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Spy Affair Called Attempt to Discredit Obama
The Moscow Times ^ | 30 June 2010 | Nabi Abdullaev

Posted on 06/29/2010 11:28:50 PM PDT by saundby

... "The choice of timing was particularly refined," Lavrov said sarcastically, referring to the fact that the arrests occurred after Obama met with Medvedev on Thursday for a visit widely seen as the latest step in the "reset" of relations between the former Cold War rivals.

A source in Obama's administration said the president was not happy about the timing of the arrests, but investigators feared that some of their suspects might flee, The New York Times reported.

The arrests might have been spurred by an FBI sting operation on Saturday in which one of the, Anna Chapman, was given a fake passport by FBI operatives posing as Russian agents to pass on to someone else. Chapman instead turned the passport over to New York police, her lawyer said in court Monday. The police visit, if leaked to the media, could have potentially blown the entire FBI operation.

The Foreign Ministry confirmed that several suspects were Russian citizens, and NTV television identified two of them as Chapman and Mikhail Semenko.

The suspects, who are not accused of espionage, have been charged with conspiracy to act as an agent of a foreign government without notifying U.S. authorities, a crime punishable by up to five years in prison. Nine of the suspects also have been charged with money laundering, which carries a conviction of up to 20 years.

An 11th suspect was detained in Cyprus on Tuesday but released on bail.

"In total, 11 defendants, including the 10 arrested, are charged in two separate criminal complaints with conspiring to act as unlawful agents of the Russian Federation within the United States," the Justice Department said in a statement.

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The Foreign Ministry said in a statement that it did not understand what motivated the U.S. Justice Department to publicly speak in the spirit of "spy passions dating back to the times of the Cold War." It said the "unfounded" arrests pursued "unseemly goals" that contradicted the "reset" in U.S.-Russian ties proclaimed by the Obama administration.

Putin took a low-key approach to the arrests.

"Back at your home, the police went out of control [and] are throwing people in jail," Putin told former U.S. President Bill Clinton during a meeting in Moscow. "But that's the kind of job they have. I hope that all the positive gains that have been achieved in our relationship will not be damaged by the recent event."

In Washington, the State Department said Tuesday that the spy case would not derail "reset" efforts. "We feel that we have made significant progress in the 18 months that we have been pursuing this different relationship with Russia. We think we have something to show for it," Assistant Secretary of State Philip Gordon told reporters.

But Gennady Gudkov, a former KGB counterintelligence official who serves as deputy head of the State Duma's Security Committee, said the spy allegations threaten to upset the "reset" by tarnishing Russia's image in the eyes of the American people and could have been masterminded by opponents hoping to discredit Obama.

"Now millions of Americans will think that Russia was only pretending to be a partner of the United States but is in fact still going after U.S. secrets like during the Cold War," he told The Moscow Times. ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: 007; annachapman; bagdadbobalarussia; chapman; cia; coldwar2; communism; disinformation; espionage; fbi; jamesbond; marx; medvedev; news; obama; propaganda; russia; russianpropaganda; spy; spyring
What fun it is to read the Russians' take on this. Just like the old days...in fact, a LOT like the old days. Isn't that strange? ;)

More hilarity in the full article.

1 posted on 06/29/2010 11:28:52 PM PDT by saundby
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To: saundby

Someone should have given these guys some advice....it is not hard to “discredit” our idiotPOTUS......just ask him how competent his lame administration is in relation to “Have you plugged that [damned] hole yet, Daddy?”....=.=


2 posted on 06/29/2010 11:32:03 PM PDT by cranked
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To: saundby

All this to discredit Obama?
What a wasted effort!
Especially if you are paying attention.


3 posted on 06/29/2010 11:41:58 PM PDT by jongaltsr (It)
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To: cranked
It doesn't take much. He thinks we have 57 states and that people with asthma should use an "inhalator". Just engage him in an unscripted discussion away from a teleprompter. He will emit an incoherent stream of blather. Anything to break the silence and hear his own voice.
4 posted on 06/29/2010 11:50:33 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: saundby
Spy Affair Called Attempt to Discredit Obama
LOL! What idiots. He's discredited everything and anyone he's ever associated himself with.

Discrediting is the only thing e can do on his own with little to no effort.

5 posted on 06/30/2010 12:15:27 AM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: saundby
The arrests might have been spurred by an FBI sting operation on Saturday in which one of the, Anna Chapman, was given a fake passport by FBI operatives posing as Russian agents to pass on to someone else. Chapman instead turned the passport over to New York police, her lawyer said in court Monday.

Interesting. The white house said Obama knew the arrests were coming while he was meeting with Medvedev. "Anna Chapman" somehow knew the fake passport was a trap and while taking the bait didn't swallow it and turned it in to the cops. Wonder who tipped her off?

In addition to Medvedev being in the US, it turns out Bill Clinton is in Moscow with Putin at this time.

6 posted on 06/30/2010 12:15:38 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: saundby

The Ruskies always do come up with the best Dem talking points....
I think this shows that the Russians chose the defense that would appeal to the most people (obamabots); those who automatically assume every negative occurrence was ‘timed’ or ‘planned’ to make Zero look bad.


7 posted on 06/30/2010 12:38:14 AM PDT by ransomnote
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To: saundby

If they want to discredit him just find his birth certificate.


8 posted on 06/30/2010 12:59:20 AM PDT by Bullish (Been to all 57 States.... Or is it 58?)
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To: saundby

Obama discredits himself, he doesn’t need help.


9 posted on 06/30/2010 1:56:56 AM PDT by stilloftyhenight (Don't make me use uppercase.)
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To: saundby

Obama discredits himself, he doesn’t need help.


10 posted on 06/30/2010 1:57:21 AM PDT by stilloftyhenight (Don't make me use uppercase.)
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To: saundby

sad state of affairs


11 posted on 06/30/2010 2:01:56 AM PDT by screaming eagle2 (bama)
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re: “Anna Chapman”

oooh, she’s the hottie in the group from what I’ve seen of online photos..... mmmmm, she could be “the spy who loved me” -— imprison the others but release Anna to me for “house arrest”/probation, and I’ll make sure she stays out of trouble.....


12 posted on 06/30/2010 2:42:17 AM PDT by Enchante ("The great enemy of clear language is insincerity." -- George Orwell --)
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To: saundby

The main person espousing this theory would be the narcissist himself.


13 posted on 06/30/2010 2:44:41 AM PDT by John W
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To: saundby

Odd how the feds never seem to find any Chinese spies, when there are probably thousands of them. Perhaps they are so far into the pockets and souls of our “leaders” that makes the difference.


14 posted on 06/30/2010 2:46:28 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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ok, am I a terrible person for saying "not guilty" for "Anna Chapman"...? J/K

how about "guilty, but she can have time off for good behavior as a mail-order bride to some lonely guy in Podunk, South Dakota"....??

"Anna Chapman" aka "The Spy Who Loved Me"
15 posted on 06/30/2010 2:55:39 AM PDT by Enchante ("The great enemy of clear language is insincerity." -- George Orwell --)
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To: saundby
I heard that "W" called the FBI and told them to go ahead and make ZERO look bad.
Well, why not?
Everything else gets blamed on "W".

The only problem with my theory. ZERO don't need no help looking bad. He is lower than JIMMAH and sinking. . . . .

16 posted on 06/30/2010 2:56:58 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Eeverything Is Broken (RL Burnside) & Zero still blames Bush-So pour me another Tequila Shiela)
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To: saundby

Obama has already been discredited.


17 posted on 06/30/2010 3:37:32 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: saundby
Spy Affair Called Attempt to Discredit Obama

...an attempt to Discredit Obama discredit.

18 posted on 06/30/2010 3:42:21 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Who allowed the worst oil pollution disaster in American history and did nothing?)
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To: Enchante

She’s a hottie for sure.


19 posted on 06/30/2010 3:48:25 AM PDT by catbertz
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To: piasa

In addition to Medvedev being in the US, it turns out Bill Clinton is in Moscow with Putin at this time.

This entire story just keeps getting more and more strange by the day. I did think the same thing about the timings of the meetings. Either the entire RAT party is working with the Russians or they have not idea what is going on. Either way, America loses.

One of these days this house that obama is building is going to crumble to the ground. I think that the right needs to shift its primary focus on the media. If we bring them down we bring down the corrupt left. Total discrediting is what needs to happen.


20 posted on 06/30/2010 4:49:40 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (I ROCK, Guitar Hero said so........)
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love your tag!


21 posted on 06/30/2010 5:10:30 AM PDT by homegroan (Proud member of the Hoi Polloi......ILLIGITIMA NON CARBORUNDUM..... -that's 4U Dad!))
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To: saundby
Spy Affair Called Attempt to Discredit Obama

The one is displeased with this as he needs no help in this matter.

22 posted on 06/30/2010 5:45:57 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: saundby
The suspects, who are not accused of espionage, have been charged with conspiracy to act as an agent of a foreign government without notifying U.S. authorities, a crime punishable by up to five years in prison.

Sounds like a dangerous law to some politicians we all know...

23 posted on 06/30/2010 6:11:46 AM PDT by Edgerunner (Second Amendment Spoken Here)
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To: saundby

I’ve got news for ya: he is already discredited.


24 posted on 06/30/2010 6:30:57 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
The suspects, who are not accused of espionage, have been charged with conspiracy to act as an agent of a foreign government without notifying U.S. authorities, a crime punishable by up to five years in prison. Nine of the suspects also have been charged with money laundering, which carries a conviction of up to 20 years. An 11th suspect was detained in Cyprus on Tuesday but released on bail.
Cyprus? Uh-oh, looks like Ireland will have to kick out the Russian ambassador. /sarc
Arrested Russian spies used Irish identities and passports
Irish Central
Monday, June 28, 2010
One of the spies, American alias Richard Murphy, traveled in February this year to Rome to collect an Irish passport which bore the name Eunan Gerard Doherty and which had been issued in Dublin in July 2001.

He then flew on to Moscow and returned on March 3 with a mysterious laptop which he later tuned over to another Russian agent in New York.

In order to get the Irish passport in Rome Murphy was told to would approach a Russian operative and ask, "Excuse me, could we have met in Malta in 1999?"

"Yes indeed," the answer should be. "I was in La Valetta, but in 2000."

According to Moscow's instructions, the stranger then slipped the spy a false Irish passport, for travel on to Russia.

25 posted on 06/30/2010 6:03:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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