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American Atheist Editor: Christian Daycare is ‘Child Abuse’
Newsbusters ^ | 06/30/10 | Nathan Burchfiel

Posted on 06/30/2010 8:24:37 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

"He's got the whole world in his hands?" To one atheist, it's more like ‘He's got the whole world under his thumb."

David Smalley, the editor of American Atheist magazine and a self-described "civil rights activist," wrote in a personal blog post June 7 that Christian daycare "a form of child abuse."

"In short, by starting your child off in a Christian environment, you are heading them down a path of forced ignorance," Smalley wrote. "At least let your child begin in a secular world, and if he or she chooses Christianity after an age of accountability, then so be it. But forcing them to learn things as fact that you don't even know to be true is a form of child abuse: inducing psychosis with thoughts of good and evil watching over them, as if they are constantly being graded or evaluated."

Smalley further stereotyped and generalized religion-based childcare by suggesting "it's bad for positive self-esteem, and slows social development later in life."

American Atheist magazine is published by American Atheists, which calls itself "the premiere organization laboring for the civil liberties of Atheists, and the total, absolute separation of government and religion."

Smalley's post appeared on his blog, Dogma Debate. He also hosts an Internet radio show of the same name.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2hateful; atheism; bigot; christianity; daycare; farleft; hatefilledlefty; newsbusters; sickman; sickpuppy

1 posted on 06/30/2010 8:24:47 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
In one brief post, Mr. Smalley has given a pretty full outline of his psychopathology.
2 posted on 06/30/2010 8:30:55 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I doubt militant atheists believe most of what they say and write about the evils of religion and the church. They are emotionally and socially stunted people, for the most part. They just enjoy getting a rise out of people by being provocative; like your average maladjusted seventh grader.


3 posted on 06/30/2010 8:31:51 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
So then David Smalley should not send his children to one, and be happy.

Of course he is probably demanding more than that - but I'm not going to read his stupid blog to find out.

4 posted on 06/30/2010 8:31:53 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (We need to limit political office holders to two terms. One in office, and one in prison.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Another subversive who wants to take away our freedom.

I also can't help but notice that in every article I see about atheism or a particular atheist, every other sentence seems to remind the reader that the subject of the piece is an atheist. Why do they need such reinforcement? A lack of faith perhaps?

5 posted on 06/30/2010 8:33:43 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Wasn’t it Stalin who said “give me the children and I will rule the world” or words to that effect?

IMHO being raised by political Atheists is child abuse. You are taught cynicism is the natural state of mind for people and attacking anyone’s and everyone’s faith is a proper form of discourse.

To be raised in hate and intolerance must be the worst of all worlds...


6 posted on 06/30/2010 8:34:09 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The frog who accepts a ride from a scorpion should expect a sting and the phrase "it is my nature.")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Eff you, Mr. (aptly-named) Smalley. This agnostic is sick and tired of the likes of little you and your scurrilous screwing with the Christian culture upon which this amazing country was founded. The world is a better place thanks to Judeo-Christianity but I suppose you’re just to hip to recognize that. Or, more likely, you’re not very well-read in history.


7 posted on 06/30/2010 8:38:13 PM PDT by fullchroma (Bill Haslam for Governor)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I sure wouldn’t be in your shoes, when you face the Father...Repent and come back to YOUR Father!


8 posted on 06/30/2010 8:38:51 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"At least let your child begin in a secular world, and if he or she chooses Christianity after an age of accountability, then so be it.

We know where this clown got this pap, from God's enemy. But God says:

Raise up a child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it.

9 posted on 06/30/2010 8:38:58 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Dogshite Debate is it?


10 posted on 06/30/2010 8:40:13 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Free Nobel Peace Prize with oil change =^..^=)
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To: freedumb2003

I bet he was an on site contractor for Kim Jong-Il’s concentration camps in NK sure looks like it to me


11 posted on 06/30/2010 8:41:42 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Free Nobel Peace Prize with oil change =^..^=)
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To: richardtavor; DJ MacWoW; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

“Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe to stumble, it would be better for him if, with a heavy millstone hung around his neck, he had been cast into the sea.”

Mark 9:24


12 posted on 06/30/2010 8:41:53 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Amen!


13 posted on 06/30/2010 8:43:12 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Hey David send me all that evil money that says in God we trust on it. I would not like for you to be traumatized any more than you have to be. And while your at it why don't you go to some Godless country and see how life is there.
14 posted on 06/30/2010 8:46:37 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: MissDairyGoodnessVT

Good name for it, ‘cause that’s what it is.


15 posted on 06/30/2010 8:50:47 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: wideawake

Bring it, Smalley, you bigoted heathen. This is a battle I want to have: parents have the right to give their children religious instructions. This one goes all the way to the 1st Amendment. Go ahead, fake some standing and sue a parent. Bring it, baby. You will get smacked down by the Supreme Court so fast your head will spin.


16 posted on 06/30/2010 8:52:44 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (There is no "common good" which minimizes or sacrifices the individual. --Walter Scott Hudson)
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To: All

Yeah—how dare anyone teach little children to “love thy neighbor as thyself”!


17 posted on 06/30/2010 9:05:29 PM PDT by milagro
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Such pettiness considering the state of the country right now. He needs to be slapped by Betty White and told to STFU.


18 posted on 06/30/2010 9:09:17 PM PDT by csense
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Mr. Smalley: I used to think like you and like you I used to be an Atheist.

I used to brag to Christian friends that should I ever set foot in a church that God would send lightning to strike it. I was about as hateful towards Christianity as one could be.

Fortunately as a child my dear Grandpa and some cousins took me to their churches which planted a seed deep within me.

A few years ago that seed started to grow. I found out that God had never given up on me. He was just waiting for me to surrender to Him.

You are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG Mr. Smalley. Christianity isn't child abuse. Its pure unadulterated love from our Lord and Savior.

I thank Heavenly Father every single day for the seed that he planted and the person in my life that he sent to me to get it to start growing.

19 posted on 06/30/2010 9:25:28 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (A Dictatorship doesn't want the competition of God in the lives of the Peasants.)
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To: Minn
I suppose I don't practice my faith in the most conventional way, not being a regular churchgoer and not being devoted to the extent that some folks are. Or maybe that is pretty conventional these days.

But the atheists and “free thinkers” are something else. I remember several years ago at a Promise Keepers conference, for two days in August we filled up a 45000 seat stadium plus the field (and it was HOT down on the floor). Those who attended endured that heat because we wanted to be there, and to us it was worth our time, the heat, and the price of admission.

Meanwhile a large group of so-called free thinkers stood outside the event and protested for the duration, for what reason I still don't know. During lunch break an equal number of us went out to greet them and offer them some lunch, and engaged in some conversation. And it was funny - their vision of what was going on inside was nothing like the actual event.

I suppose there are some converts who have a genuine beef with one church or another, it certainly happens, but it was clear to me these guys had no idea what it really means to have belief and faith in God, and the sense of comfort and security it brings, and the valuable life lessons we learn from the bible and our religious leaders.

My testimony is (and it may seem weak to some but it is mine and tough if you don't like it) that because human beings are uniquely capable of willful and conscious acts of evil, it is good that we have adopted belief systems to help serve as a moral compass. In much of the world we follow the common Judeo-Christian theme and it serves us well, providing the punishment/reward incentive and a promise. Whether or not you want to believe the promise, whether or not God is real, if you want to believe in just the here and now and no hereafter, the rewards and punishments are real and in life they will enforce themselves with or without faith in God. So there is no logical reason to begrudge the faithful our observance of that, or to deny us the right to teach our children likewise.

And there are honest atheists, not motivated by politics, who don't devote their lives to preaching against religion because they understand that.

20 posted on 06/30/2010 10:17:41 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (We need to limit political office holders to two terms. One in office, and one in prison.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

He is in for a very big surprise


21 posted on 06/30/2010 10:55:06 PM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: DJ MacWoW

“”At least let your child begin in a secular world, and if he or she chooses Christianity after an age of accountability, then so be it.”

Or, at least let your child begin in a Christian world, and if he or she chooses atheism after an age of accountability, then so be it.


22 posted on 06/30/2010 11:17:16 PM PDT by Persevero (Christian American Patriot)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Is David any relation to Stuart?


23 posted on 06/30/2010 11:27:51 PM PDT by pankot
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To: proudofthesouth
Your post is a great encouragement to me.

Most of my loved ones are stone-hearted atheists, and you remind me to continue praying for them despite the apparent hopelessness of the task.

24 posted on 06/30/2010 11:39:27 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: Clinging Bitterly

Well, this ‘testimony’ is pretty much what a respectful atheist, or respectful non-Christian would confess in a candid moment: Christianity works at an empirical social level as evaluated quite apart from any theological tenets.

But as C. S. Lewis put it, either there is “pie in the sky” or there isn’t, and the question is quite independent of whether it is useful for political purposes.


25 posted on 07/01/2010 12:56:27 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: DJ MacWoW

How will they know what an age of accountability is if they never know right from wrong?


26 posted on 07/01/2010 12:59:25 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Utopia is being foisted on Americans for their own good.-- J. Robert Smith)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

And who wants to be subject at any age to a system of “good and evil” that was merely invented by a bunch of monkeys? (If there’s no God)


27 posted on 07/01/2010 1:03:12 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: backwoods-engineer

> You will get smacked down by the Supreme Court so fast your
> head will spin.

I wouldn’t count on that after the Kenyan Kommunist stacks the court.


28 posted on 07/01/2010 3:18:29 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"...forcing them to learn things as fact that you don't even know to be true is a form of child abuse"

(...cough...)

"Smalley further stereotyped and generalized religion-based childcare by suggesting "it's bad for positive self-esteem, and slows social development later in life.""

Yep,we can see the truth in that by the mere fact that in the last few decades,as christianity has been relentlesly attacked and ridiculed,the youth in western culture have grown stronger in character and become so much more well adjusted than any of those religious fruitcakes of the past ever were.

Mr Smalley,your crap simply doesn't line up with reality.

29 posted on 07/01/2010 3:37:22 AM PDT by mitch5501 (top of the world ma!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"...forcing them to learn things as fact that you don't even know to be true is a form of child abuse"

(...cough...)

"Smalley further stereotyped and generalized religion-based childcare by suggesting "it's bad for positive self-esteem, and slows social development later in life.""

Yep,we can see the truth in that by the mere fact that in the last few decades,as christianity has been relentlesly attacked and ridiculed,the youth in western culture have grown stronger in character and become so much more well adjusted than any of those religious fruitcakes of the past ever were.

Mr Smalley,your crap simply doesn't line up with reality.

30 posted on 07/01/2010 3:40:43 AM PDT by mitch5501 (top of the world ma!)
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To: SaintDismas

You know, there are no atheists in hell.

By the time they get THERE, they KNOW there is a God.


31 posted on 07/01/2010 3:58:05 AM PDT by fredhead (Liberals think globally, reason rectally, act idiotically.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

“by starting your child off in a Christian environment, you are heading them down a path of forced ignorance,” Smalley wrote.”

Wrong! “Train up a child in the way he should go:
and when he is old, he will not depart from it.”


32 posted on 07/01/2010 5:08:17 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: RoadTest

(Proverbs 22:6)


33 posted on 07/01/2010 5:10:25 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Funny that. How 'bout dem kids that had the "fortune" to be born into one of those "famous" atheist societies - North Korea, the Soviet Union, China, ....


34 posted on 07/01/2010 5:11:49 AM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Exactly what does he think children should be taught about morality? That Stalin, Hitler, Manson, Obama, and Pol Pot are neither good nor evil, just people with views on ethics that may differ from their own? That good and evil are obsolete concepts that should be ignored? That adultery, theft, and murder, and pride, envy, and avarice are old fashioned concepts with no moral significance? No thank you. My children will learn that God created the heavens and the earth, that Jesus died for our sins (but that sin still exists as it is described in God’s Word), and that we have to make moral choices every day on whether to follow good or evil. If he has a problem with that, he can try to use force to impose his will ... on those who cling not just to God but also to guns.


35 posted on 07/01/2010 7:08:10 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: fullchroma
This agnostic is sick and tired of the likes of little you and your scurrilous screwing with the Christian culture upon which this amazing country was founded. The world is a better place thanks to Judeo-Christianity but I suppose you’re just to hip to recognize that. Or, more likely, you’re not very well-read in history.

I agree. I'm an atheist, but I am still glad I had a strong Baptist upbringing for two reasons: 1) it definitely instilled a sense of right and wrong in me, and 2) if you don't know Biblical history, you don't know Western Civilization.

Those two things more or less made up for the nightmares I used to have about people being crucified and stuff. LOL...

36 posted on 07/01/2010 8:46:49 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (I can see November from my house.)
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To: Pollster1

His time would be better spent worrying about what kids are being taught in madrasas right here in the US.


37 posted on 07/01/2010 8:54:44 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (I can see November from my house.)
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