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Third US carrier, 4,000 Marines Augment US Armada Opposite Iran
Debka ^ | June 28,2010 | Staff

Posted on 06/28/2010 4:13:17 PM PDT by lbryce

debkafile's military sources report that Washington has posted a third carrier opposite Iran's shores. It is supported by amphibious assault ships and up to 4,000 Navy and Marine Corps personnel, bringing the total US strength in these waters to three carriers and 10,000 combat personnel.

The USS Nassau (LHA-4) Amphibious Ready Group 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit, tasked with supporting the Bahrain-based 5th Fleet area of operations, is cruising around the Bab al-Mandeb Straits where the Gulf of Aden flows into the Red Sea. Its presence there accounts for Tehran announcing Sunday, June 27 that its "aid ship for Gaza" had been called off, for fear an American military boarding party would intercept the vessel and search it.

This would be permissible under the latest UN sanctions punishing the Islamic Republic for its nuclear program.

The third US carrier group to reach waters around Iran consists of three vessels:
1. The USS Nassau Amphibious Assault ship is not just an enormous landing craft for the 3,000 Marines aboard; its decks carry 6 vertical take-off AV-HB Harrier attack plans; four AH-1W Super Cobra, twelve CH-46 Sea Knight and CH-53 Sea Stallion helicopters, as well choppers convertible to fast V-22 Osprey airplanes capable of landing in any conditions.
This vast warship has 1,400 cabinets for sleeping the entire Marine-24th Marine Expeditionary Unit aboard.

2. The amphibious transport dock ship USS Mesa Verde which carries 800 Marines equipped for instantaneous landing.

3. The amphibious dock landing ship USS Ashland which carries 400 Marines and 102 commandos trained for special operations behind enemy lines.

(Excerpt) Read more at debka.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 12thimam; debka; iran; iraniannukes; israel; usa; usn; usnavy
Significant military build-up, prelude to what? Right now it's anybody's guess.
1 posted on 06/28/2010 4:13:24 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce
prelude to what?

Hopefully, a righteous and severe ass-kicking.

2 posted on 06/28/2010 4:15:22 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: lbryce

To ensure that Israel doesn’t attack Iran? I just can’t see bammy defending any of our good allies.


3 posted on 06/28/2010 4:19:13 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: TomServo

“prelude to what?”

Most likely an Obama apology.


4 posted on 06/28/2010 4:23:07 PM PDT by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: TomServo

To be righteous would require nothing less than being severe.


5 posted on 06/28/2010 4:24:51 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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To: sonofstrangelove; jhpigott; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; SunkenCiv; Quix

*ping*


6 posted on 06/28/2010 4:27:42 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: lbryce

BS
They make this claim every turnover.
Every 4 months or so.
The numbers and positions are not even close.

It is my belief that they do this to jack-up oil prices.


7 posted on 06/28/2010 4:29:11 PM PDT by DJ Elliott (USN (Ret))
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To: lbryce
"Its presence there accounts for Tehran announcing Sunday, June 27 that its "aid ship for Gaza" had been called off, for fear an American military boarding party would intercept the vessel and search it."

So what? Since when did the American military have a problem with aid? Unless of course...

8 posted on 06/28/2010 4:34:41 PM PDT by mitch5501 (top of the world ma!)
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To: lbryce

I doubt the 4,000 Marines. The 24th MEU only has 2,200 Marines. The rest must be the Navy.


9 posted on 06/28/2010 4:38:10 PM PDT by Recon Dad ( Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things)
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To: lbryce

These are not conventional carriers. They are used to support amphibious operations. A few Harrier jets do not make an aircraft carrier in the conventional sense.


10 posted on 06/28/2010 4:38:54 PM PDT by kabar
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To: DJ Elliott
Debkafile's military sources report that Washington has posted a third carrier opposite Iran's shores..

So are you saying that the US naval build-up in the gulf region opposite Iran is not militarily legitimate having been deployed by Washington, and by inference the CIC, merely to influence the price of oil?
You have an interesting take on the news, I must say.

11 posted on 06/28/2010 4:39:40 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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To: hennie pennie; jhpigott

“Amphibious Warfare Ships:
USS Nassau (LHA 4) - visit Port Victoria”
~~~

I thought Port Victoria was in Texas!!!...;0)


12 posted on 06/28/2010 4:42:04 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: lbryce

The fact these Groups are not in the Persian Gulf, but outside in the Arabian Sea, lends credence to the potential for SOMETHING.


13 posted on 06/28/2010 4:43:13 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, Uss Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Recon Dad
An LHA carries 2,200 Marines and 900 Sailors.

Of course, with hot-racking they COULD pump that up some...but sheesh, talk about LOUSY living conditions.

When I was on LHA-1 (Tarawa) the Marines were spending all their waking time in the chow line:)

14 posted on 06/28/2010 4:45:59 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, Uss Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: lbryce

Debka hyping again......


15 posted on 06/28/2010 4:53:49 PM PDT by cranked
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To: lbryce

This doesn’t pass the smell test. We don’t need amphibious access to Iran. With MUCH less noticeable buildup, we could have a LOT more men and hardware across Iran’s borders with Iraq and Afghanistan.


16 posted on 06/28/2010 4:55:45 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Mariner
My son's been on two MEU's and they cram them in tight. He was lucky both times, once he was Force Recon and the last time he was Marsoc. They bunk by themselves, not great but better.
17 posted on 06/28/2010 5:07:43 PM PDT by Recon Dad ( Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things)
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To: PapaBear3625
You don't remember the Marine prep for an invasion of Iraq, (the first time,?) It drew some of the Iraqi forces to the beach and away from the real push. Big noisy ships, planes, choppers, and landing craft draw attention.
18 posted on 06/28/2010 5:12:53 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: lbryce

I have been deployed there repeatedly in my 22 years in the USN. The TWO carriers are doing routine scheduled turnover. We do not gap the carriers in the IO.

The gators are also standard mix and standard scheduled turnover for the ESG/MEU that is CENTCOM’s reserve. The big deck gator is not a carrier capable of significant strikes on Iran.

Every time there is a carrier turnover for the last 6 years, there is a press claim that we are about to strike. Debeka always makes this claim. So do the Russian and Iranian press. And oil prices go up.

This is BS propaganda to prop up the oil prices which are looking to slide down again. The source is oil exporting countries. When you see 4 CVNs in the IO, and the PG empties out of all major USN units, then you can cry wolf.

This is normal levels of activity, not a build-up. It is normal for there to be a CVBG and an ESG in the IO. It is normal for them to turnover every 4-6 months. Been there and done that many times...


19 posted on 06/28/2010 5:13:05 PM PDT by DJ Elliott (USN (Ret))
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To: lbryce

probably there to protect Iran from the evil Jews...ya know how ombama is!


20 posted on 06/28/2010 5:14:43 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: Mariner
From the sign behind them this was from the Kearsarge. What a crew.
21 posted on 06/28/2010 5:16:31 PM PDT by Recon Dad ( Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things)
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To: lbryce

Maybe a prelude to interfere with Israel.The Obafactor cannot be ignored because we are no longer an ally of Israel’s.


22 posted on 06/28/2010 5:34:38 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is fascist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: hennie pennie

THX. WILL CHECK IT OUT.


23 posted on 06/28/2010 5:40:44 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Candor7

Maybe Obama is setting them up as bait. Might explain e recent shift in commanders nearby.


24 posted on 06/28/2010 5:41:22 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: lbryce; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; annieokie; aragorn; auggy; ...

END TIMES ISRAEL PING TO OP (ORIGINAL POST)


25 posted on 06/28/2010 5:44:24 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Cvengr

Like you I do not trust Barry Soetoro one bit. Look at what happened with Clinton and his Somalia fiasco.


26 posted on 06/28/2010 5:48:23 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is fascist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: lbryce

This is DEBka...

No trust in the source.


27 posted on 06/28/2010 5:54:28 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: DJ Elliott

Taking into consideration “USN(Ret)” not merely as your FR ‘user name’ but emphatically as credentials to legitimately know what you’re talking about, I humbly defer to your naval background/experience and stand corrected.


28 posted on 06/28/2010 5:58:27 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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To: hennie pennie; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...

from Debka. Thanks hennie pennie.

But still, introductions are in order. Old town? Hot time. Hot time? Old town.


29 posted on 06/28/2010 6:14:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: lbryce
Iran has only one thing to fear:

Barry's approval rating hitting about 40%

This is typically when Democrat presidents launch wars.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

30 posted on 06/28/2010 6:24:01 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: lbryce
I recall when Debka revealed tens of thousands of Red Chinese troops in the Bekaa Valley. Wonder what ever became of them.
31 posted on 06/28/2010 6:39:49 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: lbryce

I suspect our forces are not preparing to attack.

Instead, I think they are “bait” to lure Ahmanutjob into attacking. Or possibly to keep his head down while Israel launches attacks on Iran’s nuclear facilities.

Just speculating.


32 posted on 06/28/2010 7:56:23 PM PDT by DNME (Prepare ... quickly. Time grows short.)
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To: Dallas59

You think Iran takes Obambi’s muscle-flexing seriously? It is in place to “reassure” the Israelis that America has it’s eye on Iran but to what avail? Would a Nobel Prize winning President launch an attack on Iran? Not going to happen. MAYBE Israel will attack and then the US will hit them AFTER 80,000 missiles hit Tel Aviv...


33 posted on 06/28/2010 11:05:37 PM PDT by Netz
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To: Mariner
The fact these Groups are not in the Persian Gulf, but outside in the Arabian Sea, lends credence to the potential for SOMETHING.

4'th of July fleet barbecue.

34 posted on 06/28/2010 11:09:05 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Mariner

The positioning can also support activity in Afghanistan.


35 posted on 06/28/2010 11:12:30 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: lbryce

Well, my guess is that the Israelis are now expecting a two-prong attack against them instead of just a single-prong attack from Iran.


36 posted on 06/29/2010 2:44:30 AM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: ASA Vet

The Iranians will be in for a big surprise when the tunnel boring machines appear under them!

****


37 posted on 06/29/2010 2:56:11 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: Mariner
The fact these Groups are not in the Persian Gulf, but outside in the Arabian Sea, lends credence to the potential for SOMETHING.

OMG...To all those stationed in Diego Garcia...buy up all the beer and hoard all the good stuff before "they" arrive...

38 posted on 06/29/2010 3:28:51 AM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (In just His first 3 days, the War on Terror became the War on Free Speech.)
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To: FDNYRHEROES

buy up all the beer and hoard all the good stuff before “they” arrive...


Yes, when the ‘Big Boys’ come a calling, the price of everything goes UP. Those stationed there and the ones lucky enough to be HP there, kind of sit back and let the locals make their big ‘pay days’ and wait for things to get back to normal.
At least that is the way I remember it, guess things haven’t changed that much...
<: <:


39 posted on 06/29/2010 4:04:41 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98 ) FIRE ALL INCUMBENTS)
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To: The Comedian

“This is typically when Democrat presidents launch wars.”

In the most sick kind of way, wars typically spur economies and put the unemployed back to work.

They also make lots of money for the globalist oligarchy.


40 posted on 06/29/2010 4:39:21 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: lbryce

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2543488/posts

Truman Carrier Strike Group Relieves Eisenhower
USS Harry S. Truman Public Affairs ^ | 6/28/2010 | Navy.mil


41 posted on 06/29/2010 6:01:22 AM PDT by DJ Elliott (USN (Ret))
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To: DJ Elliott

Thank you, sir, for the “heads-up”.


42 posted on 06/29/2010 8:51:49 AM PDT by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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To: DJ Elliott

you’re right ... best sign of action is the USN scats the Persian Gulf ... except for the 688s, of course ..


43 posted on 06/29/2010 10:02:06 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Angels and Ministers of Grace, Defend Us ....)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Too shallow for the 688s. No room to manuver.
Some of the DDGs and FFs will stay in to work with the GCC navies but that is all. The birdfarms will be at Gonzo. It will look like 1987-88 except the CVN count will be 4 on Gonzo Station. 2 does not hack it...

Note: This turnover is off the Pakistani coast. It is offensive season in Afghanistan and the carrier is providing air support.


44 posted on 06/29/2010 12:09:32 PM PDT by DJ Elliott (USN (Ret))
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To: DJ Elliott

So you’re thinking this is just a saber rattling ruse?


45 posted on 06/29/2010 6:57:34 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: WKUHilltopper

I think it is normal operations being potrayed by propagandists as sabre rattling.

This is not new, it happens every 4-6 months.
When you see 4 CVNs in the IO, then we are doing something.
Ignore the big-deck gator, its aircraft do not have the range...


46 posted on 06/30/2010 6:34:56 AM PDT by DJ Elliott (USN (Ret))
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To: DJ Elliott

Makes sense....thanks.


47 posted on 06/30/2010 11:40:13 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: DJ Elliott

thanks ! x 2


48 posted on 07/01/2010 5:56:54 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Angels and Ministers of Grace, Defend Us ....)
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To: WKUHilltopper; Patton@Bastogne

Turnover complete and Eisenhower in Med heading for the barn.

http://www.dvidshub.net/?script=news/news_show.php&id=52443

Right on schedule.

There is always a spin-up when a CVN is inbound to relieve, but never a follow-up mention when the relieved CVN heads for home.


49 posted on 07/06/2010 3:01:40 PM PDT by DJ Elliott (USN (Ret))
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To: DJ Elliott

Looks like you were right.


50 posted on 07/06/2010 5:01:51 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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