Skip to comments.SHOCKING: Kagan's Princeton Thesis Cited German Socialist Who Endorsed Nazis
Posted on 07/02/2010 12:34:17 AM PDT by RobinMasters
Elena Kagan's senior thesis at Princeton University, recounting the history of socialist politics in New York City, cited the theories of an influential German Marxist who notoriously switched allegiances to Nazism after Adolf Hitler attained power.
Werner Sombart was widely recognized as an academic proponent of Marxism and was once praised by Karl Marx's colleague Friedrich Engels as the only German professor who understood Marx's Das Kapital. During World War I, however, Sombart endorsed Germany's "heroic" war against the "capitalist spirit" represented by England. In 1934, Sombart published Deutscher Sozialismus, which advocated the "total ordering of life" as an expression of the German Volksgeist, or "national spirit."
In the introduction to her 1981 thesis, Kagan addresses a question famously asked by Sombart: Warum gibt es in den Vereinigten Staaten keinen Sozialismus? -- "Why is there no socialism in the United States?"
(Excerpt) Read more at humanevents.com ...
AND? Did she agree with him? The post shows NO indication of such. The citations are factual, no opinionated. So, why is this a problem?
BTW, being Dean of Harvard Law School simply means that she was perceived as being a good fundraiser. Other Associate Deans handle courses, academics, etc. It is NOT a position that qualifies her for anything like SCOTUS.
The fact that socialists endorsed nazis would be shocking to most people. That fact has not been forthcoming from the media in 50 years
Nothing shocking here. There’s plenty of REAL ammunition to use without duds like this.
I got an even better one for you. Benito Mussolini was praised by Lenin as the brightest young socialist in Europe back when Il Duce was active in the Italian socialist movement.
Kagans thesis is now out there? Where is the Usurper’s?
We site liberal and socialist ideas and policies daily here. Is that also considered SHOCKING?
Ladies and gentlemen I’m sorry. Either were going to get a flaming or latent liberal out of this pick. It doesn’t matter if the people we have show a united front we lose. I want the left to upset the apple cart so bad that only extreme moonbats will support them. I want the sheeple to wake up and if several shovels upside the head is what it takes then I can live with that.
Agreed, I am a Jewish studies major, and I am sure if I write a paper on the Holocaust or Antisemitism I will probably site Mein Kampf.
“The fact that socialists endorsed nazis would be shocking to most people.”
Socialist/Progressives, Marxist, Nazis..
They are all kissing cousins, and Kagan fits right in with them.
It isn't shocking at all. Nazis are socialists. Sovietism and Nazism were competing forms of socialism, hence the antipathy between the two groups. The war between Stalin and Hitler was thus a religious war between two Socialist sects.
Barack Obama didn't attend Princeton, to my knowledge. His wife's thesis is out there, demonstrating that quality of product is not required as long as the topic is sufficiently PC. (For example, IIRC, the second paragraph led with a sentence containing three major grammatical errors. And it wasn't just form...the content was weak, too.)
Sovietism and Nazism were competing forms of socialism, hence the antipathy between the two groups. The war between Stalin and Hitler was thus a religious war between two Socialist sects.
Trotsky said as much. He pointed out that the competing ideologies drew recruits from the same people, but the Nazis attracted people who still had something to lose and wanted to preserve their status, while the communists drew people who had nothing.
OH NOES! I CITED TROTSKY!
Hey, did you know that power flows from the barrel of a gun?
She is not very smart. Content aside, her public addresses are painfully crude and awkward.
I agree with you.
Um, what ? Was her follow-up paper entitled, 'Why is there no illegals in the United States ?'
He endowed a school which became adjunct to Frankfurt University, in effect a George Soros' style think tank in the mold of the 1920s, and it was staffed, I believe, exclusively by Jewish intellectuals which is significant because when Hitler came to power in 1933 these Jewish communists fled Germany. Many of them landed in New York City and became influential at Columbia University, RCA, and other institutions in New York City. Other practitioners of the doctrines which became known collectively as "political correctness" found employment in Hollywood Harvard and other places where they were able to exert, I believe, profound influence.
These are the people who identified the nationstate, the church, the family, the idea of objective history, as obstacles to the ultimate victory of communism and therefore undertook to popularize competing values to undermine these obstacles and clear the way for communism. So we have internationalism, atheism, the assault against Christianity, feminism, the assault against the role of the father in the family etc. we have also seen many of our great universities liberal arts and social science curricula virtually destroyed by various excrescences of political correctness.
Does anyone on the board have any insight as to why Kagan's thesis on the advent of socialism in New York City ends with the arrival of the refugees from the diaspora of the Frankfurt school?
My point was, not that the Usurper went to Princeton, but generally, where are all of his records?
Blitzkreig this nomination.
Filibuster for the sake of this nation.
“Kagans thesis is now out there? Where is the Usurpers?”
When the truth finally comes out about the Usurper, there may not be any thesis. I’m convinced that he was allowed to skate through his whole acedemic career with no requirement to do any actual work. We’ll see.
And by he way, the truth always comes out. But sometimes it takes a long time.
“The fact that socialists endorsed nazis would be shocking to most people.”
Soviet Communism has completely brainwashed a large part of this country.
There are those on the left that deny that “the left” is influenced by Marx/Engels etc.
Why go watch the new movie “Alice in Wonderland”?
We are living in it...........
She called the story of the socialist movements demise a sad but also a chastening one for those who, more than half a century after socialisms decline, still wish to change America ... In unity lies their only hope.
She hoped that the future would be marked by American disillusionment with conservative programs and solutions, and that a new, revitalized, perhaps more leftist left will once again come to the fore.
Kagan is, like 0bama, a member of the far left wing of the Demonrat Party, which means that she is basically a communist.
I totally agree with you. Have a great day and God Bless.
The idea was that all the attendees were smart guys and gals who were so intelligent there was little the university could provide them but discussion space off campus in various noodle shops, and that the professors could write booklets for them to read if they wished.
This is supposedly the primary reason Japanese industry "retrains" and "reindoctrinates" new engineers, accountants, management types in their fields once they are hired.
Eventually performance, not "smarts", counts.
I fear that Obama was pushed through top tier schools in this country on exactly the same basis ~ that he was considered a bright young fellow simply for having been selected to "be there", so formal education was not required of him!
orin hatch wants to stick his togue down her throat... I despise every leader of the repubic party... they are all corrupt and communists. ALL dims are evil and satanic communists.
Wasn’t there also some connection between Zero’s mother and the Frankfurt school?
I refered only to what was cited in the op’s link.
That she is/was/and likely always will be a socialist/marxist sympathizer/agitator is beyond debate! But the simple fact that she cited a german socialist who endorsed nazi’s is NOT the ammunition to use to attack her!
Kagan is a doctrinaire leftist with no more respect for the Constitution than Mao, Hitler, Castro, or Stalin would have had. She is a serial perjurer, an enabler of despotism, a true piece of human excrement.
When conservative justices such as Alito and others were nominated for the bench, the liberals viciously attacked them and made it personal. Yet when liberals are nominated, the republicans play this polite, well mannered, even aristocratic game. Makes me sick. I have lost respect for these wimps.
The fact that NAZI was an abbreviation for National SOCIALIST party would amaze even more. They are different names for the same kind of tyranny.
“The fact that NAZI was an abbreviation for National SOCIALIST party would amaze even more. They are different names for the same kind of tyranny.”
Excellent point. We would be better served to refer to them as National Socialists (rather than the shorthand NAZI) so that even the multitudes of heads full of mush out there can grasp that when you go socialist and totalitarian, there’s no end to the wars that the government can wage on its own people.
Problem: The majority in Congress and their dear voters rejoice in her! This is hope! This is change! Liberty, Equality and Fraternity!!
She has to be one of the ugliest human beings ever to walk the face of the Earth. I mean, I normally don’t comment on people’s looks but this woman looks like Gollum from Lord of the Rings.
Let’s face it: the only reason this “woman” was chosen is because she figures to play prominently in Obama’s plans to stack the court in favor of Commie health care.
thank you. Very well put.
Brings to mind the old saying, “Two of a trade never agree.”
Nazis are socialists. Sovietism and Nazism were competing forms of socialism, hence the antipathy between the two groups. The war between Stalin and Hitler was thus a religious war between two Socialist sects.
I think you may be right.
It is true that many of them lack intellectual rigor.
COuld you please give a reference?
This could've been dictated by the extant literature. If the period after 1933 had been already addressed, it would've been rather difficult for a thesis to be sufficiently novel.
Either that or it's somewhere in the footnotes of a great piece called The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele (which Goldberg cites in his book).
Thank you very much.
Well, hang on a second. I just looked through the section of of LF where I thought it was and didn’t see it, and I scanned the footnotes of the Steele piece and didn’t see it. I know I read it somewhere credible, but for the moment I can’t remember where that was. It’s possible I dreamed it or am confusing Mussolini with someone else (maybe it was Gramsci), but I don’t think so (80% sure).
Here’s piece in the Weekly Standard that references Lenin’s comments on Mussolini but doesn’t actually quote him:
Word got around about the young firebrand. Writing from Vienna in the newly founded Pravda, Lenin praised Mussolini for his uncompromising revolutionary stand. A few months later, Mussolini was appointed editor of the national Socialist party daily, Avanti!, and he proved he had the touch: Circulation rose from 34,000 to 60,000 during his first eighteen months. With a style that he called “electric” and “explosive,” he made a reputation as the leading popular journalist in Italy. His star was ascendant, and it was red.
The exact quote could probably be pulled up with some strategic googling.
There is no reason to tell anyone about what a scum she is. She will be a so called justice and there will be republicans that vote for her.
Our side, cowards all of them. Words mean nothing, actions do.
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