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The liberals' favorite Klansman
NY Post ^ | July 3, 2010 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 07/03/2010 2:21:06 AM PDT by Scanian

It is a good rule of thumb not to speak ill of the dead. But what to do when a man is celebrated beyond the limits of decorum or common sense?

Robert Byrd, the longest-serving member of the Senate in American history, died Monday. It was truly a remarkable career. But what's more remarkable is how he has been lionized by the champions of liberalism.

On Thursday, Byrd's colleagues took the unusual step of honoring him with a special service on the Senate floor, where he would lay in repose -- with some irony -- on the Lincoln Catafalque, the bier used to hold the slain body of the president who freed the slaves. The irony stems from the fact that for much of Byrd's life, his allegiances were with Lincoln's opponents in that effort

Not long ago, the assembled forces of liberalism were convinced that the Senate was "broken," that the anachronistic filibuster impeded progress. The Senate itself, with its arcane rules and procedures, had become undemocratic and was in need of vital reform, according to all of the usual voices.

John Podesta, president of the Center for American Progress and a sort of archbishop of liberalism, drew on his deep command of political theory and social science to explain that the US political system "sucks," in significant part due to the unwieldiness of the Senate.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: byrd; congress; filibuster; race; segregation; senaterules; whitesupremacy

1 posted on 07/03/2010 2:21:09 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Finally, the old Segregationists such as Robert Byrd and Strom Thurmond and the country can move on away from their evil agendas.


2 posted on 07/03/2010 2:28:07 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

How funny! Watching the ceremony here on C-Span at 2:30 in the morning. The introduction of the Resident and the co-Resident were overshadowed by the introduction of WJC. I can only imagine the anger felt by Bambro having been upstaged by the blue-dress man. Vicki Kennedy indulged us with a far and then recent recitation of the KKK brother’s life. She must have looked past his faults the same as she did Teddy’s. I am not sure what Byrd’s favorite swimming stroke was but I am sure that Teddy’s was the breaststroke. I guess I didn’t really gain any information about this stellar human being. Maybe I can read about it tomorrow in the paper.


3 posted on 07/03/2010 2:35:36 AM PDT by ScoopAmma (We are led by the Resident -in Chief; aka part-time member of Webelo Troop 44)
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To: trumandogz
Ok, let's not speak ill.... Just let the libs know two of the least 'best and brightest' dim bulbs are gone and hopefully with the 2010 election more will be removed from office.

Just my two cents...

4 posted on 07/03/2010 2:39:11 AM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: trumandogz

Evail prevails. Nan is up.


5 posted on 07/03/2010 2:43:16 AM PDT by ScoopAmma (We are led by the Resident -in Chief; aka part-time member of Webelo Troop 44)
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To: Scanian

Should I excommunicate myself or will I be struck by lightning? Nan has a piece of coal from her father’s office sitting on a tray from Robert and Irma. If I never respond again take comfort that my passing was painless. I can read lips but muted the volume well before she cursed me with her shameful “amen”.


6 posted on 07/03/2010 2:49:30 AM PDT by ScoopAmma (We are led by the Resident -in Chief; aka part-time member of Webelo Troop 44)
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To: Scanian

The hypocracy in all this is just stunning. If this had been a Republican, they would have wanted his body thrown in the city dump. I’m surprised they didn’t want to bury the old Byrd in Arlington Cemetery.


7 posted on 07/03/2010 2:49:56 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: ScoopAmma

I had the TV muted but I saw Harry Reid hold up a copy of the Constitution. I’m surprised it didn’t burn his evil fingers.


8 posted on 07/03/2010 2:52:43 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: beckysueb

We could give give an interesting narrative! Harry has quoted so many times I ran out of fingers. All congressmen aspire to become part of the appropriations committee. This is prime time stuff.


9 posted on 07/03/2010 2:56:43 AM PDT by ScoopAmma (We are led by the Resident -in Chief; aka part-time member of Webelo Troop 44)
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To: Scanian
"It is a good rule of thumb not to speak ill of the dead."

I've never understood that rule. If a person has intentionally hurt others or has been purposefully a detriment to society, why can't I say so once they're dead? We all die. What, because you're in the ground, I'm suppose to have some new found respect for you? Really?

If the person was bad during his lifetime, why should we not be honest about them just because they succumbed to the natural way of life? Should we not talk "ill" of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, the local dead gang banger, the rapist, the murderer, the child molester?

Frig them. If they were bad souls in life, then I get to say so and make no apologies.

And yes, I'm being judgmental. Oh no, the liberals say I shouldn't judge...what a hippie crock. We make judgments and discriminate every day in what we eat, in what we wear, in what movie we watch, in what music we listen to, et al. Sheesh, American Idol is about "judging", as it should be for new talent.

I'm perfectly fine with talking bad about those who have died and led a bad life. I also have no problem with wishing many would just die and leave us alone.

However, as Veteran and Patriot Guard Rider, I also honor those who have died while contributing. Again, I judge. My judgment is that those who have sacrificed are worth my admiration.

With due respect.

10 posted on 07/03/2010 2:58:23 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever!)
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To: beckysueb

The dryer just buzzed. Do I just iron with steam or is startch needed?


11 posted on 07/03/2010 2:59:40 AM PDT by ScoopAmma (We are led by the Resident -in Chief; aka part-time member of Webelo Troop 44)
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To: A Navy Vet

This adage (which I think makes the point that there is no sense in keeping up a quarrel with a dead person) surely was not intended for lionized notorious figures, whose pumped up legends continue to touch many lives after they are gone. The Byrd had no ordinary life — no Congresscritter does, but most especially him.


12 posted on 07/03/2010 3:06:04 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: A Navy Vet

Good God. WJC just referred to his “clan loyalty”. Did he mean “klan loyalty”? And now I find out from Dress Stain that Byrd had attention deficit disorder. This is too much. I had two beers but I should have had scotch.


13 posted on 07/03/2010 3:14:55 AM PDT by ScoopAmma (We are led by the Resident -in Chief; aka part-time member of Webelo Troop 44)
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To: ScoopAmma
"Good God. WJC just referred to his “clan loyalty”. Did he mean “klan loyalty”?

He meant "clan" with a C.

Excerpt from his remarks-

"The family feeling, the clan loyalty, the fanatic independence. The desire for a hand up, not a hand out. The willingness to fight when put into a corner. That has often got the people from whom Senator Byrd and I sprang in trouble. Because we didn't keep learning and growing and understanding that all the African-Americans who have been left out and

left down and lived for going to church and lived to see their kids get a better deal, and have their children sign up for the military when they're needed. They're just like we are.

http://www.wvgazette.com/News/201007020634

14 posted on 07/03/2010 3:54:38 AM PDT by Mila (I)
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To: Scanian

I despised Byrd’s brand of liberal, corrupt, pork politics. Having said that, it’s a fact of human nature and Christian experience that people can and do CHANGE. None of us has a window into his soul and only God knows what was truly in his heart. However, to continually and obsessively judge a man on the basis of terrible things done 50 years ago and for which he has expressed and admitted deep regret, after a point makes us a little too “holier than thou” and judgmental. Look at the terrible and sinful lives of many who eventually even became saints. As Oscar Wilde said, “Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.”


15 posted on 07/03/2010 3:59:14 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: Scanian

Nothing remarkable at all about Byrd. The guy was a parasite who never had a job.


16 posted on 07/03/2010 4:05:42 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: ScoopAmma

Just hang the stuff up. To heck with the ironing.


17 posted on 07/03/2010 4:07:37 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: Scanian

This is funny...the entire South was KKK country. They held slaves and burned cross’. Why is this a surprise. Today it has gotten a bit better. The North provided safety for those mistreated.


18 posted on 07/03/2010 4:07:51 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

So the north didn’t mistreat their slaves?


19 posted on 07/03/2010 4:10:11 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: beckysueb

Good Lord no. They provided safety and gave them a place to stay and something to eat.


20 posted on 07/03/2010 4:12:30 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: beckysueb

1820’s: The “Underground Railroad” began as an informal network of safe houses which helped runaway slaves escape to freedom It was mainly organized by Quakers and Mennonites. 2 “It existed rather openly in the North. The Underground Railroad, where it existed, offered local service to runaway slaves, assisting them from one point to another.” 3 Harriet Tubman (circa 1820 - 1913), a black abolitionist, walked to freedom. Then she returned 19 times into slave territory and led over 300 individuals, including her family and relatives, out of slavery. Lucretia Mott was a Quaker abolitionist who harbored runaways slaves in her Philadelphia home.

You have to admit that they did good work in the North with regards to this subject. Proof is provided above.


21 posted on 07/03/2010 4:17:50 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

Bull. The North held slaves, too. It was only durring after the war while history was being rewrote that the idea that the north didn’t own slaves was invented. I don’t want to refight the Civil War, and I believe that slavery is very wrong but this idea that the south mistreated their slaves is mostly a myth. They were considered property and you take care of your property. Of course there were always exceptions. I know its just bad to own another human being but we’re talking about the ninteenth century here.


22 posted on 07/03/2010 4:19:41 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: napscoordinator
The North provided safety for those mistreated.

Would you be interested in purchasing a bridge that connects Brooklyn with New York City?

You could charge tolls and everything.

23 posted on 07/03/2010 4:29:12 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: napscoordinator

The KKK killed a lot of white people too but we don’t hear much about that just wouldn’t be PC.


24 posted on 07/03/2010 4:40:19 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: A Navy Vet

Well said!


25 posted on 07/03/2010 4:53:17 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: beckysueb
Did you hear all those at the service wildly applaud Bill Clinton when he said that Byrd joined the Klan just to get elected? The whitewashing of history has begun!
26 posted on 07/03/2010 5:40:44 AM PDT by mfish13 ( Bubba is in the Klan)
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To: Scanian

One need not have to speak ill of departed Senator Robert Byrd. Fact is: For all the ballyhoo about his passing, the country and the American people could care less. The same goes for the passing of Teddy Kennedy, the supposed “Lion of the Senate”. Truth be known, these folks and others like them are really passe, their time and usefullness has long passed and....so, really not many folks give a darn, one way or the other!!!


27 posted on 07/03/2010 5:47:06 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: napscoordinator

So when did Indiana become part of the South? It was a hotbed of Klan activity in the earlier part of the 20th century. And I say this as someone who grew up in the Hoosier state and still has most of her family there.

I’ve lived both in the northern and southern states (currently residing in Arkansas) over the course of my 37 years. I’ve seen the good and the bad of all of them, but they’re all American. It has become a childish pasttime on FR to play this ‘but the South did this’ and ‘Lincoln did that’ game. Yes, I’m sure they both did, but it’s called HISTORY. We learn from it, remember it, and move on with history in mind.

FWIW, my father moved down South after my parents’ divorce in the 80s as his job dictated. He spent the last 10 years of his life in Florida and Georgia. He loved living there with everything he had, but he sure missed White Castles ;)


28 posted on 07/03/2010 5:56:47 AM PDT by Hoosier Catholic Momma (Arkansas resident of Hoosier upbringing--Yankee with a southern twang)
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To: mfish13

I had the TV on mute but I heard the media gushing about what a great reception Clinton got. I think his nickname from the left is the Big Dog. Imagine that. The Big Dog and The Crazed Sex Poodle. Quite a pair of dogs they were.


29 posted on 07/03/2010 6:59:31 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: Scanian

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/6209667-robert-c-byrd-child-of-the-appalachian-klansman-late-sen-robert-c-byrd


30 posted on 07/03/2010 7:36:42 AM PDT by Clintons-B-Gone
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To: ScoopAmma

Yes, I noticed him say “clan loyalty” as well as discuss his past in the KKK. I dont believe he was trying to justify his past, but did it to humiliate a guy who went against Hillary in 2008. Clinton does everything to polish his legacy and has many grudges against Dems.


31 posted on 07/03/2010 10:23:21 AM PDT by MiltonFriedmanFan
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To: beckysueb

“I saw Harry Reid hold up a copy of the Constitution.”

What you saw was only the cover.... there are no pages within his copy.


32 posted on 07/03/2010 11:12:39 AM PDT by Gator113 (OBAMA IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.. IMPEACH OBAMA NOW..)
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To: Scanian

They say he was dyslexic. So he wasn’t really a member of the KKK.
He was a member of the KKK.


33 posted on 07/06/2010 2:43:33 PM PDT by amutr22
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