Skip to comments.Combined Live Threads: Gen. David Petraeus and Elena Kagan Confirmation Hearings 6/29/10
Posted on 06/29/2010 6:57:42 AM PDT by kristinn
The confirmation hearing for Gen. David Petraeus to be ISAF commander began a few minutes ago. The second day of the Elena Kagan Supreme Court nomination hearings began around 9 a.m. They're on the cable networks for the most part. FOX, CNN and MSNBC are dipping in and out of the hearings depending on who's speaking.
The Kagan hearing is being shown live on C-SPAN 3 and online at C-SPAN here.
The Petraeus hearing can be viewed online at the Senate Armed Services Committee Web site here.
Sen. Jeff Sessions is grilling Kagan on Harvard’s DADT policy with the military on campus.
Gen. Petraues speaking now. Only available on the Senate live stream.
I have no idea why the gays think they are so oppressed. She should move to Tehran and see how they treat gays there.
Too bad Hillary is not there to tell the General that his confirmation requires the willing suspension of disbelief, or something.
Don’t Ask/Don’t Tell doesn’t ban gays from military service, does it? It just demands polite discretion.
What Are Those Democratic Flower Children Smoking?
Richmond Times-Dispatch (VA) - Sunday, September 23, 2007
Author: Ross MacKenzie
So now Gen. David Petraeus has reported on Iraq, and the question is: Are the Democrats overgrown flower children?
Think about it.
Even before Petraeus congressional appearance, key Democrats
were on the ramparts dissing the general most of them had voted to confirm as the Iraq theater commander - implying he is a ventriloquists dummy for President Bush, a liar , and worse. . .
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin, and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi - in a pre-emptive strike - implied Petraeus coming remarks were written by the White House, and so dismissed them as the Bush Report. Clueless Pelosi added: The facts are self-evident that progress is not being made.
Again, prior to Petraeus testimony, Sen. Joe Biden termed him dead flat wrong.
Sen. Barbara Boxer told Petraeus to take off your rosy glasses.
SEN. CHRISTOPHER Dodd declared that despite the Petraeus report of moderate progress since the troop buildup (or surge), he favors cutting off funds for U.S. troops beginning next spring. His presidential campaign spammed an e-mail declaring: The fact that there are questions about Gen. Petraeus report is not surprising, given that it was brought to you by this White House.
Sen. Barack Obama , noting the same false promises of success that got us into Iraq, said he wants to begin withdrawing troops at the rate of 8,000 per month. The only question about the lost Iraqi cause, he said, is how do we clean up the mess?
Sen. Hillary Clinton told Petraeus , The reports that you provide to us really require the willing suspension of disbelief. She found the administrations proposed rate of troop drawdown - to pre-surge levels by next summer - too little, too late, and unacceptable.
AND LET us not overlook two other manifestations of malign thinking in the fever swamps of the Democratic left:
(1) A Sept. 9 New York Times editorial proclaiming Gen. Petraeus has his own credibility problems, stipulated, inter alia, this: President Bush isnt looking for the truth, only for ways to confound the public. Or: Both Bush and Petraeus are liars .
Petraeus talking about ROEs now. Says he will “look very hard” at the complaints from troopers. Says he has talked with Karzai and other Afghan leaders on the past few days about need to bring full fight to the enemy. Says we still need to minimize civilian casualties and collateral damage. That’s about all he said on that.
As much as it would pain me to lose Sessions as my Senator, I do believe he would make a great Supreme court justice.
This whole charade just puts me over the edge!! What hypocrits.....OMG, how I loathe the Democrats, just evil people without a conscience!
I am equally impressed with Sessions!
Sen. Orrin Hatch questioning Kagan about the Citizens United case.
....saw this thread and had to jump in. I am watching Kagan....SHE IS LYING LIKE A RUG.
The rug on my kitchen floor, felt-backed and foam held doesn’t lie as good as Kagan.
I was very impressed by Sessions.
You could feel his frustration because....SHE’S LYING LIKE A RUG!
It’s got to be tough to sit and be lied to on national TV. Without, I’d add, going over and punching the liar in the nose.
Something I sure wanted to do.
She won’t answer his questions. Plain questions, yes or no type questions. She keeps dodging. He asks, “do you believe...?” and she keeps telling him what Congress determined. Like he doesn’t know.
CodePink protestors hold signs on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday,June 29, 2010, as Gen. David Petraeus testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee hearing to be confirmed as President Obama's choice to take control of forces in Afghanistan. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)
I could be wrong, but I'm not aware of other personal presidential and top WH legal counsels being in the hearing room, ready to advise/coach the nominee, in the past.
He wasn't seated so prominently yesterday, and per his past documented hardball MO, he might be there in the front row as a not so subtle reminder to some of the questioners.
She hates anything mentioned in the Constitution...she is in favor of moving to a moving alternation of the document over time to award special rights and privileges to the losers and un gifted at the expense of those who achieve. She represents a view that is totally at odds with mine.
Remember how Myers was roasted by both the left and right before withdrawing? Why so and not this crumb? Simple, the RINO’s have no backbone and some may as well be dummocrates. Look at the ruling yesterday where her alter eog voted and you get a great idea where this one is going too.
Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan is calling the Constitution a living document, saying its framers wrote it to last through ever-changing circumstances.
Her remarks in an exchange with Sen. Patrick Leahy on the second day of confirmation hearings touched on suggestions by Republican critics that she would legislate from the bench.
"Either way," she said, "we apply what they say, what they meant to do, so in that sense we are all originalists."
Solicitor General Kagan’s White House support team at the hearing includes White House Counsel Bob Bauer, Susan Davies (Bauer’s deputy who has been running day-to-day of the confirmation process) and Phil Schiliro, Assistant to the President for Legislative Affairs.
If they tried to bring out her feminine side, they failed miserably.
It’s 11:15 EST, anyone have a copy of the General’s opening statement? I would love to be able to read it, or know if the hearing will be replayed?
Now with Feinstein: “Do YOU think...?” and she answers “I think the court has held...”
Won’t say what she herself thinks.
Obligatory “Carpet Muncher” Alert!
(found this copy from a questionable link)
Sen. Sessions on CNN saying he is “troubled” by Kagan’s testimony today. He is not ruling out a filibuster.
If they don't filibuster kagan there is no reason to support the party as it currently exists
I've never seen anyone less qualified
At the end, Petraeus pulled rank on Graham by addressing him as "Colonel" and saying he looks forward to Graham serving (under him) in Afghanistan. (Graham is a Reserves JAG.)
The only thing lacking on these code pink gals is the tie dyed shirts and long stringy hair and a garland of flowers....what an embarrassment!
>> How can the GOP possibly confirm this woman?
Because they really don’t represent us.
They’d rather maintain harmony in the Senate than fight tooth-n-nail to accomplish that which sustains our liberties.
It’s still a question on which way Lindsey Graham swings, ... (both in and out of the hearings).
He got quite cozy with Holder.
Jan 28, 2009
Senate Panel Approves Holder Nomination For AG
Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said he supports Holders view that the country needs to interrogate terrorism suspects based on American values.
I am confident this new attorney general will have a balanced approach and I look forward to working with him. I know hes made mistakes and so have I, Graham said.
Tuesday, Jul. 21, 2009
USC to get new business building
Funds will come from leasing current building to Department of Justice
An estimated 250 Justice Department employees working in different locations near Washington, D.C., will be relocated to Columbia over an unspecified period.
Graham said U.S. taxpayers will save $42 million by having Justice Department employees working in South Carolina, which has lower costs than Washington.
It was almost too good to be true, Graham said of the plan. But it proved to be true.
Graham, a Republican, praised U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and Deputy Attorney General David Ogden, both of whom were appointed by President Obama, a Democrat.
I cant thank Eric Holder and David Ogden enough, Graham said, adding they offered their support for a leasing plan that was initiated during the administration of George W. Bush.
>> “Either way,” she said, “we apply what they say, what they meant to do, so in that sense we are all originalists.”
Well that explains it...obvious Petraeus didn’t give him the answer he was looking for. From my perspective it doesn’t look as though there is a date per say...rather a “process” which isn’t a withdrawal of troops. I say stay for whatever duration...better there than on US soil. Keep it all in the ME.
I agree. The problem is Obama gave everyone the impression we’d be pulling out come 2011. That has encouraged the enemy and has convinced potential Afghan allies we’ll abandon them so they don’t want to help us.
I’m sorry, but I’m not at in the least bit impressed with Petraeus. His philosophy on Afghanistan, IMO, is complex and ambiguous.
I found one of his comments about the ROIs to be absurd. He said (paraphrasing) that if troop are taking fire from a house, that they shouldn’t necessarily take the house out, because there might be “civilians” inside. That possibly disengaging or regrouping may be the best idea.
He’s wrong. “Civilians” need to learn that the insurgents they’re dealing with are radioactive and that hanging around them or allowing them to hang around you can be dangerous or fatal.
He’s going to “take a look” at the rules of engagement. WTF is that supposed to mean? If he hasn’t realized by now that they’re not working and they’re getting our soldiers killed, he is, quite simply, a dumbass.
This entire concept of trying to get everyone to us is ill-conceived and dangerous. It wouldn’t be so bad if it actually worked on a practical level, but it doesn’t work on any level. The Ishmaelites don’t like us regardless.
Now we learn that language purporting to be the judgment of an independent body of medical experts devoted to the care and treatment of pregnant women and their children was, in the end, nothing more than the political scrawling of a White House appointee.
Miss Kagans decision to override a scientific finding with her own calculated distortion in order to protect access to the most despicable of abortion procedures seriously twisted the judicial process. One must question whether her nomination to the Court would have the same effect.
Nothing like a real bastard of a big brother breathing down the back of your neck.
I can’t stand this “woman”. She is not only UNQUALIFIED, but she is an Ideologue.
I hope Dems remember THAT the next time we get a SCOTUS nominee, and we nominate an evangelical Christian who is a life long opponent of abortion and more than willing to uphold anything supporting religion and God.
Remember Kagan then you liberal slimes.
I found one of his comments about the ROIs to be absurd. He said (paraphrasing) that if troop are taking fire from a house, that they shouldnt necessarily take the house out, because there might be civilians inside. That possibly disengaging or regrouping may be the best idea.
WHY is General Petraeus even undergoing hearings??? Didn’t he do that already, just a year ago??