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Petraeus Gives Shout-Out to B-1B Lancer Fleet
Defense Tech ^ | 6/30/2010 | Greg Grant

Posted on 06/30/2010 10:14:12 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

Last week, we wrote that the Air Force Council, the blue suiters board of directors that advises the air chief, was considering deep cuts to force structure to meet aggressive savings targets laid out by Defense Secretary Robert Gates. One option they are reportedly considering is early retirement of all 66 B-1B Lancer bombers, last delivered in the late 1980s.

Yesterday, the Lancer fleet got a hearty shout-out from new installed Afghan commander Gen. David Petraeus. “It is a great platform,” he told senators at his confirmation hearing. “It carries a heck of a lot of bombs… and it has very good intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance capabilities.”

It can loiter for long periods of time in a combat-air patrol, using its Sniper Advanced Targeting Pod which contains a laser designator, 3rd Gen. FLIR and digital cameras that function well both day and night to search out insurgent movements or IED emplacers. “It is almost like having another unmanned aerial vehicle in terms of full motion video and so forth,” he said.

“So it’s not just a case of a very, very capable bomber just boring holes in the sky waiting to open the bomb-bay doors, it is also the case of a platform that’s very capable even as it is just flying around in circles.”

So take heart Lancer pilots!

Of course Petraeus isn’t just randomly throwing out compliments to aging bombers, he was prompted by Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.); the Lancer equipped 28th Bomb Wing operates out of Ellsworth Air Force Base in Thune’s state.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: 28thbombwing; aerospace; afghanistan; b1b; davidpetraeus; dfens; dfense; ellsworthafb; johnthune; lancer; mannedbomber; petraeus; robertgates; strategicbomber; usaf

1 posted on 06/30/2010 10:14:15 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; Mr. Mojo; James C. Bennett; mowowie; Captain Beyond; darkwing104; JRios1968; ...

Ping


2 posted on 06/30/2010 10:16:06 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Strong)
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To: sonofstrangelove

” ... aggressive savings targets laid out by Defense Secretary Robert Gates ... “

This Bush appointee is a treasonous wolf in sheep’s clothing.

Yes, in this case it is Bush’s fault!


3 posted on 06/30/2010 10:18:59 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: sonofstrangelove

BTTT


4 posted on 06/30/2010 10:19:43 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Setting aside some of the B-1B’s minor issues,

Next to Stealth and F-22 is one of the coolest Military Jet’s to be produced, similar to a Great White Shark: big, bad and fast.


5 posted on 06/30/2010 10:30:58 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: sonofstrangelove

The “blue suiters”, of which I have great admiration, need to be politely told by the American tax payers... SUCK IT UP and STFUP.

You bought em and made nice little careers and nice little retirements out of flying them.

So fly those pigs until the rivets fall out.


6 posted on 06/30/2010 10:32:53 PM PDT by NeverForgetBataan (Sure, you can forgive your enemies.......... But get even first)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Anyone who uses the term “shoutout” has a “screwloose”, IMHO.


7 posted on 06/30/2010 10:44:06 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: J Edgar
Gates is playing mandarin to the wooly Communists in the Administration .... who knows how many double games he's playing?

But this cutting is without a doubt the agenda of the "disarm America" crowd who, remember, did indeed kill the B-1 program once, under President Carter, and then Ronnie brought it back in modified, more-modest form.

So Gates could be fighting a rearguard action against a crowd of Benedict Arnolds and Quislings, or he could do us a greater service by resigning in protest over all this PC buncombe, reinforcing what Gen. McChrystal did in walking the plank.

8 posted on 06/30/2010 10:46:21 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: ntmxx
Next to Stealth and F-22 is one of the coolest Military Jet’s to be produced, similar to a Great White Shark: big, bad and fast.

The episode with Saddam during the fall of Baghdad, when the B-1's almost got Saddam and his boys with all their thugs in a west Baghdad parking lot, made a useful point to all sorts of unpleasant people all over the world.

If an American with a cell phone can see your sorry ass, North American Rockwell and Raytheon are only seconds away.

9 posted on 06/30/2010 10:51:45 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: sonofstrangelove

bookmark.


10 posted on 06/30/2010 10:55:12 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: ntmxx

You got to love a Heavy bomber that can out-run a concorde.


11 posted on 06/30/2010 11:06:02 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: lentulusgracchus

Yep He could choose one of your suggested paths: but if he is, as I suspect, a Corporate (as in Soros) bought player, then he will march forward with the destruction of US military power IMHO


12 posted on 06/30/2010 11:06:36 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: ntmxx
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the B-1 Lancer is one of the few "mainstream" US milcraft to still use variable geometry (I still miss the beautiful lines of the F-14).

And, like with threads about beautiful women, beautiful craft need pics:


13 posted on 06/30/2010 11:11:57 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The frog who accepts a ride from a scorpion should expect a sting and the phrase "it is my nature.")
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To: sonofstrangelove

It’s alway nice to look up and see one over Khost. Great airplane.


14 posted on 06/30/2010 11:15:31 PM PDT by MadJack ("Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." (Afghan proverb))
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To: J Edgar
If he gees and haws to anybody, it's to Manor Bush. He's one of Poppy's boys.
15 posted on 06/30/2010 11:28:03 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: sonofstrangelove
“It is almost like having another unmanned aerial vehicle ..."

Ouch! That didn't help.

16 posted on 07/01/2010 1:06:43 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: sonofstrangelove

It’s worth noting that the Russians have restarted production on their imitation B-1.


17 posted on 07/01/2010 1:09:44 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp

I really do not think they will be of high quality due to the state of the Russian industrial military complex.


18 posted on 07/01/2010 1:12:54 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Strong)
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To: sonofstrangelove

The B1 Lancer to me is the most sexiest big aircraft that I can think of for the modern era, as a modelmaker its on my winter hobby list, a really nice big kit.

I was at the Reno Air Races back in the early 90’s and saw a low to the deck flyby, one big impressive aircraft! Yet for its size I had a weird image of it capable of dogfighting.


19 posted on 07/01/2010 1:18:59 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: miliantnutcase

Top Speed on the B-1B is ~ mach 1.2 at sea level. Cruise speed of the Concorde was much higher, mach 2.00 at 55,000 feet. The Concorde would not accept a climb clearance above 29,000 feet until it was cleared to accelerate and climb to its cruise altitude of 55,000 to 59,000 feet. I believe this was for fuel consumption reasons.


20 posted on 07/01/2010 1:26:53 AM PDT by Zauber
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To: skeptoid

“Anyone who uses the term “shoutout” has a “screwloose”, IMHO.”

Someone should explain what the hell it means!


21 posted on 07/01/2010 1:35:06 AM PDT by dalereed (in)
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To: dalereed

Yeah anytime I hear about a “shout out” it automatically raises my hackles.


22 posted on 07/01/2010 1:36:43 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: sonofstrangelove

True but the point is the Russians don’t agree that the platform type is obsolete.


23 posted on 07/01/2010 1:51:21 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp

Thats true too.


24 posted on 07/01/2010 2:16:13 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Strong)
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To: lentulusgracchus

“...only seconds away.”

Thank you, enjoyed the thought.


25 posted on 07/01/2010 2:19:21 AM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: dalereed

Shout Out-A public expression of gratitude or recognition.
ScrewLoose-Crazy
IMHO-In My Humble Opinion


26 posted on 07/01/2010 2:19:22 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Strong)
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To: dalereed

Or ScrewLoose can mean not behaving normally.


27 posted on 07/01/2010 2:21:54 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Strong)
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To: Eye of Unk

“...image of it capable of dogfighting.”

Just think of it as a multi-tactical Cruise Missile that can turn and fight.


28 posted on 07/01/2010 2:29:52 AM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: Zauber

I think that Mach 1.2 is the “advertised” figure - the B-58 hit 1,300+ mph with 4 J-79’s - Mach 1.2 would be around 820mph

Of course the B-1 is triple the weights (empty and max) but its engines are about double the thrust.

Not fully-loaded, of course. But I wonder if it’s not just a little bit faster than they advertise (obviously).


29 posted on 07/01/2010 2:58:30 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Retire 66 heavy bombers so Zero can help his friends at Fanny, Freddie, the Unions, et al reap millions (billions) from the American taxpayer.
Screw Obama and his pals - WE the People want the B1B's to stay in active inventory and any Congress-critter that goes along with Gates should pay a heavy price.
30 posted on 07/01/2010 4:08:28 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73

I do not think that they are going to eliminate of the B1-B from the inventory. After General Petraeus ringing endorsement of the bomber it will be with us for a very long time. I think that the whole episode was just a trial balloon to see what was the reaction was going to be.


31 posted on 07/01/2010 4:12:42 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Strong)
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To: Psalm 73

Remember, B1-B are used in Afghanistan.General Petraeus cannot afford to have the plane missing from his inventory.


32 posted on 07/01/2010 4:18:12 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Strong)
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To: F15Eagle
Concorde may have been faster; but it had a much smaller bomb load. lol
33 posted on 07/01/2010 4:25:22 AM PDT by verity
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To: sonofstrangelove
One of the most versatile, lethal and by far, one of the most beautiful airplanes ever built.

Here is an article from Flight Journal, April 2005: Phoenix Risen: The Transformation of the Boeing B-1B that might be of interest. I couldn't find the magazine article with pictures, only the text.

34 posted on 07/01/2010 5:34:12 AM PDT by GBA (Resistance is Constitutional!)
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To: verity

lol


35 posted on 07/01/2010 7:47:32 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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