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Victor Davis Hanson: Where Did the Tea-Party Anger Come From?
Pajamas Media ^ | July 29, 2010 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 06/30/2010 7:30:10 PM PDT by PuzzledInTX

Why is the Angry Public so Angry?

I think we all know why the Tea Party movement arose — and why even the polls do not quite reflect the growing generic anger at incumbents in general, and our elites in particular.

Anger at Everything?

There is a growing sense that government is what I would call a new sort of Versailles — a vast cadre of royal state and federal workers that apparently assumes immunity from the laws of economics that affect everyone else.

In the olden days, we the public sort of expected that the L.A. Unified School District paid the best and got the worst results. We knew that you didn’t show up at the DMV if you could help it. A trip to the emergency room was to descend into Dante’s Inferno. We accepted all that in other words, and went on with our business.

But at some point — perhaps triggered by the radical increase in the public sector under Obama, the militancy of the SEIU, or the staggering debts — the public snapped and has had it with whining union officials and their political enablers who always threaten to cut off police and fire protection if we object that there are too many unproductive, unnecessary, but too highly paid employees at the Social Service office. In short, sometime in the last ten years public employees were directly identified with most of what is now unsustainable in the U.S. The old idea that a public servant gave up a competitive salary for job security was redefined as hitting the jackpot.

The Tea Party is not over

There is another Tea Party theme that those who play by the rules are being had, from both the top and bottom.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: angrymob; bho44; drivebymedia; origins; partisanmediashills; teaparty; vdh; victordavishanson
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To: BastropBarbie

Victor Davis Hanson ping


2 posted on 06/30/2010 7:36:19 PM PDT by PuzzledInTX
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To: PuzzledInTX

*bump for later*


3 posted on 06/30/2010 7:37:42 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: bamahead; Extremely Extreme Extremist

Great editorial about the growing backlash against Big Government Progressivism that Libertarians have warned us about for a long, long time.


4 posted on 06/30/2010 7:38:20 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: PuzzledInTX

Sedition treason and espionage tend to piss some people off... even some democrats..


5 posted on 06/30/2010 7:41:26 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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bttt


6 posted on 06/30/2010 7:42:19 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja (Rebuke, Renounce, Repeal, Repeat,...)
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To: PuzzledInTX

Everyday citizens that go to work daily are getting pissed having to provide not only for their family but every lazy SOB on the doth and wasteful government spending, that’s who.


7 posted on 06/30/2010 7:54:23 PM PDT by 23 Everest (Zero, Glittering Jewel of Colossal Ignorance. Day 71)
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To: 23 Everest

doth = dole


8 posted on 06/30/2010 7:55:27 PM PDT by 23 Everest (Zero, Glittering Jewel of Colossal Ignorance. Day 71)
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To: PuzzledInTX
There is an anger that the law is now malleable. Creditors are bumped at Chrysler, violating contractual agreements. We hear of rumors that cap and trade and amnesty can be accomplished by administrative fiat rather than by law. Of course, BP is demonic in its Gulf performance, but where does Obama obtain the legal right to demand $20 billion in confiscated capital (why then not $50,100, or 200 billion?).

Supra national corporations + internationalist totalitarian elitist interlopers = neo fascism

"Too BIG to fail" - neospeak

9 posted on 06/30/2010 7:56:58 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: PuzzledInTX

“There is another Tea Party theme that those who play by the rules are being had, from both the top and bottom.”

VDH nails it. Hell hath no fury like a public scorned. Let us take out the trash in November and trim our sails for a Constitutional course!


10 posted on 06/30/2010 8:00:18 PM PDT by corvus
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To: PGalt

VDH expresses it well. It has become all too surreal.


11 posted on 06/30/2010 8:02:16 PM PDT by PuzzledInTX
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To: PuzzledInTX

Most of the elites Hansen is complaining about will be voted right back in to office.


12 posted on 06/30/2010 8:06:47 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: 23 Everest
Everyday citizens that go to work daily are getting pissed having to provide not only for their family but every lazy SOB on the doth and wasteful government spending, that’s who.

One of my favorite things used to be driving from my very modest apartment to a job I hated going past fat hogs sitting on the the stoops of brand new public housing. Meanwhile, everyone I know is having to replace just about everything in their hundred year old city row houses out of their own pockets. Then taxes are increased. On the way home you can stop in the supermarket and see someone gabbing on the cell phone and paying for baskets of food with their Access cards while you shop for the cheap chicken and cuts of meat. Why would anybody be upset?

13 posted on 06/30/2010 8:11:59 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: PuzzledInTX
the polls do not quite reflect the growing generic anger at incumbents in general, and our elites in particular

Probably because the general public is way too busy watching moronic TV shows or sports, to even know who the RAT elitists are, or what thieving bastards they are.

14 posted on 06/30/2010 8:21:15 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Who allowed the worst oil pollution disaster in American history and did nothing?)
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To: hosepipe
even some democrats..

Yeah, I happen to know the two who are angry.

15 posted on 06/30/2010 8:22:21 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: PuzzledInTX

VDH nails it. But personally, I’m just tired of being lied to.


16 posted on 06/30/2010 8:25:56 PM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: PuzzledInTX

We are entering the realm of the government beating down the people. There are not enough military or police forces to stop an uprising. They will be killed or desert to our side. Read that book ‘Unintended Consequences’ when people rose up there. And ‘Atlas Shrugged’ where people just walked away from their jobs and shut down the economy.


17 posted on 06/30/2010 8:27:03 PM PDT by BobS
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To: PuzzledInTX
OK FreeRepublic - Let's all shout it out together: "I told you so!"
18 posted on 06/30/2010 8:27:42 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: PuzzledInTX
VDH expresses it well. It has become all too surreal.

Yes, he does. Yes, it is.

19 posted on 06/30/2010 8:29:55 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: PuzzledInTX

Every time our country stands in the path of danger
An instinct seems to summon her finest first — those who truly understand her

When freedom shivers in the cold shadow of true peril
Its always the patriots who first hear the call

When loss of liberty is looming, as it is now
The siren sounds first in the hearts of freedoms vanguard

The smoke in the air of our Concord Bridges and Pearl Harbors
Is always smelled first by the farmers who come from their simple homes to find the fire and fight

LET IT BEGIN.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoW4aIRIa6A


20 posted on 06/30/2010 8:33:48 PM PDT by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: PuzzledInTX
VDH is one of my favorites.


21 posted on 06/30/2010 8:37:44 PM PDT by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
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To: PuzzledInTX
I've become very involved in the Republican Party here in AZ and this week we're opening up an office in our town. I'm putting the whole thing together and something very interesting is happening.

We all know that people who are involved in politics have strong opinions, but I've been AMAZED at the number of vendors and service people who have been coming through the door who want to talk and vent. There have been some from every party, but every single one of them says the same thing...what we're saying. Everyone is mad. They may be mad for different reasons, but they are really, really mad.

22 posted on 06/30/2010 8:59:54 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: PuzzledInTX
Where Did the Tea-Party Anger Come From?

LOL - Hillary gets millions of liberals to turn into yelling, mouth-frothing, blood-hating maniacs for years and years, utterly unable to even remotely explain their insane rage over issues they display complete ignorance over, and no one asks, even once, where all of that emotional violence came from.

But when people are told that they have to justify the value of their lives to a communist death panel, while at the same time three trillion dollars in burned in front of them, liberals are utterly perplexed as to why they are angry.

23 posted on 06/30/2010 9:49:08 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Hildy

Talk of revolution has not been this loud since 1861, when another man from Illinois occupied the White House. The Left talks of revolution to install a dictatorship and the Right talks of revolution to save the republic.

Should revolution go beyond talking, will it be an American type or a French type? My fear is that it is trending towards a French type, and that does not bode well - for anybody.

We have long been a nation divided by ideology and it is not getting any better. We must all be prepared for the worst; anything other than that will be a pleasant surprise.


24 posted on 07/01/2010 2:53:37 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; ...
...government is what I would call a new sort of Versailles — a vast cadre of royal state and federal workers that apparently assumes immunity from the laws of economics that affect everyone else...



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25 posted on 07/01/2010 4:19:49 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: PuzzledInTX

We are coming very close to the end game. That would be amnesty. They like to claim it is for about 10 million people. But that would not be the truth. It is far more. Out of compassion they will bring in their whole families that will suck up what is left of the carcass.

There will be no need to close the borders, they know it, and so do we.

All of these people will ensure the communists in charge will be in place forever.

Any real American will have lost any reason to vote again.

Americans will be the minority.


26 posted on 07/01/2010 4:46:19 AM PDT by dforest
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To: indylindy

In other words, making the ground ready for a new civil war or revolution.


27 posted on 07/01/2010 5:10:56 AM PDT by Biggirl (Pray for the people and animals affected in the Gulf of Mexico by oilspill. =^..^=)
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To: PatriotGirl827

Bookmark for later read


28 posted on 07/01/2010 5:11:51 AM PDT by PatriotGirl827 (Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on me, a sinner)
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To: NTHockey

I do believe that it will be an American and here is the reason why, people are FED UP with ANYTHING involving TYRANNY, PERIOD. THIS WILL BE a major house cleaning.


29 posted on 07/01/2010 5:13:22 AM PDT by Biggirl (Pray for the people and animals affected in the Gulf of Mexico by oilspill. =^..^=)
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To: PuzzledInTX

Bookmarked.


30 posted on 07/01/2010 5:14:09 AM PDT by Biggirl (Pray for the people and animals affected in the Gulf of Mexico by oilspill. =^..^=)
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To: PuzzledInTX

Wow! Very well written. Thanks for posting the piece up.


31 posted on 07/01/2010 5:16:49 AM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Biggirl

I don’t think the ballot box will work. The sickening part is that I don’t have much faith that we will do anything, or be able to stop what is being done.

It is almost bizzare for folks to worry about 2012 yet. Things are far from normal.

If amnesty happens, the GOP won’t have to bother fielding any candidate. I think the GOP thinks if they support CIR they will get some of the votes. yeah, right

What a joke.


32 posted on 07/01/2010 5:17:08 AM PDT by dforest
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To: PuzzledInTX
Victor Davis Hanson: Where Did the Tea-Party Anger Come From?

If you need to ask then you'll never understand. And most politicians on both sides of the aisle will never, ever understand.

33 posted on 07/01/2010 5:19:29 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Abraham Lincoln: For when it happened too long ago to blame on George W. Bush)
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To: indylindy

Please see post number 29. Thanks!


34 posted on 07/01/2010 5:19:48 AM PDT by Biggirl (Pray for the people and animals affected in the Gulf of Mexico by oilspill. =^..^=)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Well they will understand come November.


35 posted on 07/01/2010 5:20:21 AM PDT by Biggirl (Pray for the people and animals affected in the Gulf of Mexico by oilspill. =^..^=)
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To: PuzzledInTX

I know Obama is the catalyst and the current target, but is there anyone who really thinks that had McCain won the election, Tea Party would have no longer been needed and would have gone away? That government would not have grown, that deficits would not have been as massive, that any of the issues Hanson lists here would not have been just as big a bone of contention? Hanson’s blaming it all on Obama is a bit of a cop out. The issues that brought on the Tea Party movement are not 18 months old. They began building during Bush, if not before.


36 posted on 07/01/2010 5:25:57 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Abraham Lincoln: For when it happened too long ago to blame on George W. Bush)
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To: Non-Sequitur

compassionate conservatism was code word for socialist lite


37 posted on 07/01/2010 5:28:27 AM PDT by dforest
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To: hosepipe

Indeed.

I want my country back.


38 posted on 07/01/2010 5:29:06 AM PDT by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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To: indylindy

Which is one of the reasons why I don’t think much will change even if the GOP takes back Congress in November. The people who will be running it - Boehner, Cantor, McConnell - are part of the problem, not part of the solution. It will take several election cycles to get anywhere near to where we want to go.


39 posted on 07/01/2010 5:37:33 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Abraham Lincoln: For when it happened too long ago to blame on George W. Bush)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Then you mean never. I don’t think this country has that long as the country we know, unless something dramatic happens.


40 posted on 07/01/2010 5:43:54 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Non-Sequitur
The issues that brought on the Tea Party movement are not 18 months old. They began building during Bush, if not before.

Mega bumps

41 posted on 07/01/2010 6:07:23 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (George W. Bush was the last conservative democrat)
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To: PuzzledInTX

Spot-on.


42 posted on 07/01/2010 6:21:26 AM PDT by RockinRight (I can see November from here!)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Boehner, Cantor, McConnell - are part of the problem, not part of the solution. It will take several election cycles to get anywhere near to where we want to go.

Agreed. I remember the '94 Republican Revolution. I was ecstatic that the old guard Liberals in Congress and Senate had been displaced by Republicans, finally. Tom Foley, the Speaker of the House, was voted out! The second time in history, IIRC.

Roll the tape to 2000: we finally have the presidency, barely, and Clinton is finally gone. We can finally start to SHRINK the size of government. Uh-oh, 9/11! Our priorities change! The conservative agenda is on hold as expected for such a tragedy. Now what? Deficit spending, growing government, new department, a what?-a new entitlement-prescription drugs? War not going well, Republican corruption, Amnesty, deficit spending still - the conservative agenda got locked in the closet, for the foreseeable future.

When the Repubs get back in office, I have little faith that they will reverse the Obama agenda, for instance, health care. We could be screaming from the top of our lungs to reverse it and they will panty-waist-milquetoat-meely-mouth their way out of not doing a darn thing. Somebody wake me up from this nightmare.

43 posted on 07/01/2010 6:24:21 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (George W. Bush was the last conservative democrat)
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To: Non-Sequitur
-- Hanson's blaming it all on Obama is a bit of a cop out. The issues that brought on the Tea Party movement are not 18 months old. They began building during Bush, if not before. --

I think what he's pointing out is that Obama has intensified and focused the anger.

The recession, anger with Bush, deficits, the furor at Wall Street, unease with the long wars abroad -- all that put the American people into a restive, herd-like mood by 2008 to the point that they were liable to charge at any given target. Barack Obama, however, focused that anger by using their hoof-stomping to sneak in a neo-socialist agenda that he knew in normal times had no public support.

I also agree with those who predict "status quo" at election time. The same "leaders" will be in power after the election. Maybe not the same faces in Congress, there is certainly turnover there. But expecting the federal government to voluntarily contract itself is delusional.

And too, probably a quarter of the country is raving batshit nuts looney left - "democratic communists" if you will. And another half of the country is just along for the ride, ignorant (I don't mean that in a bad light, just that they have other "more important" things in their lives than the government). The end will be messy and ugly, and the end is inevitable. I do not see politicians suddenly developing humility and honesty. They are still holding the government out as somehow being "the solution."

44 posted on 07/01/2010 6:25:12 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: VRW Conspirator
-- I remember the '94 Republican Revolution. --

What a roller coaster, from that, to rolling over rather than shutting down the government. I knew, the day that the GOP didn't capitalize on the government shutdown, that the GOP was not serious about shrinking the federal government.

-- When the Repubs get back in office, I have little faith that they will reverse the Obama agenda, for instance, health care. --

They've already said they plan to keep parts of it. No demolition of the federal dept of education, etc.

The federal government can't collapse fast enough to suit me.

45 posted on 07/01/2010 6:28:49 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Tzimisce
Most of the elites Hansen is complaining about will be voted right back in to office.

Sadly, you are correct.

46 posted on 07/01/2010 6:29:35 AM PDT by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: PuzzledInTX

Bump.


47 posted on 07/01/2010 6:31:49 AM PDT by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: PuzzledInTX

the washington elite live high.

meanwhile, federal workers, state, county and city unions hold high salaries and pensions

at the expense of those who pay taxes.

unions destroy the work ethic, and always insist they’re victims.


48 posted on 07/01/2010 6:38:05 AM PDT by ken21 (who runs the gop?)
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To: PuzzledInTX

ping


49 posted on 07/01/2010 6:45:41 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Blessed Is The Nation Whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: PuzzledInTX
Plenty of Fire in the Minds of Men.

But will it be the kind that purifies iron and forges a reformation toward America's founding principles...




...or just the kind that burns down the village?
50 posted on 07/01/2010 7:34:20 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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