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Does Obama Know that Elena Kagan Is Pro-Israel ?
Commentary ^ | June 30, 2010 | NOAH POLLAK

Posted on 06/30/2010 5:21:51 AM PDT by RobinMasters

A little embarrassing for The One, wouldn’t you say?

U.S. Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan said her admiration for a former Israeli chief justice was rooted in her Jewishness and admiration for Israel. …

“[Aharon Barak] is very often called the John Marshall of the State of Israel because he was central in creating an independent judiciary for Israel and in ensuring that Israel — a young nation, a nation threatened from its very beginning in existential ways and a nation without a written constitution — he was central in ensuring that Israel, with all those kinds of liabilities would become a very strong rule of law nation,” she said.

She also admired Barak for personal reasons.

“As you know, I don’t think it’s a secret I am Jewish,” she said. “The State of Israel has meant a lot to me and my family.”

This actually puts Zionist conservatives in a tough spot. On the one hand, we have a rare defense of Israel from someone in the Obama camp who is genuine, well-informed, and morally sensible.

On the other, we have an endorsement of an Israeli jurist whose exegetical views would elevate judges into a position not indistinguishable from the philosopher-kings of Plato’s Republic. Obviously, she should be voted down. But still.


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1 posted on 06/30/2010 5:21:54 AM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters
Doesn't sound like she will make a good justice - is there a statement where she says "America means a lot to me and my family" ?

All this really means is that instead of quoting European law in defense of her mis-rulings, she will quote either the Talmud or Israel court precedents - neither of which have validity in US law.

2 posted on 06/30/2010 5:24:46 AM PDT by ikka
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To: RobinMasters

Ask Kagan what she thought about Rachael Corrie’s death-via-bulldozer in 2003 and whether the IDF was in the right or the wrong. There’s a question you won’t see asked.


3 posted on 06/30/2010 5:25:01 AM PDT by library user
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To: RobinMasters

I think Obama may be more focused on the lengths Kagan will go to for the support of abortion;

“A key event in the politics of partial-birth abortion was a report by a “select panel” of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG), a supposedly nonpartisan physicians’ organization. That report included this statement, which the Supreme Court found highly persuasive in striking down Nebraska’s partial-birth abortion ban:

ACOG declared that the partial-birth-abortion procedure “may be the best or most appropriate procedure in a particular circumstance to save the life or preserve the health of a woman.” The Court relied on the ACOG statement as a key example of medical opinion supporting the abortion method.

Here is the shocking part: the ACOG report, as originally drafted, said almost exactly the opposite. The initial draft said that the ACOG panel “could identify no circumstances under which this procedure . . . would be the only option to save the life or preserve the health of the woman.” That language horrified the rabidly pro-abortion Elena Kagan, then a deputy assistant to President Clinton for domestic policy. This is what Kagan wrote in a memo to her superiors in the Clinton White House:

Todd Stern just discovered that the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) is thinking about issuing a statement (attached) that includes the following sentence: “[A] select panel convened by ACOG could identify no circumstances under which [the partial-birth] procedure ... would be the only option to save the life or preserve the health of the woman.” This, of course, would be disaster — not the less so (in fact, the more so) because ACOG continues to oppose the legislation. It is unclear whether ACOG will issue the statement; even if it does not, there is obviously a chance that the draft will become public.

So Kagan took matters into her own hands: incredibly, she herself appears to have written the key language that eventually appeared in the ACOG report. Coffin writes:

So Kagan set about solving the problem. Her notes, produced by the White House to the Senate Judiciary Committee, show that she herself drafted the critical language hedging ACOG’s position. On a document [PDF] captioned “Suggested Options” — which she apparently faxed to the legislative director at ACOG — Kagan proposed that ACOG include the following language: “An intact D&X [the medical term for the procedure], however, may be the best or most appropriate procedure in a particular circumstance to save the life or preserve the health of a woman.”

Kagan’s language was copied verbatim by the ACOG executive board into its final statement, where it then became one of the greatest evidentiary hurdles faced by Justice Department lawyers (of whom I was one) in defending the federal ban. (Kagan’s role was never disclosed to the courts.)”

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/06/026643.php?format=print


4 posted on 06/30/2010 5:25:10 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: library user

I meant suicide-via-bulldozer.


5 posted on 06/30/2010 5:26:28 AM PDT by library user
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To: RobinMasters

I tell you, I have NEVER observed a leftist, marxist like Elena Kagan, who was pro-Israel. EVER.

It is antithetical. They always gravitate to Russian policy.


6 posted on 06/30/2010 5:28:34 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: RobinMasters

Funny, She doesn't look "Pro-Israel"..................

7 posted on 06/30/2010 5:29:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. He's just some guy in the neighborhood.............)
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To: RobinMasters

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/06/026643.php

“Unless there is some other interpretation of these documents that does not occur to me, it appears that Elena Kagan participated in a gigantic scientific deception. On behalf of the Clinton White House, she deliberately subverted what was supposed to be an objective scientific process. The ACOG report was certainly seen in that light by the federal courts. Federal Judge Richard Kopf was deeply impressed by the scientific integrity of the report; he wrote:

“Before and during the task force meeting,” he concluded, “neither ACOG nor the task force members conversed with other individuals or organizations, including congressmen and doctors who provided congressional testimony, concerning the topics addressed” in the ACOG statement.

This statement was obviously false. The federal courts were victimized by a gross deception and a perversion of both the scientific process and the judicial process, carried out, the evidence appears to show, by Elena Kagan.

Ms. Kagan has a great deal of explaining to do. Unless she can come up with an innocent explanation for these documents, she should not be confirmed.”


8 posted on 06/30/2010 5:30:29 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ikka

As a Jew I agree with you. She should be putting her “American” best foot forward and while she may admire Israel, she is hoping to be a Chief Justice of the USA and not be so enamoured with Israeli Justice Barak who was a demagogue of the worst kind!


9 posted on 06/30/2010 5:34:30 AM PDT by Netz
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To: RobinMasters
Does Obama Know that Elena Kagan Is Pro-Israel ?

Great. But it's irrelevant. The fact remains she, like all "progressives" don't view the Constitution as the source from which laws are interpreted.

10 posted on 06/30/2010 5:40:37 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: RobinMasters

It’s about the fag vote and abortion...Nice American girl!!! Yeh, right!! Values??


11 posted on 06/30/2010 5:41:49 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: ScottinVA

don’t view = doesn’t view


12 posted on 06/30/2010 5:42:56 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: RobinMasters

The trouble with Kagan is that, with Republican complicitness, Obama will shove another SCOTUS radical leftist down America’s throat for decades to come.

IMO, SCOTUS justices should be appointed for a term of ten years with an option by the president to renew their appointment for another ten years. After that - GO HOME!!!


13 posted on 06/30/2010 5:45:22 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: RobinMasters
I'm going to go waaaaaaaaaaaaay out on a limb here and say that she's lying.

As I recall, Sotomayor claimed to agree with the Supreme Court decision that the right to keep and bear arms is an individual right. Look how that turned out. These hearings are meaningless. The candidate says what people want them to say. That's all.

14 posted on 06/30/2010 5:45:43 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: RobinMasters

And Justice Sotomayer is pro 2nd Amendment...after all, she said so at her confirmation hearings..

But then Sotomayor voted AGAINST Chicagoans owning handguns....

You can’t believe a word a liberal says at the confirmation hearings. She could just as well wish Israel be turned to glass for all we know.


15 posted on 06/30/2010 5:45:48 AM PDT by macquire
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To: RobinMasters

There is more than enough about her that should trigger a filibuster, but not nearly enough GOPers will have the stones to do so. I predict, in addition to all the dems, the following repubs will vote to confirm:

1. Graham
2. Brown
3. McCain
4. Hatch
5. Alexander
6. Snowe
7. Collins
8. Grassley
9. Lugar

Anyone else care to venture a guess?


16 posted on 06/30/2010 5:46:54 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: RobinMasters

Why should it matter? And an associate justice on the Supreme Court, Kagan has no say in foreign policy.


17 posted on 06/30/2010 5:48:20 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Abraham Lincoln: For when it happened too long ago to blame on George W. Bush)
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To: RobinMasters
This is just a nonsensical post on Commentary blog; no writer for that fine magazine would produce something like that...

Since Reform Jews have largely abandoned Judaism, both theology and ritual, they struggle with the sense of identity. One of the "pillars" of that movement was support for Israel --- a collective Holocaust survivor. That's what Ms. Kagan has heard in her youth and repeats when cued.

Ask her not a blanker statement but whether she supports a particular action of the Israeli government, and you'll get a different answer. It's just like all Democrats: they claim to be patriotic but somehow no action in defense of this counry is justifiable. The same with the Reform "Jews" of of Kagan's generation: they all supposedly support Israel but somehow no Israeli self-defense is justifiable. All leftists are essentially the same and monotonous...

The poster on the Commentary blog tries to create a tempest in a teapot. Judging by some posts on this thread, he has partially succeeded.

18 posted on 06/30/2010 5:48:33 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: ikka
" is there a statement where she says "America means a lot to me and my family" ?"

I completely agree with you. This bothers me: I never sense that level of patriotism in Democrats.

"All this really means is that instead of quoting European law in defense of her mis-rulings, she will quote either the Talmud or Israel court precedents - neither of which have validity in US law."

Neither is a logical conclusion. You may admire Churchill, but that does not mean you will try introduce monarchy here, does it? Humankind admires Jesus Christ, but Christian Justices followed the Constitution; i.e., applied law rather than religion. Why do you assume that a Jewish judge would be different in this regard?

P.S. You also give her too much credit: only truly learned Jews know Talmud, and Kagan is at the opposite extreme: she is a Reform Jew, if any at all.

19 posted on 06/30/2010 5:57:34 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: RobinMasters

Then why is she working for Obama?


20 posted on 06/30/2010 6:15:58 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Democrats = authoritarian socialists)
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To: RobinMasters

the StayPuft nominee’s views don’t matter- Kagan is a good soldier and will do as she is ordered


21 posted on 06/30/2010 6:16:08 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: Non-Sequitur; RobinMasters

‘Why should it matter? And an associate justice on the Supreme Court, Kagan has no say in foreign policy’

Well, she would have a little more influence on foreign policy than your typical postal clerk.


22 posted on 06/30/2010 6:25:05 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Good night. I expect more respect tomorrow - Danny H (RIP))
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To: Netz
Israeli Justice Barak who was a demagogue of the worst kind!

Thank you.

Justice Barak has single handedly struck down Israel's identity as a Jewish state in favor of his definition of a democratic state. Here is an excellent review of his philosophy by Nathan J. Diament Director, Institute for Public Affairs Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America.

"http://www.jlaw.com/Commentary/JusticeBarak.html

Kagan's support for Barak's juridical philosophy means that she will stand for the internationalization of US law.

Barak believed that every human activity is under the rule of the courts. There can be no more infamous belief. This is profoundly dangerous appointee.

23 posted on 06/30/2010 6:27:57 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (He is the son of soulless slavers, not the son of soulful slaves.)
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To: RobinMasters

the House of Saud will immediately ask Obummer to reject her nomination. If not them then George Soro’s and the DC J-Street crowd will immediately scream that she is not qualified. We don’t have to work about our side striking here at this time.


24 posted on 06/30/2010 6:41:03 AM PDT by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world.)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Well, she would have a little more influence on foreign policy than your typical postal clerk.

How so?

25 posted on 06/30/2010 6:49:08 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Abraham Lincoln: For when it happened too long ago to blame on George W. Bush)
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To: Non-Sequitur

She is likely to be invited to Embassy cocktail parties, not the mailman.


26 posted on 06/30/2010 7:30:42 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Good night. I expect more respect tomorrow - Danny H (RIP))
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