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Lessons from 'The Karate Kid' -- Japan out, America down, China on the rise
Washington Post ^ | June 27, 2010 | Howard Schneider

Posted on 06/29/2010 6:18:44 AM PDT by La Lydia

....when paired with its summer 2010 remake, the two movies offer a parable on the transformation of the global economy, the end of the American century and the changing balance of power between the United States and Asia. Between Jackie Chan's sly digs about global warming and Jaden Smith's status as a refugee of the U.S. economy, you can almost feel the world's center of gravity shifting.

... you'll recall that, back then, California was still the promised land, the place where the film's teenage protagonist, Daniel LaRusso, and his mom had moved from New Jersey to start a new life. It was also the place to which the family of Daniel's Japanese mentor, Mr. Miyagi, had immigrated years before...

It was also an America halfway through the Reagan years, a superpower at the height of its Cold War influence but still coming to terms with its own strength, still grappling with the proper uses of force...

...the movie offered some subtle moralizing on U.S. conflicts of the past half-century...the bullies who antagonized Daniel were trained by a Vietnam veteran ...this movie has been set in Beijing in what amounts to a two-hour-plus advertisement for the country ... (Perhaps the $5 million in funding from the Chinese government, together with permission to film in the country, helped shape the outcome?...

Key plot dynamics are reversed. America is no longer the land of opportunity...

Instead it is all the way to an apartment complex in downtown Beijing...a full-blown inversion of the immigration patterns that defined the modern global economy...If the United States is no longer a beacon for ambitious immigrants -- and indeed is exporting bright young families -- maybe it is in decline.

China, it would seem from the movie's perspective, is clearly the future. ...

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KEYWORDS: defeatism; film; sellout
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In which Will Smith sells his artistic integrity to the Red Chinese. Although I don't agree with all of his assumptions, I think the writer is on to something in the way he describes Hollywood's approach to the country of its birth.
1 posted on 06/29/2010 6:18:46 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

Leftwing big media are very happy to push this premise any opportunity they get


2 posted on 06/29/2010 6:23:48 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: La Lydia

Have you even seen the movie?

I find it amazing how someone can take a story, and pick it apart to find anything they want to find. And next thing you know, a story about a young kid overcoming the odds and winning through self-reliance, hardwork and discipline becomes an Anti-American story.

Did you know that Buzz Lightyear is Woody’s gay lover? I mean, that has to be a pro-homosexual agenda to the entire Toy Story franchise, right? < yeah, that’s sarcasm>


3 posted on 06/29/2010 6:26:46 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: La Lydia
In which Will Smith sells his artistic integrity to the Red Chinese.

And get a starring role for his son.....

4 posted on 06/29/2010 6:29:13 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Hodar
Did you know that Buzz Lightyear is Woody’s gay lover? I mean, that has to be a pro-homosexual agenda to the entire Toy Story franchise, right?

OHMIGAWD!!!! :^)

5 posted on 06/29/2010 6:30:29 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: qam1

Comparison of Karate Kid from Gen X to Gen Y.


6 posted on 06/29/2010 6:33:10 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: La Lydia
"Will Smith sells his artistic integrity"?

I think there's an old law that says a thing cannot be sold unless the seller is in possession of it!

How much of the rest of the media is owned by America's emenies? Let's face it, buying US media would be the best spent defense dollars they ever spent
7 posted on 06/29/2010 6:35:27 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: Hodar
Did you know that Buzz Lightyear is Woody’s gay lover?

"but....but....errrrrr.....he said....."

8 posted on 06/29/2010 6:38:10 AM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: La Lydia

I saw the movie (liked it by the way as did my wife and kids). The mom works for an automobile company in Detroit. They transfer her to China where they have their operations. Pretty realistic if you ask me.

Now, let’s discuss WHY Detroit is a failed city for the automotive industry. Anyone who has been awake for the last 30 years saw all of this coming.


9 posted on 06/29/2010 6:40:39 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Hodar
Have you even seen the movie? I did not write this.

... becomes an anti-American story... That is the author, not me. And he strikes me as fairly negative about America, for what it's worth.

... a pro-homosexual agenda...

Being an adult with no small children, I have never seen Toy Story so I have no idea what you are talking about.

10 posted on 06/29/2010 6:45:29 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia
Sweep the leg, Shau-ping.

No thanks. But I don't know if I'm ready to look back sentimentally at the first version, though.

11 posted on 06/29/2010 6:51:23 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: La Lydia

WaPo hates America.

Everything is seen through that lens.

Even movie reviews.

Ditto NYT.


12 posted on 06/29/2010 6:53:43 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Hodar
Did you know that Buzz Lightyear is Woody’s gay lover?

Not when he is in Spanish mode.
13 posted on 06/29/2010 6:55:32 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

http://www.marchandmeffre.com/detroit/index02.html


14 posted on 06/29/2010 6:56:31 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Hodar

>>I find it amazing how someone can take a story, and pick it apart to find anything they want to find. And next thing you know, a story about a young kid overcoming the odds and winning through self-reliance, hardwork and discipline becomes an Anti-American story.<<

I saw it. Honestly, if you didn’t see that it was a giant commercial for China, you had your eyes closed.
It was also a giant push for little bitty Jaden Smith who was a very small 10 at the time of filming and touted as 12, but looked 8. The romance with the Chinese girl didn’t even work for my own 12 year old.
If you saw the original, this one was totally implausible. The kid competed against other kids who had been doing Kung Fu all their lives in communist China. In the original, the kid had at least had SOME training and the other students were just taught a bastardized version of Karate. That’s why he could win.
The final move, which Jaden had seen some woman doing ONCE was abstract. In the original, you see Pat Morita doing the final move and Ralph Macchio practicing it. In this movie it totally came out of the blue, giving one the impression that Jaden was tremendously talented, which of course was his parent’s aim.

Poor Jackie was a background character. You saw him fight once. They could have utilized him so well, but it’s almost like the Smiths needed a name to sell the movie and Jackie was paid very well.

I REALLY wanted to like it. Love Jackie but it was not “The Karate Kid”.


15 posted on 06/29/2010 6:56:31 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: La Lydia; Hodar
... a pro-homosexual agenda... Being an adult with no small children, I have never seen Toy Story so I have no idea what you are talking about.

Two things:
1. I think Hodar was mocking the author's stretching to find a political anti-American message in the movie, and the Toy Story "gay" theme was a tongue-in-cheek way of accentuating that point.
2. The Toy Story movies are probably even more enjoyable to an adult who at one time was a child and played with toys like Etch-a-Sketch, and Slinky Dog, and Mr. Potato Head, and the little green soldiers, and Barrel of Monkeys, and so many other toys that I remember from my childhood. If you haven't seen any of the Toy Story movies, I recommend you rent Toy Story and Toy Story 2 on DVD this week and go see Toy Story 3 at the theater this weekend.

16 posted on 06/29/2010 6:59:25 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: GonzoGOP

>>Not when he is in Spanish mode. <<

Amen. And Jesse LIKED his Spanish mode!


17 posted on 06/29/2010 7:00:21 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: GonzoGOP
Not when he is in Spanish mode.

LOL! Ay un amigo en mi!

18 posted on 06/29/2010 7:00:49 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: netmilsmom
It was also a giant push for little bitty Jaden Smith who was a very small 10 at the time of filming and touted as 12, but looked 8.

Compared to Ralph Macchio, who was around 23 when he did Karate Kid but looked like a malnourished 14 y/o.

19 posted on 06/29/2010 7:02:20 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: netmilsmom; GonzoGOP
And Jesse LIKED his Spanish mode!

The Spanish mode scenes were hilarious. For that matter, there were several side-splitting hilarious scenes. TS3 was my favorite of the franchise with an outstanding ending.

20 posted on 06/29/2010 7:05:08 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember

At least the malnourished 14 year old had some height compared to the kids he was fighting.

We saw Jaden’s KK and then watched the original on Netflix.
There is no comparison, even as much as I love Jackie. Mr. Miyagi was not a sour guy. Jackie was. The car accident didn’t work for me either.


21 posted on 06/29/2010 7:06:36 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: VRWCmember

Not since “The Passion of the Christ” have I heard so many sobs as I did at the end of TS3. The theater stood and cheered after. Walking into the bathroom with a whole bunch of women from our theater, we were all a mess.

When Andy said, “Thanks guys.” a man behind me sobbed.
When you can get the guys to cry out loud, you know you have a great movie.

Pixar rules.


22 posted on 06/29/2010 7:09:53 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: VRWCmember

The movie I have ordered for this weekend:

http://www.naplesnews.com/videos/detail/trailer-wild-grass-les-herbes-folles/

http://www.lemonde.fr/cinema/article/2009/11/03/les-herbes-folles-une-formidable-remontee-de-seve_1262124_3476.html


23 posted on 06/29/2010 7:11:02 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: netmilsmom

Haven’t seen the new one - probably won’t.
The original Karate Kid was very good - kind of a teenage Rocky.
KK2 was also pretty good - coming of age, learning the value of love and family and honor.
KK3 was bad. Industrial Capitalist (Segall wannabe) as the bad guy, lame storyline, overall waste of time.


24 posted on 06/29/2010 7:11:24 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember

I would say either “Don’t bother” or “Redbox”.


25 posted on 06/29/2010 7:13:36 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: netmilsmom
Amen. And Jesse LIKED his Spanish mode!


26 posted on 06/29/2010 7:14:51 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: La Lydia
Out of 1.2 billion Chinese, 1 billion of them lives in utter poverty that will shock anyone who witness it. The vast majority of the remaining 200 millions Chinese live way below the poverty level as we defined it here in the US. Most importantly the Chinese have no freedom and ruled by communists thugs. No nation with such incredibly large and shocking poverty and with no freedom to its citizen is going to be the future. China is way overrated and with time people will realize this fact.
27 posted on 06/29/2010 7:17:13 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: netmilsmom

I saw a survey somewhere last week to pick the best Pixar movie and the choices were Toy Story, Finding Nemo, Up, and Wall-E. Missing from the list were “Cars” and “Monsters, Inc.” which were my top two respectively. (My top three list would have been Cars, Monsters Inc, and Toy Story in that order.) Toy Story 3 immediately jumped in my opinion to not only the best of the TS franchise but to the top of the entire Pixar franchise. I definitely had a huge lump in my throat and almost had tears at the end of TS3. It was probably the most enjoyable movie I’ve seen in the last couple of years.

Also, got to see the trailer for Narnia - Voyage of the Dawn Treader before the movie. I CANNOT WAIT!!!


28 posted on 06/29/2010 7:17:39 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: La Lydia

Wow. Looks like something completely wiped out the city and nothing is left. But then again that’s pretty much what happened...


29 posted on 06/29/2010 7:18:26 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: netmilsmom
I would say either “Don’t bother” or “Redbox”.

It's probably on my "don't bother" list. We'll probably watch SyFy original masterpieces like "DynoCroc vs SuperGator" and "Ice Spiders" before we rent the new Karate Kid movie.

30 posted on 06/29/2010 7:21:13 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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This is what the unions and the last 35 years of incompetent and corrupt city government have done to Detroit. It is a crime. And from what I can tell, the people who live there, or the ones who remain, have no clue what brought about their downfall. Everyone in America needs to see those pictures. Somewhere Henry Ford is weeping.


31 posted on 06/29/2010 7:22:32 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: VRWCmember

I totally agree with you. And we were flipping out with the trailer for Narnia - Voyage of the Dawn Treader!


32 posted on 06/29/2010 7:23:02 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: La Lydia

a little artsy for my taste.


33 posted on 06/29/2010 7:24:42 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: netmilsmom
Pixar rules.

Best movie studio going right now (and the only one doing anything original - note this thread!). We have not seen TS3 yet but are going this weekend. My wife considers Up her favorite movie of all time and it's probably in my top 10.

34 posted on 06/29/2010 7:25:17 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: La Lydia
This is what the unions and the last 35 years of incompetent and corrupt city government have done to Detroit. It is a crime. And from what I can tell, the people who live there, or the ones who remain, have no clue what brought about their downfall. Everyone in America needs to see those pictures. Somewhere Henry Ford is weeping.

Yep. I just posted it on Twitter so hopefully a few more will see it. Tragic. Imagine if Obamarx and the Dems get their way. This will happen to the entire country.

35 posted on 06/29/2010 7:28:30 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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I saw a survey somewhere last week to pick the best Pixar movie and the choices were Toy Story, Finding Nemo, Up, and Wall-E. Missing from the list were “Cars” and “Monsters, Inc.” which were my top two respectively. (My top three list would have been Cars, Monsters Inc, and Toy Story in that order.) Toy Story 3 immediately jumped in my opinion to not only the best of the TS franchise but to the top of the entire Pixar franchise. I definitely had a huge lump in my throat and almost had tears at the end of TS3. It was probably the most enjoyable movie I’ve seen in the last couple of years.

They left out "The Incredibles", which is the best of the entire lot?

36 posted on 06/29/2010 7:28:52 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Detroit is the perfect example of why you cannot put all your eggs in one basket. Inevitably other places to build cars would emerge.

Detroit’s advantage was the location of the Detroit River, which made locating auto factories feasible. Of course, along with that came the polluting of the river, and subsequent restrictions on what the auto companies could dump into the river. So by the 70s, any competitive advantage Detroit had as an auto-making center was gone.


37 posted on 06/29/2010 7:31:21 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: La Lydia

Like it or not, China is at the beginning of a Renaissance.

With Europe and Russia in decline, with a resurgence of Spanish Catholic influence in the USA, with the growth of such nations as Brazil and Chile,the world is in a great state of flux.

China is the future. After roughly 100 years of containment in a shell China has broken loose to achieve some as yet undetermined potential. This is not to say that China will rule the world or even wants to, but the potential is being released upon the world and will bring bout great change.

Those who dwell in the past will be left behind in disarray


38 posted on 06/29/2010 7:33:14 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 Republicans punish truth while the 'Rats reward liars)
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To: dfwgator

Yes, they left out Incredibles, Cars, and Monsters Inc.

I would rate Incredibles right up there with Cars at the top of the list. For me, TS3 jumped past all of them though. I was pretty surprised that they chose Wall-E and Up and Finding Nemo as the choices to go against Toy Story for best Pixar movie.


39 posted on 06/29/2010 7:37:06 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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40 posted on 06/29/2010 7:38:15 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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Even “A Bug’s Life” was very good, although it’s rarely thought of as Pixar’s best.


41 posted on 06/29/2010 7:38:57 AM PDT by dfwgator
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I saw it. Honestly, if you didn’t see that it was a giant commercial for China, you had your eyes closed.

Imagine that, a movie that is themed around an Asian martial art form - actually promoting an Asian country? Wow, hard to imagine that. Kung Fu originated in China - not the USA. As the theme of the movie is based upon Kung Fu - it's not much of a stretch for China to take a staring role. It's almost like the movie "All the Right Stuff" being about America.

Making a romantic theme for a 10 yr old is a stretch, as at that age girls are still pretty 'icky' to boys. But, the point of the movie is to entertain. Were you entertained?

IMHO, one of the greatest atheletes in the world is Jackie Chan. I watch in awe as this man performs stunts that defy gravity, and how he gracefully performs maneuvers that would almost certainly lead me to the emergency room. Watching him dive between the rungs of an ordinary ladder - then use that ladder both as a defensive and offensive weapon is sheer genius - and athletic grace that is almost superhuman. I have to say that I'm VERY disappointed that he apparently plays a minor role in this movie - as he could easily have starred in it, and showcased not only his grace, but his training and abilities. Pity.

42 posted on 06/29/2010 7:40:18 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar

So why isn’t the movie called “The Kung Fu Kid”?


43 posted on 06/29/2010 7:41:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Even “A Bug’s Life” was very good, although it’s rarely thought of as Pixar’s best.

Yes, Bug's Life was pretty good, and makes for a really cool attraction at Disney World's Animal Kingdom, but if I were ranking the Pixar movies I think I'd have a hard time finding one that I would place below Bug's Life.

44 posted on 06/29/2010 7:43:56 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember

True, I think another issue was the confusion with the movie “Antz” which came out right around the same time.

But still a lot of funny moments in it, my favorite part was when Hopper said, “It’s a bug-eat-bug world out there, it’s one of those ‘Circle of Life’ kind of things.”


45 posted on 06/29/2010 7:46:40 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: VRWCmember

Artsy? It is fairly mainstream. I love Anne Consigny.


46 posted on 06/29/2010 7:51:02 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Heh heh.


47 posted on 06/29/2010 7:52:47 AM PDT by La Lydia
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So why isn’t the movie called “The Kung Fu Kid”?

That was actually my biggest beef with the movie. Calling it The Karate Kid is just wrong as karate has nothing to do with the move save a 30 second scene. My other biggest beef was the snake move at the end. That had nothing to do with what he saw unlike the crane move in the original. Poorly done. But it was very entertaining.

48 posted on 06/29/2010 7:53:18 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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So why isn’t the movie called “The Kung Fu Kid”?

That's a very good question. Karate is basically a Japanese art form, Tae Kwon Do is from Korea. Kung Fu is from China, and calling Kung Fu "Karate" is an insult to the Chinese. There is not a love between the Japanese and Chinese people.

Calling Kung Fu "Karate" is as generic as calling a "car" a "truck". The strategy involved in each fighting technique are totally different. Kung Fu uses continual graceful movement to deliver a series of blows - no blow particually powerful, but stategically placed to inflict harm.

Karate uses one's fully body weight and strength to deliver a devestating strike, a single strike is all it takes to disable an opponent (broken limbs don't work to well).

49 posted on 06/29/2010 8:01:35 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: dfwgator

Yes. Antz was terrible. Bug’s Life suffered some product differentiation issues because of that awful tripe.


50 posted on 06/29/2010 8:02:28 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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