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Idaho GOP panel supports repeal of 17th amendment
KIVI-TV ^ | June 25, 2010 | Associated Press

Posted on 06/25/2010 5:14:38 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

IDAHO FALLS, Idaho (AP) - Republicans from across Idaho took aim at the 17th amendment during their state convention, calling for repeal of the measure.

A GOP committee narrowly passed a measure Friday to include language in the state party's platform that seeks to nullify the amendment created a century ago to shift election of U.S. senators from state legislatures to voters.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; 17thamendment; fail; gop; idaho

1 posted on 06/25/2010 5:14:45 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Can we toss out the 19th too?


2 posted on 06/25/2010 5:17:21 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Can we toss out the 19th too?

That would be my recommendation....you can trace the start of this country's demise back to that.
3 posted on 06/25/2010 5:18:46 PM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Works for me. Get rid of the 16th too while we’re at it.


4 posted on 06/25/2010 5:19:16 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The people definitely got the short end of that stick.

Letting us vote for senators was the good part of it. Unfortunately they slipped that no recall crap past us.


5 posted on 06/25/2010 5:19:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I can see I may be moving soon.... I like adventure!!!


6 posted on 06/25/2010 5:20:35 PM PDT by 2aberro
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
While we're at it, we oughta amend the 14th also, to remove the anchor baby provision.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

7 posted on 06/25/2010 5:20:55 PM PDT by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? Go to www.myspace.com/rockfromtheright)
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To: pissant

For the life of mine, I’ll never understand the logic behind refusing the vote to a sector of the population allowed to own guns. Still, the “repeal the 19th” idea comes on FR from time to time, and it sounds serious enough to not be some running gag I’m not “getting”.


8 posted on 06/25/2010 5:22:17 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: pissant

23,24 and 26 too!


9 posted on 06/25/2010 5:23:23 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Sen. Jeff Siddoway, a Terreton Republican, joined more than a dozen other delegates in voting against the proposal, saying it takes voters out of the equation.

Siddoway told delegates: “You’re giving up your right to vote for people who are representing you in Washington, D.C.””

So either this guy does not know how our government works (stupid) or he is a democratic operative.

Who does he think that the House of Representatives represent? Who does he think votes them in every two years? With supposed Republicans like this, who needs enemies? Someone needs to pull ole Jeff aside and explain the difference between the Senate and the House and what our founding fathers did at the beginning that was brilliant beyond their years.


10 posted on 06/25/2010 5:24:00 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods. - H. L Mencken)
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To: 2aberro
Moving to Idaho? Welcome mat's out...we need more conservatives to offset the Left Coasters and Commiefornians that have infested us over the last decade. Ada County, especially.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

11 posted on 06/25/2010 5:24:19 PM PDT by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? Go to www.myspace.com/rockfromtheright)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Works for me. Get rid of the 16th too while we’re at it.

Go to the Library of Congress website and do a search on House Joint Resolution 16 that will repeal the 16th Amendment.
12 posted on 06/25/2010 5:26:42 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Do we really want politicians electing politicians to a 6 year term in the US Senate?


13 posted on 06/25/2010 5:33:50 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: wku man; Tolerance Sucks Rocks
While we're at it, we oughta amend the 14th also, to remove the anchor baby provision.

There's no such provision in the 14th amendment.

14 posted on 06/25/2010 5:35:38 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: antidemoncrat; All

That was the original intent.. The compromise says let the people decide the house and the states chose the Senators.. I think there would be a lot more conservative state houses if we didn’t have the 17th..


15 posted on 06/25/2010 5:38:38 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Soccer was invented by European ladies to keep them busy while their husbands did the cooking.)
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To: pissant

The original 10 are fine with me.


16 posted on 06/25/2010 5:39:27 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Moose Burger

Female vote:

Obama: 57%

Kerry: 51%

Gore: 54%

Slick: 54%


17 posted on 06/25/2010 5:39:53 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: antidemoncrat

Yes.

These United States need to send state ambassadors once again to the federal government, not three term congressmen.


18 posted on 06/25/2010 5:42:29 PM PDT by Jacquerie (It is happening here.)
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To: pissant

16th first.


19 posted on 06/25/2010 5:44:58 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper
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To: Borges

23,24 and 26 too!

Sorry you are gonna’ have to wait, obama is knocking them out one at a time in order...


20 posted on 06/25/2010 5:57:24 PM PDT by Cyclone59 (I ROCK, Guitar Hero said so........)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

me too


21 posted on 06/25/2010 6:03:37 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: antidemoncrat

Do we really want Obama voters doing it?

If people directly elect the House and they directly elect the Senate, then what is the point of having both?

The Senate were supposed to be “State Ambassadors,” statesmen who represented the interest of their state to the US Government. The House was supposed to represent the interest of the people.

That is why the House is elected to 2 year terms and the Senate to 6. The will of the people can change rapidly and in either direction. The Senate is supposed to have more forethought, looking at the long term betterment of the country, rather than doing what you have to to get re-elected now.

Also, the House is broken down by population, while the Senate is not. With direct election of Senators, all of Texas or California can only elect 2, while Rhode Island and Montana also get two. But if the Senators are representatives of the state legislatures, then each state gets 2 Senators, not the people.


22 posted on 06/25/2010 6:06:40 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Jacquerie

Hurrah!!!

I couldn’t have put it more succinctly.


23 posted on 06/25/2010 6:09:58 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Senators have only represented one thing since the Amendments passage, Themselves !


24 posted on 06/25/2010 6:10:48 PM PDT by dbrew2u
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To: rottndog

Only if you’re not good at tracing.


25 posted on 06/25/2010 6:11:19 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The 17th should definitely go.

It represents the most direct assault on the federal nature of our republic.

The Senate was meant to represent the states, as entities in their own right (like individuals) that required their own representation in the federal legislature.

The “peoples” representation, collectively, is in the House.

Now a U.S. Senator at most represents their self, and the few NATIONWIDE special interests that help them get elected. They do not operate to protect the rights, the powers and the obligations of the states; not even their own.

There is nothing anti-democratic about the state legislatures electing the U.S. Senators; unless one wants to pretend that either the election of those state legislators and their election of a Senator would not be “democratic”.


26 posted on 06/25/2010 6:16:55 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: SuzyQue
Aw come on......you gals already have plenty to do to have to worry about voting...voting is a thinking man's activity anyway.



*DUCKS*
27 posted on 06/25/2010 6:26:04 PM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
All of the sudden, I'm thinking Idaho sounds lovely this time of year...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

28 posted on 06/25/2010 6:30:47 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: rottndog

And, you know this how?

And, what do ducks have to do with it? :)


29 posted on 06/25/2010 6:34:23 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: SuzyQue
Prohibition.

Fool me once....


Must have one's ducks in a row afore riling up the womenfolk...
30 posted on 06/25/2010 6:47:37 PM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: pissant

Yep. The 19th needs to go, too.


31 posted on 06/25/2010 6:52:22 PM PDT by FourPeas (God Save America)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Matches our platform.
32 posted on 06/25/2010 6:57:08 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Take a bow, Barack!)
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To: rottndog

...Fool you twice?


33 posted on 06/25/2010 7:09:58 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: SuzyQue
We don't get fooled again....



34 posted on 06/25/2010 7:13:20 PM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: Paleo Conservative
"There's no such provision in the 14th amendment. "

Okay, I'll bite. What do you call the provision which states:
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside"?

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

35 posted on 06/25/2010 7:30:56 PM PDT by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? Go to www.myspace.com/rockfromtheright)
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To: wku man
Okay, I'll bite. What do you call the provision which states: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside"?

Look at it this way.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside"?
One has to born in the US and be subject to the jurisdiction of the US. Children born to illegal aliens are not subject to the jurisdiction to the US, they're subject to the jurisdiction of the country of their parents. For example children of foreign diplomats born in the US are not US citizens by birth.
36 posted on 06/25/2010 8:14:13 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

sounds like one of my Saturday morning breakfast club friends...


37 posted on 06/25/2010 9:43:41 PM PDT by castlebrew (Gun control means hitting where you're aiming!)
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To: pissant

No, I still don’t get it. By this logic there would be a good reason to bar Jews from voting (78% D). And more yet, it doesn’t deal with the fact of women being allowed to own guns; they’re not good enough for the ballot box, but they are for the ammo box. Yeah, right. I guess I’m going to go with the theory of this being an elaborate practical joke.


38 posted on 06/26/2010 7:03:21 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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