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Robert Byrd replacement not immediate concern for W. Va. Gov (Delay by Dem to avoid election)
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 6/30/2010 | Lawrence Messina

Posted on 06/30/2010 6:08:32 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

West Virginia Gov. Joe Manchin doesn't expect to start searching for a successor to U.S. Sen. Robert C. Byrd until after the longest-serving senator in history is laid to rest next week.

Manchin says he's instead focused on comforting Byrd's family and staff, and preparing the West Virginia memorial scheduled for Friday for the iconic figure who died Monday at 92 after years of frail health.

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: 111th; byrd; cultureofcorruption; liberals; manchin; manipulate; unfair; wv2010
How convenient. If Manchin names a successor before July 3, there must be an election in November.

After July 3, the 'rat successor gets to serve until 2013.

This shows one of two things: either Manchin is a hack in the tank for the coal-hating Barack Obama OR Manchin is an idiot who didn't see the handwriting on the wall that Robert Byrd wasn't long for this world and didn't even have anyone in mind to appoint.

Either way, it shows Manchin to be a dolt.

1 posted on 06/30/2010 6:08:35 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

nah, he is just focused on comforting Byrd’s family and staff

yah sure

will the KKK show up at the funeral to pay their respects?


2 posted on 06/30/2010 6:10:27 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I suspect Manchin “appoints” someone prior to July 3rd at his peril...knowing how Chicago ‘rats behave....


3 posted on 06/30/2010 6:10:31 AM PDT by mo
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To: SoFloFreeper
Either way, it shows Manchin to be a dolt.

Manchin is a democrat. Dolt is a given.

4 posted on 06/30/2010 6:10:45 AM PDT by b4its2late (I feel so miserable without you; it's almost like having you here.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“How convenient. If Manchin names a successor before July 3, there must be an election in November.”

Yes, just another example of Dems thumbing their collective noses at the rule of law, and, in fact, democracy.

Shame on them!


5 posted on 06/30/2010 6:11:50 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
OK, I'm confused. On another thread, the text of the law seemed to indicate that the effective date would be the date the vacancy occurred, not the date the replacement was named. So, since Byrd died before July 3, there would have to be an early election. Several comments indicated this was the proper interpretation.

6 posted on 06/30/2010 6:13:53 AM PDT by Genoa (Titus 2:13)
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To: SoFloFreeper

My mother always told me if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all. So, for the passing of Senator Byrd, I’ll just say something nice.

Only the good die young...


7 posted on 06/30/2010 6:15:49 AM PDT by LeftiesBinWhinin (Term limits now!)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Either way, it shows Manchin to be a dolt.

But, a dolt with a "D" behind his name...ensured election regardless.

8 posted on 06/30/2010 6:18:08 AM PDT by JimRed (To water the Tree of Liberty is to excise a cancer before it kills us. TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The Senator died before July 3rd. That means there must be a special election. West Virginians, don’t let your rat governor get by with this lie!


9 posted on 06/30/2010 6:18:20 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Manchin of course is trying to avoid a replacement election but do not think there is a conspiracy to block the GOP from having a chance to pick up the seat, because the WV GOP simply has no viable candidate or party structure necessary to win a statewide election.
10 posted on 06/30/2010 6:20:29 AM PDT by buckalfa (Confused and Bewildered)
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To: beckysueb
And the Repubs/GOP are making loud noise about this, right?

...crickets...

11 posted on 06/30/2010 6:21:29 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, while you were sleeping the Socialists took over.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I sure hope the people of WV are smart enough and have long enough memories to let Manchin know how they feel about his subversion of WV law come time for his next campaign.


12 posted on 06/30/2010 6:21:44 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Genoa

I believe the law says when a vacancy is “declared”, not when the vacancy actually occurs.

Yes, the vacancy OCCURED earlier this week, but Manchin is soooo busy trying to comfort the widow Byrd, he won’t get around to actually DECLARING the vacancy until after the July 3 date.

If I’m wrong, someone correct me—but I believe that is the version the ‘rats are using to avoid an election in November.

They suck.


13 posted on 06/30/2010 6:22:12 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2543264/posts?page=42#42

The relevant statutes are at this link.


14 posted on 06/30/2010 6:23:01 AM PDT by Genoa (Titus 2:13)
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To: buckalfa

?? are you sure? I think WV has gone Republican for like three presidential elections in a row.

The reason, I assume, that they haven’t had any Senators that are Republican in D.C. for a long time is because Rockefeller and Byrd have been in there since Nero ruled Rome.


15 posted on 06/30/2010 6:24:06 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: LeftiesBinWhinin

Ha! That’s the best of lines....in this scenario!


16 posted on 06/30/2010 6:25:24 AM PDT by imfrmdixie
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To: SoFloFreeper

This is irresponsible. This clearly political action has no place. ANY reasonable person would have a contingency plan for such an aged representative on the shelf to act on when it happens.


17 posted on 06/30/2010 6:27:00 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Genoa
That's the way I interpreted it. The date the seat is vacant (considering all the Weekend at Bernie's tricks the Dems can do to determine if the seat is vacant) determines whether a special election is needed. I did hear that they might be able to "just miss" the date they need to hit to have a special election in November 2010, and then (for some reason I haven't discovered) the next time they could have a special election is November 2012 for the last few days of the term instead of having an election in 2011 or early 2012.

I haven't figured out how that works because Ohio usually has scheduled elections every November and May (or maybe March in presidential election years to get the primary in early) of every year, along with occasional special elections (usually to sneak through a school tax levy) in August. It doesn't take two years to find a normally scheduled election or even schedule a special election.

18 posted on 06/30/2010 6:27:17 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Gun control was originally to protect Klansmen from their victims. The basic reason hasn't changed.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2543164/posts

Another link where the shell game is discussed. The Washington Post appears to be trying hard to point out ambiguities in the law.


19 posted on 06/30/2010 6:27:52 AM PDT by Genoa (Titus 2:13)
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To: Genoa
On another thread, the text of the law seemed to indicate that the effective date would be the date the vacancy occurred, not the date the replacement was named. So, since Byrd died before July 3, there would have to be an early election.

That would be the plain, common sense interpretation of the law by all reasonable standards. The dems, however, do not feel constrained by reason or common sense. They will, like the Red Queen, define the law to say whatever they want it to mean. The only issue now is if Republicans will let them get away with it.

20 posted on 06/30/2010 6:28:36 AM PDT by Eroteme
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To: SoFloFreeper

Based on the contents of that article I’m going to assume that Robert Byrd is still dead.


21 posted on 06/30/2010 6:29:57 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Genoa

Per the National Journal, here’s how it works:

The governor appoints a successor, but because there is more than 2 1/2 years remaining on the term, there must be a special election. The governor’s appointment is only valid until the special election.

But WV law requires that any candidates for the special election be chosen in a primary election. WV’s primary occurred in May. The next primary election is in 2012. Thus, in November 2012, there will be two elections: a general election for the six year term, and a special election to fill the last few weeks of Byrd’s term.

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/06/filling_robert.php


22 posted on 06/30/2010 6:30:29 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: SoFloFreeper

The “widow Byrd” predeceased her husband.

The Governor must be “comforting” somebody else.


23 posted on 06/30/2010 6:32:54 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Publius Valerius
And I assume no one can force them to schedule a Senate primary between now and November.

24 posted on 06/30/2010 6:33:23 AM PDT by Genoa (Titus 2:13)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I think it’s the time of the senator’s death, not when the new one is appointed.


25 posted on 06/30/2010 6:42:43 AM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: Jane Long
And the Repubs/GOP are making loud noise about this, right?

They're too busy trying to think of reasons why voting to confirm Elena Kagan is "the best thing for all."

26 posted on 06/30/2010 6:43:15 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: SoFloFreeper
WV will vote Republican for President, but the GOP has had only four terms (Arch Moore and Cecil Underwood) in the governor's office, two Congress members (Shirley Capito and Cleve Benedict)and no control of the state legislature since the 1920’s.
27 posted on 06/30/2010 6:45:26 AM PDT by buckalfa (Confused and Bewildered)
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To: SoFloFreeper
I believe the law says when a vacancy is “declared”, not when the vacancy actually occurs. The word "declared" does not appear in the law. The word was slickly substituted for "occurs" in articles "explaining" the supposed dilemma.

The vacancy occurred the moment Byrd died and they know it.

28 posted on 06/30/2010 6:46:17 AM PDT by Eroteme
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To: Genoa

That seems unlikely.


29 posted on 06/30/2010 6:53:22 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: SoFloFreeper
How convenient. If Manchin names a successor before July 3, there must be an election in November.

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Yep, November of 2012 about 2 months before the Byrd term would have expired in Jan. 2013. Makes very little difference as I see it, appoint for the full term or have an election just before the term ends.

West Virginia Secretary of State Natalie Tennant (D) announced this afternoon that a special election to replace the late Sen. Robert Byrd (D) will be held in 2012, not this fall as some had speculated.

Calling the state election code an "interesting" document, Tennant said that because the filing deadline for this election had long passed that the "next" election for a special to be held was not November 2010 but November 2012.

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30 posted on 06/30/2010 6:54:00 AM PDT by deport
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To: SoFloFreeper
If I’m wrong, someone correct me—

He can't be comforting the widow.....his wife died in 2006 I believe.

31 posted on 06/30/2010 6:55:51 AM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: SoFloFreeper
The statutes that apply, others may also but not listed here:

WEST VIRGINIA CODE

§3-10-3. Vacancies in offices of state officials, United States senators and judges. Any vacancy occurring in the office of secretary of state, auditor, treasurer, attorney general, commissioner of agriculture, United States senator, judge of the supreme court of appeals or in any office created or made elective to be filled by the voters of the entire state, judge of a circuit court or judge of a family court is filled by the governor of the state by appointment. If the unexpired term of a judge of the supreme court of appeals, a judge of the circuit court or judge of a family court is for less than two years or if the unexpired term of any other office named in this section is for a period of less than two years and six months, the appointment to fill the vacancy is for the unexpired term. If the unexpired term of any office is for a longer period than above specified, the appointment is until a successor to the office has timely filed a certificate of candidacy, has been nominated at the primary election next following such timely filing and has thereafter been elected and qualified to fill the unexpired term.

Proclamation of any election to fill an unexpired term is made by the governor of the state and, in the case of an office to be filled by the voters of the entire state, must be published prior to the election as a Class II-0 legal advertisement in compliance with the provisions of article three, chapter fifty-nine of this code and the publication area for the publication is each county of the state. If the election is to fill a vacancy in the office of judge of a circuit court or judge of a family court, the proclamation must be published prior to the election as a Class II-0 legal advertisement in compliance with the provisions of article three, chapter fifty-nine of this code and the publication area for such publication is each county in the judicial or family court circuit.

Note: Code updated with legislation passed through the 2009 4th Extraordinary Session

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CHAPTER 3. ELECTIONS.

ARTICLE 5. PRIMARY ELECTIONS AND NOMINATING PROCEDURES. §3-5-1. Time and place of holding primary elections in the year one thousand nine hundred eighty and thereafter; hours polls open. Primary elections shall be held at the voting place in each of the voting precincts in the state, for the purposes set forth in this article, on the second Tuesday in May in the year one thousand nine hundred eighty-six and in each second year thereafter.

At such election the polls shall be opened and closed at the hours provided for opening and closing the polls in a general election


32 posted on 06/30/2010 6:57:26 AM PDT by deport
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To: SoFloFreeper
The day before Byrd died, our local fishwrap ran this story about Manchin's ambitions on page 1. Read it and tell me what you think of that for the timing.

My prediction: sometime after the holiday weekend, he is going to name a placeholder, probably one of Byrd's senior staffers who has been running the office anyway, to hold the position until January 1913. Then Manchin can make a seamless transition from the Governor's mansion to the U.S. Senate.

33 posted on 06/30/2010 6:58:24 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

People may say they want limited government, but they always vote for the pols who bring home the bacon. That is why government spending will never stop.


34 posted on 06/30/2010 7:39:25 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: WayneS

Sheets has probably been dead a long time and the other day the guy hidden behind him making Sheets hand shake died.


35 posted on 06/30/2010 8:06:55 AM PDT by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Your premise is incorrect. The Democrat Secretary of State has already ruled that State Law does not permit a special election prior to 2012, the regularly scheduled election for that seat. The law is pretty flaky, as alluded to by the SoS, but she said that she intends to follow it. When they plant Senator Byrd and when Manchin names a successor are not factors.

The only way to have an earlier special election is to bring suit against the SoS. Not sure that anyone will do that since Manchin may be easier to beat in 2012 than he would be in 2010.


36 posted on 06/30/2010 8:12:22 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: SoFloFreeper

Takes time to sell a seat. Got to beat the FBI wiretaps. Ask Blago what happens when you move too fast!!!!


37 posted on 06/30/2010 9:33:57 AM PDT by Midnight Matador (Take no prisoners)
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To: SoFloFreeper
I know how WV can honor him since everything there is already named after him. They need an attraction like Orlando Florida's newest one that just opened. It can be called “The Grand Wizarding World Of Robert Byrd.”
38 posted on 06/30/2010 9:43:10 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: SoFloFreeper
 

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39 posted on 07/01/2010 9:41:00 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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