
This would accomplish all Crat objectives without the need for messy politics.


22 posted on 06/25/2010 9:29:47 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: reagan_fanatic

From our lips to God’s ( and the steel backed republicans) ears.
This cretin and all his ilk need to be impeached and put in prison..we are too pc to hang them for treason.


23 posted on 06/25/2010 9:34:46 AM PDT by celtic gal
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To: crosshairs

Not only this could start real anger in the streets but the things going on in the gulf and AZ as well. Imagine leaving all these states out to hang by not enforcing the rule of law in AZ..and as to the gulf states. I could imagine the govs to tell this guy and the feds to go to hell and go forward and do what needs done to save their states.
Things are fast coming to a head.
Interesting yesterday now the commie from Russia and the Commie in the WH are so palsywalsy at lunch..they have the same goals and were no doubt laughing their commie heads off at the things they seem to think they are getting away with.


24 posted on 06/25/2010 9:38:42 AM PDT by celtic gal
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To: GonzoGOP

I thought impeachment was taken up and voted on in the House. A vote for removal from office takes place in the Seanate - ??


25 posted on 06/25/2010 9:42:23 AM PDT by atc23
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To: Mikey_1962

Or instead could he use a pardon?


26 posted on 06/25/2010 9:54:48 AM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: bestintxas

Hopefully if this happens, enough people will surround D.C. to prevent traffic in and out.

Some of these communists need to be reminded that they serve at the discretion of the people. Kinda nice if we could keep ‘em there, skinny them out a little, till the elections in November!


27 posted on 06/25/2010 10:16:52 AM PDT by oldmomster
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To: atc23
Why take the political hit to vote for impeachment when the failure to remove is already a forgone conclusion. You don't give your enemy an easy victory. A failure to remove would vindicate everything Obama had done.

If you strike at the king you must destroy him. To wound him is only to ensure your own demise.
28 posted on 06/25/2010 10:37:46 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Mikey_1962

If Obama did this by Executive Order he would be impeached.


No, unfortunately,

100% of the Dems would support him -— 100%.

Just like they did for Bill Clinton .

Even tho this is 10 times worse I repeat,

100% of the Dems would NOT vote to impeach.


29 posted on 06/25/2010 10:46:04 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: GonzoGOP

If Obama did this by Executive Order he would be impeached

Not a chance and Obamam knows it.
(1) The GOP cannot get 66 votes in the senate, even if every single Democrat up for election in 2010 is thrown out. In fact the GOP can’t even get 60 to stop filibusters.

(2) No Democrat will ever vote to impeach a democrat. So unless you have 67 GOP Senators there will be no impeachment. Democrats have no honor, decency or integrity. They believe only in power. For a Democrat party completely outweighs country.

(3)While the GOP is likely to take the House it will not be with a large majority. A number of RINO congress critters will reliably side with Obama in exchange for some political favor. Not many, but enough to prevent impeachment from passing if the GOP only has a five or ten seat majority.


You said it better than I did

A lot better

I wish 10,000 conservatives could read what you said.

Very sad but very true.

I weep for my country.


30 posted on 06/25/2010 10:50:03 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: bestintxas

He is desperate. He knows the DOJ lawsuit is likely to fail. If it does the floodgates open and MANY more states will pass a SB1070 (after republicans sweep in Nov)

He knows that he has a VERY limited time. After Nov 4. He’s as lame duck as there has ever been.

Yes. Yes. I know SB1070 will go to SCOTUS. But, it will likely go there on appeal from the FED. The states will be emboldened if the FIRST ruling is in favor of AZ.


31 posted on 06/25/2010 10:50:52 AM PDT by NeverForgetBataan ((Sure, you can forgive your enemies. But get even first))
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To: Red Dog #1

Or instead could he use a pardon?


well, I suppose he could pardon 20 million illegals. But how do you pardon someone before they are even convicted?

Oh, excuse me, wait a minute, didn’t Bill Clinton pardon his best friend forever Marc Rich? 20 minutes before he was scheduled to stop being president of the United States? Yes indeed he did.


32 posted on 06/25/2010 10:54:36 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
"The Supreme Court of the United States has interpreted this language to include the power to grant pardons, conditional pardons, commutations of sentence, conditional commutations of sentence, remissions of fines and forfeitures, respites and amnesties." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_pardon#United_States)

Please note the last word...amnesties. As much as I don't like the idea, it might be legal.

33 posted on 06/25/2010 12:37:09 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Clinton was impeached, but the Republicans made a Machiavellian decision that the would rather have the issue and a wounded President than President Al Gore Jr.

I agree with you about Clinton; he was not a bad President.

He was a bad husband, a serial cheat, and a perjurer; but not a bad President.

In fact after 1994 when he began to work with the Congress they made the Reagan boom bigger than George H W Bush could ever have.

34 posted on 06/25/2010 5:48:13 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President)
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To: NeverForgetBataan

“He knows that he has a VERY limited time. After Nov 4. He’s as lame duck as there has ever been”

Actually, those who lose nov 4 will remain in office until January.

For some time, I have worried that the months of November and December are the most frightening time in America’s history.

Uncontrolled lame duck voting by a bunch of those libs booted out of office with nothing to lose, that will be singed into law by the WH alien. Even a GOP controlled congress cannot overturn any of this afterwards as the WH alien can veto.

\Truly frightening.


35 posted on 06/25/2010 6:48:32 PM PDT by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas

So true.


36 posted on 06/25/2010 7:47:14 PM PDT by NeverForgetBataan ((Sure, you can forgive your enemies. But get even first))
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