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UK: No talks on Falklands, [PM] David Cameron tells Argentina
The Telegraph ^ | 6/26/2010 | Patrick Hennessy

Posted on 06/26/2010 4:02:07 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

David Cameron is set to restate "robustly" Britain's sovereignty over the Falkland Islands in unscheduled talks with the Argentine president at the G20 gathering of world leaders.

British sources said the Prime Minister would starkly turn down a fresh request from Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner for talks on the issue as tensions rose once again between the two nations.


Argentine president Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner

Mr Cameron was expected to make his point to Ms Kirchner either during an official leaders' dinner at the Toronto summit last night or at some point in the "margins" of official discussions on Sunday.

A source close to Mr Cameron said: "He will be robust. He will make the point again that our position on the sovereignty of the Falklands has not changed and will not change."

Tensions have risen since Rockhopper, a British drilling company, announced "potential signs" of oil in Falkland Island waters - although they did not say that commercial quantities were present.

British sources say Argentina has used the find as a pretext to "revisit the sovereignty issue". Last week a United Nations committee passed a non-binding resolution calling for the two countries to restart talks.

Mr Cameron was telling Ms Kirchner there would be no talks so long as Islanders said they still wanted to be governed by Britain under the internationally recognised legal principle of "self determination."

Since the 10-week Falklands War in 1982, which claimed 257 British and 649 Argentinians, Argentina has continued to claim sovereignty over the islands and officially refers to them as "Las Malvinas."

The US recognises Britain's "administration" of the Falklands, stopping short of fully endorsing its sovereignty.

Some observers were surprised that Mr Cameron was ready to use his first attendance at a major international gathering to

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: argentina; davidcameron; falklands; malvinas
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To: SunkenCiv

The best defense the Brits have of the Falklands is a couple of nuclear subs ready to sink any vessel that approaches the islands. Any airborne troops could be handled by the troops on the ground.


21 posted on 06/26/2010 8:46:16 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: az_gila

Ark Royal class?


22 posted on 06/26/2010 10:30:12 PM PDT by ffusco (The President will return this country to what it once was...An arctic wasteland covered in ice.)
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To: ffusco
Ark Royal class?

It's the Invincible Class.

But HMS Ark Royal is the newest, with HMS Illustrious still active, while it's the Invincible that is in storage.

I still remember going on the previous HMS Ark Royal when I was a kid - it was about twice the tonnage of the present one. Going up to the flight deck on the airplane lift was a thrill.

23 posted on 06/26/2010 10:55:25 PM PDT by az_gila (AZ - one Governor down... we don't want her back...)
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To: Lurker

What absolute horse manure.

The Argentines have scrapped their only amphibious vessel and the islands are defended by state of the art fighters and 1,000 troops.

You clearly do not have a clue.


24 posted on 06/28/2010 3:18:04 PM PDT by Stolly
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To: Oldexpat

Airborne troops would be dead in the sunken wreck of their aircraft before it came within a hundred miles of the place.

The Falkands has air defense radars and fighters on constant alert.


25 posted on 06/28/2010 3:20:11 PM PDT by Stolly
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To: bill1952

They have no amphibious ships anymore, they scrapped their last one in 1997.

They are still flying the same aircraft that had they lost 21 of in air combat without making a single kill in return.

Just how, in your rather intresting scenario are they going to kick anyone off anything, never mind the 1,000 troops, air defense radars, SAM sites, Typhoon fighters etc etc ?

Seriously everytime this thread appears some fool spouts this BS without even bothering to use Google.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_Falkland_Islands

The UK expediture on the defence of the Falkands exceeds the ENTIRE defence budget of Argentina !!!

http://www.janes.com/articles/Janes-Sentinel-Security-Assessment-South-America/Defence-budget-Argentina.html


26 posted on 06/28/2010 3:35:00 PM PDT by Stolly
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To: Stolly

Before you accuse anyone else of being obtuse, look at a map - then the mirror.
They can attack the falklands far easier than can England defend them and it is not impossible for them to do it.
England no longer has the will to expend resourse & effort & everyone knows it - Except perhaps you.


27 posted on 06/29/2010 8:13:56 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: bill1952

I predict that Stolly will shortly point out that the UK (of which England is a part) has sufficient military assets in place in theater to kick Argentina’s ass and that it has a greater ability to resupply its forces than do the Argentines.


28 posted on 06/29/2010 8:25:05 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: bill1952

Its the United Kingdom, since you have a desire for accuracy. It wasn’t New York that invaded Afghanistan in 2001 was it ?

Yes, lets look at the map. Lets look at that 300 miles of ocean that is patrolled by fighter aircraft that outclass and within a few days match in numbers the fighter aircraft of Argentina. Lets also express wonder at the clueless people who think an invasion force that consists of Argentina’s single amphibious assault vessel (built in WWII) can escape destruction by the SSN believed to be on patrol, just like the General Belgrano didn’t.

Never mind the fact that their LST doesn’t even exist anymore since it was scrapped in 1997.

What a very strange place you inhabit.


29 posted on 06/29/2010 12:57:57 PM PDT by Stolly
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To: Mr. Lucky

Heh i didn’t see your reply before i posted ;)

I would also point out that Argentina really needs to hurry up with this invasion since by 2019 the UK will have two new carriers in service (currently being built) carrying as many as 100 F35’s which compare interestingly with Argentina’s grand total of 21 fighters all based on 40 year old designs.


30 posted on 06/29/2010 1:14:18 PM PDT by Stolly
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To: Stolly
When next you're having tea with the First Lord of the Admiralty, could you suggest that a couple of Supermarine Seafires on the new carriers would win extra points for style? I'm just askin’.
31 posted on 06/29/2010 1:26:17 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky

That’s probably one of the best ideas i’ve seen for a very long time :)

In fact i’d suspect a Fairy Swordfish would be able to take off unassisted from the new class, i’d pay money to see that happen.


32 posted on 06/30/2010 12:06:50 PM PDT by Stolly
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To: bruinbirdman

Be careful, Britain...those Argentines can throw a mean snowball.


33 posted on 06/30/2010 12:12:22 PM PDT by Allegra (My seventh chakra is oppressed.)
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To: Allegra

Part of me wishes England could have beaten Germany in the WC, just so they could shut up that cheater Maradona once and for all.


34 posted on 06/30/2010 12:14:42 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Good grief....is Maradona still playing? I've got time zone/long work hours issues and have only seen bits of the games the US was in.

In the late 90s/early 00s when I was going to Argentina on business trips, they were all ga-ga over Fangio-Somebody.

35 posted on 06/30/2010 12:43:44 PM PDT by Allegra (My seventh chakra is oppressed.)
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To: Allegra

Maradona is the coach of Argentina.


36 posted on 06/30/2010 12:45:54 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: bruinbirdman

The UK should make a deal to sell them and get their people out of there before the Argentines occupy the island.

The Argentines can count on Obama sitting on his hands. This would be the time for them to act.


37 posted on 06/30/2010 12:48:41 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
Oooops....sorry. (But Maradona was a player at one time, right? Quite popular?)

I guess I should start paying more attention now that it's almost over.

38 posted on 06/30/2010 12:50:35 PM PDT by Allegra (My seventh chakra is oppressed.)
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To: dfwgator
Post #38 was meant for you.

It's been a looooong day...

39 posted on 06/30/2010 12:51:44 PM PDT by Allegra (My seventh chakra is oppressed.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

The only way they are going to get onto those islands is via a secret 300 mile long sub ocean tunnel.


40 posted on 06/30/2010 4:07:56 PM PDT by Stolly
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