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Israel 'Plots Tehran Raid'
Gulf Daily News ^ | June 26, 2010

Posted on 06/25/2010 9:42:06 PM PDT by Strategy

MANAMA: Israel is massing warplanes in the Caucasus for an attack on Iran, it was revealed yesterday.

Preparations are underway to launch the military attack from Azerbaijan and Georgia, reports our sister paper Akhbar Al Khaleej, quoting military sources.

Israel was, in fact, training pilots in Turkey to launch the strike and was smuggling planes into Georgia using Turkish airspace, they said.

However, Turkey was unaware of Israel's intention of transferring the planes to Georgia, the sources said.

The unexpected crisis between Israel and Turkey following an Israeli commando raid on an aid flotilla bound for Gaza Strip hit Israeli calculations.

Azerbaijan-based intelligence units, working under the cover of technicians, trainers and consultants, have helped with the preparations, the sources said.

Military equipment, mostly supplied by the US, was transported to a Georgian port via the Black Sea.

Georgian coastguard and Israeli controllers are co-operating to hide the operations from Russian vessels, said the sources.

(Excerpt) Read more at gulf-daily-news.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel
KEYWORDS: iran; iraniannukes; israel; military

1 posted on 06/25/2010 9:42:10 PM PDT by Strategy
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To: Strategy

My guess, its disinformation.

Israel is probably quietly waging a psy-ops campaign so when the real attack comes it will surprise them and might even surprise the world.


2 posted on 06/25/2010 9:51:47 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Disinformation or not, there are several things to be gleaned from this article.

First, the Turkish governmnt and the Turkish military are not on the same page. Considering who is running the Turkish government, this is good news.

Second, there is no hope that the Georgians and Azeris could hide their involvement from Russia. This means that Russia chooses not to know what is going on for the sake of deniability. This is good news.

The part about American ground troops strikes me as disinformation, and the carrier rotations through the area are routine.

But you're right that when Israel decides to go for it, the Iranians are not going to know what hit them. I think the goal is regime change, not taking out the nuclear sites.

3 posted on 06/25/2010 9:57:32 PM PDT by Publius (Unless the Constitution is followed, it is simply a piece of paper.)
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To: Strategy

I want whatever they are smoking.


4 posted on 06/25/2010 10:01:30 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Publius; The Magical Mischief Tour
This kind of development reminds me of the situation in a run-up to invasion of Iraq. There were all kinds of stories flying around on media, conflicting with one another. Sudden overloading of media with disinformation is a good indication that something is up.
5 posted on 06/25/2010 10:05:35 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The Israelis should leak it that they have bases in the Iran countryside and they could strike Tehran within 20 minutes.

Then, in the middle of the night, blow up the flotilla ship in the harbor before it leaves.

Deny everything.


6 posted on 06/25/2010 10:28:53 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Conservatives are producers. Liberals are parasites)
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To: Publius

If the USA is in any way involved in this - even if it is not saying “no” - it makes it all the more bizarre that BHO refused to intervene on the side of the demonstrators after the Iranian elections. I have some decent sources on these topics - they think this is a bluff.


7 posted on 06/25/2010 10:40:56 PM PDT by uscabjd
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To: Publius
I think the goal is regime change, not taking out the nuclear sites.

Large task to take up. The Israeli's must be working with a sizable and powerful group inside Iran and doing it for some time. Regime change in Iran will not happen overnight.
So where do you get your confidence from that this is their goal? I try to stay attuned to news from Israel and have never even heard anything about this. Don't get me wrong, I don't doubt they would try this, and have been trying to work out how they will be able to pull this off.
If they can pull this off it would be great.
8 posted on 06/25/2010 11:58:14 PM PDT by JSteff ((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

It does seem a bit “fishy.”


9 posted on 06/26/2010 12:53:41 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: Strategy

Very few things would make me as happy as Israel kicking hell out of Iran.


10 posted on 06/26/2010 2:57:46 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Just say NO to RINOs. (FUBO))
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To: Strategy
reports our sister paper Akhbar Al Khaleej

I would trust DEBKA more than this gibberish.

11 posted on 06/26/2010 4:18:59 AM PDT by McGruff (How's that Hopey Changey thingy workin for ya?)
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To: Strategy

why no YOUTUBE video? Hard to believe, otherwise.


12 posted on 06/26/2010 5:05:41 AM PDT by 1234 ("1984")
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Absolutely so!


13 posted on 06/26/2010 5:23:24 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: 1234

LOL!


14 posted on 06/26/2010 6:32:42 AM PDT by lonevoice (I can see November from my house!)
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To: Publius
I think the goal is regime change, not taking out the nuclear sites.

I see this article as disinformation. Yet what you say above would be the more brilliant move. There's been so much talk over time of attacking Iran for their nuclear facilities, yet regime change would be the better move.

15 posted on 06/26/2010 7:03:24 AM PDT by bcsco (First there was Slick Willie. Now there's "Oil Slick" Barry...)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
My guess, its disinformation.

Agreed. Next week they will be reported as concealing training beneath the ash cloud in Iceland.

16 posted on 06/26/2010 7:17:48 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Now can we forget about that old rum-runner Joe Kennedy and his progeny of philandering drunks?)
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To: Strategy

As part of the ruse they need to release photos of crates stacked on a dock that say “Property of the Zionist Aggressor Army.”


17 posted on 06/26/2010 7:21:00 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Now can we forget about that old rum-runner Joe Kennedy and his progeny of philandering drunks?)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

>>
Israel is probably quietly waging a psy-ops campaign so when the real attack comes it will surprise them and might even surprise the world.
<<

True; but there will not be an above-the-board raid. Mossad will get a small Israeli nuke into one of the facilities and there will be an “accident.” This possibility is bolstered by IDF’s recruitment of “suicide mission” personnel from it’s special ops ranks.
Israelis will give their own lives to save lives as opposed to just taking lives randomly.


18 posted on 06/26/2010 7:34:46 AM PDT by noblejones (Obama rules!)
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To: Strategy

Why does this seem to have came from DEBKA word for word???


19 posted on 06/26/2010 7:59:42 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

...sez the Gulf Daily News. :’) I think this disinfo campaign originated in the Arabian regimes, rather than among Israelis. Thanks Strategy.


20 posted on 06/26/2010 8:00:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour; All

I totally agree.

Israel is very tight-lipped about any type of assault like this. I find it hard to believe they would allow this info to be revealed - unless it was disinformation.

If you’re really planning to hit somebody .. you don’t tell them in advance so they can be waiting for you.

Just like you don’t tell your enemies when you’re leaving the battlefield.


21 posted on 06/26/2010 8:03:19 AM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: Publius

I agree on every point.


22 posted on 06/26/2010 8:05:41 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I think the “flotilla” ship has not sailed as planned .. simply because 11 American/Israeli ships have suddenly made an appearance.


23 posted on 06/26/2010 8:08:03 AM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: uscabjd

I can’t believe the our current CIC would let the US military help Israel.

But I certainly believe we will be treated to a flood of disinformation as Israel gets ready to do something.

It’s one of BO’s worst decisions—not to support the dissidents in Iran. Unforgivable.


24 posted on 06/26/2010 8:21:34 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: Publius
Second, there is no hope that the Georgians and Azeris could hide their involvement from Russia. This means that Russia chooses not to know what is going on for the sake of deniability. This is good news.

Or it means that the story isn't true. It's hard to believe that the Russians are working with the Georgians (and the Israelis) against the Iranians. what kind of deal would that require.

25 posted on 06/26/2010 9:28:00 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Publius
I think the goal is regime change, not taking out the nuclear sites.

The everyday Iranian people want a secular democratic government and are protesting and organizing against the Regime. I have been following some on twitter and the videos of regime abuses are horrible. One video showed the police throwing students off the roof of the university dorm with their (students) hands tied behind their backs. The mullahs are trying to scare the people into submission.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13Y6jMob4a0&feature=youtu.be

26 posted on 06/26/2010 9:39:56 AM PDT by jerri (Is it over yet?)
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To: Strategy

Obama, ‘Plotz’ shooting down of Israeli planes if they attack Iran.


27 posted on 06/26/2010 10:13:59 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Strategy
Why is this in the “news”?
28 posted on 06/26/2010 11:13:25 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Strategy

Dizinformatziatta


29 posted on 06/26/2010 11:15:42 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Prezdet Obama is what you get when you let the O.J. jury select a president !)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
According to the AP, Iran has cancelled their plans to send a ship to Israel.
30 posted on 06/26/2010 11:22:18 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: JSteff
So where do you get your confidence from that this is their goal?

Machiavelli once said that if you strike at the king, you must kill him. Merely defanging Iran by setting its nuclear plans back only buys a few years at best. They'll be back. You need to remove the current government to buy real safety.

Regime change in Iran will not happen overnight.

Correct. For a model, look at how regime change happened 30 years ago. The Shah pulled out at our insistence, and we inserted a puppet (Bhakhtiar) who failed. We went with Islamism Lite (Barzegan) who folded when the Iranians decided to jump off a cliff with Khomenei. It took several years for the entire process to unfold.

So reverse that process. The Israelis hit Iranian command-and-control and take out the Revolutionary Guard and Religious Police installations. The result is a popular revolution resulting in Islamism Lite -- which is what the current political opposition is offering. The Iranians tire of this after a while and opt for a kind of mixed secular government under a different leader. That government folds, and the young Shah returns in triumph to reclaim his patrimony and set up the kind of secular system his father wanted but was never able to implement.

What Israel would provide here is a triggering event to tip the Iranian system over the edge.

31 posted on 06/26/2010 12:14:32 PM PDT by Publius (Unless the Constitution is followed, it is simply a piece of paper.)
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To: CyberAnt

Too bad Zero doesn’t have you on speed dial.


32 posted on 06/26/2010 12:44:31 PM PDT by imjimbo (The constitution SHOULD be our "gun permit")
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To: Strategy

Plots?

I think they means plans.


33 posted on 06/26/2010 12:54:48 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Publius

Ah. Wishful thinking. There is not a problem that can’t be solved by it...

There is no moderate islam. There is only islam. The only thing that will come out of such a plan is a smarter and less blatant form of muslim terror. -Like Egypt, Turkey and Saudi Arabia.


34 posted on 06/26/2010 2:23:39 PM PDT by LastNorwegian
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To: Joe Boucher

Amadjihad is going to get the Mother of all “Bitch Slaps”


35 posted on 06/26/2010 2:30:31 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: imjimbo

That wouldn’t matter .. my ideas are not in his playbook.


36 posted on 06/26/2010 3:43:03 PM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: Strategy

And pigs fly...


37 posted on 06/26/2010 3:57:46 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Publius

*But you’re right that when Israel decides to go for it, the Iranians are not going to know what hit them. I think the goal is regime change, not taking out the nuclear sites. *

I posited this the other day and was shot down. But to me, it would be easier to de-stabilize the regime than to blast several hardened sites into oblivion. Less blowback, too.


38 posted on 06/26/2010 6:14:29 PM PDT by j-damn
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To: LastNorwegian

There is another solution, which you guys have never heard of, and EVERY literate Sunni Moslem knows about and fears. The true King of Saudi Arabia is the Aga Khan. His ancestors lived in Iran, he is related to the Shah, so the Iranians all know about him.

They KNOW that someday a man descended from this family will rule Saudi Arabia and Iran, the question is WHEN. So there is a family, with male progeny, waiting in line to take over both S.A. and Iran. Oh, by the way, the Aga Khan is 64th in line for the British throne. No joke.


39 posted on 06/26/2010 6:54:46 PM PDT by japaneseghost
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To: uscabjd
they think this is a bluff.

I rather don't think the Israelis bluff about stuff concerning their national survival. Their motto being NEVER AGAIN and so forth.

40 posted on 06/26/2010 8:04:24 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Strategy

The Azerbaijani parliament has endorsed new Military Concept lately what allows location of foreign troops in country’s territory.


41 posted on 06/26/2010 8:53:28 PM PDT by Fennie
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Initially, I might agree, but don’t you think months of such “disinformation” will motivate the Iranians to make themselves even more bombproof than ever?

Seems like disinformation would be counter-productive in this case.


42 posted on 06/26/2010 10:12:47 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: LtKerst

Though our State Dept. denies it,
I’manutjob was one of the pieces of garbage that took our embassy folks hostage.
He deserves a very slow painful torture.


43 posted on 06/27/2010 2:49:34 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Just say NO to RINOs. (FUBO))
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To: Strategy

This report may be utter nonsense (or not)....but I do remain convinced that, very soon, the barnyard matter will strike the oscillating air moving device in a BIG way over there.


44 posted on 06/27/2010 8:20:48 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: FreeReign; All

I don’t think that the Russians are jumping with joy at the idea of having another nuclear Islamic state on their flank. Having Pakistan is bad enough. And just look how our president and theirs are making nice in Canada. I think O was smart, for a change, to not meddle publically in the Iran democracy conflict. That way the Mullahs could not accuse the students of being American lackeys.


45 posted on 06/27/2010 11:01:42 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Strategy

A lot of this sounds like our own people trying to put the “military option” back on the table, after Obama foolishly took it off. I don’t think the Iranians are going to be too impressed.


46 posted on 06/28/2010 12:16:48 AM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: japaneseghost

shakakan in line for the british throne?

wrath of kahn maybe...

aga kahn, aga kahn...

t


47 posted on 06/28/2010 5:47:19 PM PDT by teeman8r (NO vember is coming... vote them out)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

The Israelis will come from a direction that no one expects:

Underneath their feet.

Gravity weapons, never used before, will obliterate the Iranian nuclear facilities.


48 posted on 06/30/2010 2:03:24 PM PDT by happygrl (Continuing to predict that 0bama will resign)
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