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NRA Discourages Board Members From Testifying Against Kagan
Politics Daily ^ | JUne 27, 2010 | Matt Lewis

Posted on 06/28/2010 5:03:01 AM PDT by libstripper

On the eve of confirmation hearings for Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan -- and for the second time in two weeks -- the National Rifle Association (NRA) is under fire from conservatives. According to RedState's Erick Erickson, a prominent conservative blogger, "internal Senate emails confirmed by NRA Board Members show that the National Rifle Association's management team has explicitly and directly told the NRA's board they are prohibited from testifying about second amendment issues" during the Kagan hearings.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; kagan; nra; rtkba; scotus
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I've been an NRA Life Member since 1977, upgraded to an Endowing Member about 5 years ago, and have been a regularly contributing Golden Eagle ($200+ per year) for the last 5 or 6 years. Since the 2000 election I have contributed a total of at least $2,000 to the NRA's political and legislative activities. Although I am not going to cancel my membership, I HAVE JUST STOPPED MAKING ANY CONTRIBUTIONS UNTIL THEY CLEAN HOUSE AND GET RID OF THE LIBS. I strongly urge everyone else here to do the same. This, and the NRA's tacit support for Obama's DISCOLSE Act are TOTAL DISGRACES.
1 posted on 06/28/2010 5:03:04 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

The NRA is going to start falling apart.


2 posted on 06/28/2010 5:05:08 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Communism has arrived in Washington)
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To: libstripper

“CLEAN HOUSE AND GET RID OF THE LIBS.”

Methinks the NRA has been infiltrated by the libs. This would never have happened 20 years ago.


3 posted on 06/28/2010 5:07:53 AM PDT by rj45mis
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To: libstripper

Agreed. I first joined in 1964 and am now dismayed at the course they are steering. They are now apparently sacrificing principle for preferential treatment. Looks like I’ll be giving more to SAF and CCRKBA.


4 posted on 06/28/2010 5:08:12 AM PDT by Boomer One
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To: libstripper

The NRA called me yesterday for a donation. I let him have it for a couple of minutes regarding the Disclose Act. I specifically told him the NRA sold out fellow Americans by sacrificing their first Amendment rights to keep the NRA’s second Amendment rights. I concluded by telling him to him to got to h*ll.


5 posted on 06/28/2010 5:08:12 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: libstripper

Got=go


6 posted on 06/28/2010 5:08:55 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: libstripper

It sounds like the NRA is a gonner. And I was going to become a Life Member, this year.


7 posted on 06/28/2010 5:09:51 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (RAT Hunting Season started the evening of March 21st, 2010!)
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To: libstripper; bmwcyle
I've always hesitated to join the NRA, because it seems antithetical to the concept of the Bill of Rights that it requires a political action committee to validate each clause.

Sadly, if the NRA falls apart, or is infiltrated by leftists and we've elevated it to the level of the 2nd Amendment's bodyguard, then the 2A becomes vulnerable.

8 posted on 06/28/2010 5:11:10 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: bmwcyle; All
The NRA is going to start falling apart.

The libs have penetrated the staff and are driving wedges into the organization as fast as they can. The only cure is what the NRA and gun owners did to Smith & Wesson when it did its ill-fated deal with the Devil (aka the Clinton administration), a TOTAL BOYCOTT followed by a COMPLETE HOUSECLEANING.

9 posted on 06/28/2010 5:12:17 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

This proves the maxim - if an organization is not specifially conservative, it will eventually drift leftward.


10 posted on 06/28/2010 5:13:03 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: libstripper

the fix is in


11 posted on 06/28/2010 5:14:20 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: libstripper; All
Anyone who offers constructive criticism to the almighty NRA is an idiot.

DON'T SHOOT HOLES IN THE BOTTOM OF THE LIFEBOAT!!

(Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)

12 posted on 06/28/2010 5:15:15 AM PDT by OKSooner ("Give 'em another play.")
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To: rj45mis; All
This would never have happened 20 years ago.

Actually, IIRC, something like this did happen about 20 years ago. It produced a revolution among the Life Membes, followed by a complete housecleaning and the rejuvenation of the NRA. IT MUST HAPPEN AGAIN!!

13 posted on 06/28/2010 5:15:34 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper
as a life member myself, who just this past Christmas gave life memberships to my 3 sons... I must check into this more, assuming that this one so called journalist has all the facts is doubtful and sounds like they are trying to split the membership with this article.

I must reiterate what I have mentioned here before....the NRA is NOT a conservative or libertarian organization. It is a Pro 2nd amendment organization who will back A and B rated politicians who are liberal on other issues and will not back 90% conservative politicians who are weak on the 2nd amendment.

It has been that way since the 1960s when I first joined up...and I don't necessarily believe that is a bad thing as they are a strictly 2nd amendment organization

14 posted on 06/28/2010 5:15:53 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: bmwcyle

This is hard to figure. I was thinking of joining the NRA for the first time, but now I’ll watch/wait for awhile.


15 posted on 06/28/2010 5:16:25 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Man is not free unless government is limited.)
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To: libstripper; All
As one board member told me, "The bottom line is Chris (Cox) wants to have all decisions go through him and have no board involvement in decisions about or communications with Congress. He was the problem with the DISCLOSE Act. He's the issue re the SCOTUS nominees."

Chris Cox needs to go, preferably with tar and feathers.

16 posted on 06/28/2010 5:16:42 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: bmwcyle

Sadly, the NRA started falling apart years ago. They now support many aspects of gun control and the left wing agenda that even 10 years ago they opposed.

http://www.nrawol.net/

The sooner people start donating to true 2nd amendment organizations in competition with the NRA instead of to the NRA the sooner the competitior organizations will grow in strength. This may also have the added benefit of getting the NRA back on mission.


17 posted on 06/28/2010 5:20:35 AM PDT by Dayman
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To: libstripper

what in Gods name is the rationale the NRA is going with here. I dont know what Kagans views are with guns specifically i make the assumption a liberal anti-gunner though i have not see anything to confirm or refute this. Why on earth would the NRA not want to at least ask questions regarding her gun-rights stance?


18 posted on 06/28/2010 5:20:41 AM PDT by DM1
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To: Man50D
The NRA called me yesterday for a donation. I let him have it for a couple of minutes regarding the Disclose Act. I specifically told him the NRA sold out fellow Americans by sacrificing their first Amendment rights to keep the NRA’s second Amendment rights

What was their reply?

19 posted on 06/28/2010 5:20:41 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: libstripper

The Second Amendment Sisters were right on top of the Katrina Gun Grab issue, immediately denouncing it and getting the ball rolling. The NRA came late to the party and as the big dog, got more credit than they deserved.


20 posted on 06/28/2010 5:21:17 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Obama suffers from decision-deficit disorder." Oliver North 6/25/10)
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To: Puppage
What was their reply?

I don't know. I hung up before he could say a word.
21 posted on 06/28/2010 5:24:33 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Vaquero
I must reiterate what I have mentioned here before....the NRA is NOT a conservative or libertarian organization. It is a Pro 2nd amendment organization who will back A and B rated politicians who are liberal on other issues and will not back 90% conservative politicians who are weak on the 2nd amendment.

You got that right. This photo graced the pages of American Rifleman magazine last month:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2482268/posts

22 posted on 06/28/2010 5:25:50 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: libstripper

Thanks for posting. BTTT!


23 posted on 06/28/2010 5:26:42 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: libstripper

Waiting for the NRA apologists to come in here, chastise anyone criticizing this particular plan, and tell us that this is just masterful strategery that the rest of us buffoons are too stupid to see the brilliance of.


24 posted on 06/28/2010 5:28:11 AM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: Yo-Yo

and they give Reid a D rating and will not back him in the election....they did however give Reid his Photo op as Reid helped open up ranges in Nevada.


25 posted on 06/28/2010 5:29:16 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: libstripper

I have given up on the NRA for the second time, the first around thirty years ago when Harlan Carter ran the show. I believe that Gun Owners of America (GOA) is a better outfit, and will be my choice for second amendment rights defense from now on. http://gunowners.org/


26 posted on 06/28/2010 5:29:26 AM PDT by Big_Harry ( Starve the Beast!)
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To: Mich Patriot

Join the ONLY 2nd Amendment group that has done ANYTHING of substance for gun owners... the Bill of Rights Foundation was the core group behind Heller.


27 posted on 06/28/2010 5:30:42 AM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: thecabal

I just emailed the PVF and the ILA to ask what their answer to the article was.


28 posted on 06/28/2010 5:32:00 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Yo-Yo

So who are those uh, guys sucking up to Reid while he’s not at the line missing clay birds with his Weatherby custom engraved O/U?


29 posted on 06/28/2010 5:33:28 AM PDT by OKSooner ("Give 'em another play.")
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To: Joe Brower; Squantos; Travis McGee; Noumenon; SLB; archy
WHISKEY
TANGO
FOXTROT
... over

30 posted on 06/28/2010 5:33:32 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: libstripper
From the NRA-ILA as it appears today(don't believe everything you read......lets not throw out the baby with the bath water):

With a Key Supreme Court Decision
Pending, NRA Watches the Court's Latest Nominee

Friday, June 25, 2010

On Monday, June 28, the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee will begin confirmation hearings on the nomination of Solicitor General Elena Kagan to be an Associate Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court. With a Supreme Court decision expected that same day in the critical Second Amendment case of McDonald v. City of Chicago and many more Second Amendment cases likely to come, the NRA is following the debate over the Kagan nomination extremely closely.

Because Ms. Kagan has no judicial record and few academic writings, the NRA is carefully reviewing her record in other government posts, including her clerkship for the late Justice Thurgood Marshall and her involvement in formulating anti-gun policies at the Clinton White House. What we've seen to date shows a hostility towards our Right to Keep and Bear Arms, such as her role in developing the Clinton Administration's 1998 ban on importation of many models of semi-automatic rifles; her note mentioning the NRA and the Ku Klux Klan as “bad guy” organizations; and her comment to Justice Marshall that she was “not sympathetic” to a challenge to Washington, D.C.’s handgun ban.

We are working with pro-gun Senators to make sure that Ms. Kagan is aggressively questioned regarding her views on the Second Amendment and other issues that affect America's 80 million gun owners and we look forward to hearing her answers.

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=5936

31 posted on 06/28/2010 5:38:47 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: libstripper

This just goes to prove that as gun owners, we’re basically on our own.

The *Progressive* movement has bought off or infiltrated nearly every institution in this country. In turn, these disputes will likely be settled by the point of a gun.


32 posted on 06/28/2010 5:40:26 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
"Chris Cox needs to go, preferably with tar and feathers."

If this article's alligations are true, I agree. He's got to go. It sounds like a power grab within the NRA.
33 posted on 06/28/2010 5:40:52 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden (u)
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To: libstripper

When Obama got elected I finally rejoined after a long hiatus because of their inconsistent political activity.

But I’m thinking of canceling my membership again.
I do not want one penny of my money helping the NRA support leftist policies and candidates.

It seems the NRA is well on the way to becoming just another front organization like AARP.


34 posted on 06/28/2010 5:43:18 AM PDT by Iron Munro (I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take anymore beatings)
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To: Boomer One

Their actions of late have been quite disappointing for this Life member.


35 posted on 06/28/2010 5:44:40 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: libstripper

What the hell is the matter with NRA?? Charleton Heston wouldn’ve have put up with this sh*t. The current NRA leadership needs to set things right or that organization is going to see an exodus of membership.


36 posted on 06/28/2010 5:45:53 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: bmwcyle

I don’t know why people continue to fund this organization.


37 posted on 06/28/2010 5:51:02 AM PDT by jrg
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To: Yo-Yo
"You got that right. This photo graced the pages of American Rifleman magazine last month:"

That was in Americas First Freedom also. The article about Reid getting a big shooting park opened in Nevada. Although Reid is a despicable sleeze, he is good on gun rights so I'm okay with the NRA supporting him. Its looking good that he will get defeated anyways. Lets hope we're waving goodbye to him come November.
38 posted on 06/28/2010 5:51:33 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden (u)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
39 posted on 06/28/2010 5:53:33 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: ScottinVA

Nugent is still the highest-profile NRA board member; I’d like to know what Ted thinks of this - and the Disclose Act business.


40 posted on 06/28/2010 5:55:05 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: libstripper

Another fine reason why I will never be an NRA member again.


41 posted on 06/28/2010 5:58:15 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

he is C or D rated....not an F....but they will not back him in the upcoming election.


42 posted on 06/28/2010 5:58:18 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Nachum

What lunacy:

Elena Kagan — freeper research of radical judicial nominee
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2540124/posts

Nachum’s research:
http://www.nachumlist.com/kagan.htm


43 posted on 06/28/2010 6:00:59 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Senator Byrd [D] was a racist terrorist, and the hypocrite left revered him to the end.)
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To: libstripper

What does the NRA think it is doing? There has to be one person in the organization that is driving this because this is far out of line with rank and file NRA members.


44 posted on 06/28/2010 6:01:28 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Tyranny thrives when the people are silent.)
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To: libstripper

There are other great pro-2nd Amendment groups like Gun Owners of America, Right to Keep and Bear Arms, and the Second Amendment Foundation.


45 posted on 06/28/2010 6:02:00 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Vaquero

If the NRA can’t stand against a clear gun control justice like Kagan then they are not defending the second ammendment.


46 posted on 06/28/2010 6:05:45 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Tyranny thrives when the people are silent.)
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To: libstripper

I got a beg call from the the NRA this weekend. I gevethem a piece of my mind on their support for McCain, their compromise of principles and the
Kagan issue. Told ‘em not a dime to their orgainzation going forward, and that I would be cancelling my membership. Enough is enough.


47 posted on 06/28/2010 6:06:37 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Maelstorm

do you believe everything you read?

see #34


48 posted on 06/28/2010 6:08:53 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Maelstorm

do you believe everything you read?

OOOOOOOOOOPS

see #31


49 posted on 06/28/2010 6:09:53 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: libstripper

The story is fake.

The help does not give orders to the bosses.

The Executive Management takes direction from the Board, not the other way around.

more agitprop and disinformation from Rahm & Co


50 posted on 06/28/2010 6:11:26 AM PDT by lack-of-trust
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