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Loss of Language, Loss of Thought (the dumbing down of America)
IC ^ | Wolfgang Grassl

Posted on 07/02/2010 11:48:13 AM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer

This is because all the teachers are female, and they are all looking to put a 14 year old nothch in thier belt.

Overblown observation, but between Unionisation and the sexin school its no wonder we are in such bad shape.


21 posted on 07/02/2010 12:16:16 PM PDT by Colvin (Proud Owner '66 Binder PU, '66 Binder Travelall,)
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To: ScoopAmma

LOL. Good for you. I do like texting, but I LOVE the fact that you are insistent about the WAY you and your daughters communicate. Wonder what tortures they’ll inflict on their daughters some day thanks to the way they were raised!


22 posted on 07/02/2010 12:16:38 PM PDT by twigs
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To: NYer

Although I don’t subscribe to all of linguistic philosophy, there is definately something to what the professor says. I’ve noticed that most of the classic works, especially those translated from Latin, displaly a use of language, writing and argument, far superior to that of today.


23 posted on 07/02/2010 12:16:45 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: T-Bird45

The ultimate admission of Grassl’s contention that the ability to think has been lost is the ubiquitous use of “ya know”. It is a placeholder in conversational flow which serves as a stand-in for “I’m not able to form a coherent thought at this point so please just empathize with my riff.”


24 posted on 07/02/2010 12:17:43 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Napolean fries the idea powder.)
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To: ScoopAmma
Really? On the cell phone? I could see enforcing that with e-mail, but phone texting? That is extremely harsh and quite frankly expensive. Oh well I guess you have your reasons. I want my children to write correctly but appropriately and realistically as well. BTW, I can diagram a sentence in a New York Minute.
25 posted on 07/02/2010 12:17:51 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: NYer

If you can stand the cursing, watch “Idiocracy”.


26 posted on 07/02/2010 12:20:19 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: circlecity

“I’ve noticed that most of the classic works, especially those translated from Latin, display a use of language, writing and argument, far superior to that of today.”

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You don’t even have to go back that far.

Much more recent examples of richness in expression and a thorough development of ideas, off the top of my head, would be Dickens’ magnificent David Copperfield-written as a mere popular novel for a very general audience, and the simple exchange of letters betwen John and Abigail Addams.


27 posted on 07/02/2010 12:21:38 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Fiji Hill
And the renaming of history, geography, economics, and civics into "Social Studies."

We had "social studies" in my high school, that was in southern Missouri, at the time a very conservative area, 1959-1963. We also had the other subjects that you named.

28 posted on 07/02/2010 12:25:07 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (We couldn't keep the commandments when there was only ONE!)
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To: NYer
Really great essay - thanks for posting it.

"Like" was chosen long ago as the spear-tip of the eduactional death stroke against American students. It's been a zipper handle that has been used to progressively undo rational thought itself.

The author ends by comparing the results to an ant hill - which makes me reflect that ant hills are blind totalitarian organizations, with working eunuchs, run by a queen.


29 posted on 07/02/2010 12:25:12 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: EyeGuy

No, you don’t have to go back that far but it’s interesting that all you mention would have been well schooled in the classics and in Latin. We gave up an important linguistic and intellectual asset when we abandoned the classics.


30 posted on 07/02/2010 12:27:01 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: NYer

Use this as a PS to my post #20:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaqaImebd1M&feature=player_embedded#!


31 posted on 07/02/2010 12:28:45 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: napscoordinator

No additional expense incurred just because of the length of the text. Unlimited Verizon family plan charge is the same each and every month regardless of the length or number of texts. Being realistic is spelling the word “you” as “you”; not “u”.


32 posted on 07/02/2010 12:35:19 PM PDT by ScoopAmma (We are led by the Resident -in Chief; aka part-time member of Webelo Troop 44)
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To: NYer

It is because young people no longer read. They don’t see their parents read. I suggest books for my children and discuss the books with them. Those I haven’t read, I ask them questions about (bad grammar, ending a sentence with a preposition - grin). We talk about favorite parts and lessons learned. Parents need to show their children the importance and enjoyment of reading by doing it in front of them . By reading good books, children get an innate sense of grammar, which helps as they formally learn it.


33 posted on 07/02/2010 12:37:07 PM PDT by keepitreal ( Don't tread on me.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Bravo


34 posted on 07/02/2010 12:42:03 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Need work. MBA, CPA, Black Belt. Diverse industry and cross border experience.)
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To: groovychick
It's like a total bummer that the nextgen has no wordage skills at all man.... All kidding aside my daughter reads alot and has an extensive vocab for a 13 yr old and has told me on more than one occasion that she has had to explain the meanings of the words she using to her friends(public school victims) she thinks its funny - I think it's sad!
35 posted on 07/02/2010 12:45:40 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Need work. MBA, CPA, Black Belt. Diverse industry and cross border experience.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The there and their errors I'll lay/lie at the feet of Mr. Bill Gates and his spell check machine.

Don't forget .. they're.

36 posted on 07/02/2010 12:46:05 PM PDT by NYer ("God dwells in our midst, in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar." St. Maximilian Kolbe)
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To: NYer

Can’t we do anything right anymore!!!???


37 posted on 07/02/2010 12:50:12 PM PDT by erod
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To: groovychick
It's like a total bummer that the nextgen has no wordage skills at all man....

That would be "skillz."

38 posted on 07/02/2010 12:50:20 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: napscoordinator
This word has been used in slang since at least the 80’s.

I first became aware of this usage in the 1950s. And I suspect it was not new even then.

39 posted on 07/02/2010 12:52:18 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: NYer

“speechless consumers of canned content”..

Precisely the cause. Thanks for posting this brilliant article.


40 posted on 07/02/2010 12:54:04 PM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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