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Iran Remembers Victims Of Airliner Shot Down By US
Associated Press ^ | July 3, 2010

Posted on 07/03/2010 6:10:46 AM PDT by Strategy

BANDAR ABBAS, Iran -- Iranian helicopters scattered flowers into the Persian Gulf waters as family members and relatives remembered the 290 passengers killed when a U.S. warship shot down an Iranian airliner 22 years ago.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; israel; obama; persiangulf; usnavy

1 posted on 07/03/2010 6:10:48 AM PDT by Strategy
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To: Strategy

Aegis all the way!


2 posted on 07/03/2010 6:12:36 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: neodad

This wasn’t/isn’t something to celebrate. It was a tragedy.


3 posted on 07/03/2010 6:18:33 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Strategy

Maybe O will offer them reparations.


4 posted on 07/03/2010 6:19:06 AM PDT by Shannon
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To: RightOnline

It was a tragedy. I fault the Iranians who piloted that plane for acting in a belligerent manner, refusing to answer radio communications and flying that path during a time of hostility.

It was a shame and a tragedy...innocent people killed in a time of battle, but it could have been prevented.

It did highlight the need for better management of information and data as well.


5 posted on 07/03/2010 6:35:40 AM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: RightOnline
This wasn’t/isn’t something to celebrate. It was a tragedy.

Yeah really.

We made a horrifying mistake and downed an airliner full of civilians... "Aegis all the way!"

6 posted on 07/03/2010 6:35:55 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: RightOnline

I wonder if this is connected to the missile downing of TWA 800 off NYC?


7 posted on 07/03/2010 6:36:34 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: newfreep

OT - is FR really S-L-O-W-W-W today?


8 posted on 07/03/2010 6:37:43 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: AAABEST

I still maintain the captain made the right decision in the heat of what was going on. If he hadn’t done that, and an Exocet missile had been launched, he would have been derelict in his duty.

We had problems with managing the flow of information, and the Iranians exacerbated it by deliberately making it worse.

We learned from it, ,but they didn’t.


9 posted on 07/03/2010 6:39:18 AM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: rlmorel

As we have learned from experience, a few shahads could
have turned that airliner into a cruise missile.
Sad, perhaps, but no AMERICANS were harmed in this
incident.


10 posted on 07/03/2010 6:40:56 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: rlmorel
Why were the bodies of the individuals on that Iranian airplane naked when they were recovered? I had heard rumour that there was a good chance many were already dead when they encroached upon the airspace of the Vincennes.
11 posted on 07/03/2010 6:41:32 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: RightOnline; All
This wasn’t/isn’t something to celebrate. It was a tragedy.

It wasn't a deliberate shoot down, but considering that Iran is one of the premiere terrorist-sponsoring regimes on the planet, I view it as them reaping what they sow.

Call it bad karma, call it whatever you like.

Sh*t happens.
12 posted on 07/03/2010 6:49:56 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: rlmorel
I still maintain the captain made the right decision in the heat of what was going on.

Unless you maintain that the event is worth of idiotic celebratory, type rhetoric, that's not what I and the FReeper I responded to were addressing, so it's a non-sequitor.

13 posted on 07/03/2010 6:52:39 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: vetvetdoug
Why were the bodies of the individuals on that Iranian airplane naked when they were recovered?

I think clothing being stripped off bodies by explosions and impact is quite common in crashes.

Bodies happen to be very strong structures and flesh has very high tensile strength, clothing not so much.

14 posted on 07/03/2010 7:01:06 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: AAABEST

Yeah, by all means, let’s weep for those Persian pricks.


15 posted on 07/03/2010 7:04:14 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: rlmorel
I have aways if somebody in the Iranian government did not not plan this from the start

Fly Air Marter

16 posted on 07/03/2010 7:07:50 AM PDT by Charlespg
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To: newfreep

Putting my tinfoil hat on it seems that it always slows down during a freepathon now that you mention it. :)


17 posted on 07/03/2010 7:08:39 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Charlespg

I have aways wondered if somebody in the Iranian government did not not plan this from the start

Fly Air Marter


18 posted on 07/03/2010 7:09:25 AM PDT by Charlespg
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To: Shannon
Maybe O will offer them reparations.

we paid them cash already....and apologized profusely.

no more

19 posted on 07/03/2010 7:18:54 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: mkjessup

Yeah, by all means, let’s weep for those Persian pricks.

Hint: Your homework is to learn to follow a discussion in a linear fashion as to avoid misrepresenting others and looking like an imbecile.

20 posted on 07/03/2010 7:28:25 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: AAABEST

AAABEST = Friend of the Iranian terrorist state.

Thanks for clearing that up for us.

PS - My dog p*sses on your homework assignment.


21 posted on 07/03/2010 7:32:52 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: Shannon

they got their “reparations”

It was called “Pan Am 103”


22 posted on 07/03/2010 7:33:38 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: newfreep
That's an interesting point. The previous incident with the Iranian airliner lent some credibility to the claims that TWA Flight 800 had been shot down with a surface-to-air missile.

You can be sure that there is a lot of information behind these incidents (I include the 1987 Iraqi missile attack on the U.S.S. Stark among these) that won't be revealed to the public for decades -- if at all.

23 posted on 07/03/2010 7:34:47 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: newfreep

bingo

PanAm 103 plus another smack in the face to America - for good measure - and to show contempt to Clinton for fellating his horny Jewish intern


24 posted on 07/03/2010 7:35:06 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: vetvetdoug
Why were the bodies of the individuals on that Iranian airplane naked when they were recovered? I had heard rumour that there was a good chance many were already dead when they encroached upon the airspace of the Vincennes.

They WERE already dead. None of the bodies found were determined to have died in the crash. The Iranians engaged in "body laundering."

25 posted on 07/03/2010 7:58:11 AM PDT by Guyin4Os (A messianic ger-tsedek)
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To: newfreep

“I wonder if this is connected to the missile downing of TWA 800 off NYC?”

More likely the Pan Am 103 Lockerbie bombing was the retaliation.

In my opinion TWA 800 was very likely a friendly fire accident.


26 posted on 07/03/2010 8:09:33 AM PDT by devere
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To: Guyin4Os; All
Why were the bodies of the individuals on that Iranian airplane naked when they were recovered? I had heard rumour that there was a good chance many were already dead when they encroached upon the airspace of the Vincennes.
They WERE already dead. None of the bodies found were determined to have died in the crash. The Iranians engaged in "body laundering."


Oh my, this is going to come as a terrible shock to those half-wits who think this was a 'tragedy'.
27 posted on 07/03/2010 8:10:44 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: Strategy

Not all Iranians are worthless filthy pig fornicators.Of course all of Iran’s *leaders* are exactly that but....


28 posted on 07/03/2010 11:50:33 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (''I don't regret setting bombs,I feel we didn't do enough.'' ->Bill Ayers,Hussein's mentor)
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To: rlmorel

Wasn’t the USS Stark hit by an exocet missile in ‘87? I would imagine the crew of the USS Vincennes were on high alert to that danger, no matter what form the missile took. Has anyone definitively concluded that the Iranian airplane was not diving toward the ship? Airplanes were used as missiles on 9/11.


29 posted on 07/03/2010 11:58:10 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: newfreep

>>I wonder if this is connected to the missile downing of TWA 800 off NYC?

No. The US shot that one down too. Of course, TWA800 wasn’t flying on a direct course to a US warship in a dangerous part of the world, ignoring all attempts at radio communication. TWA800 may have just been a case of Arkancide.


30 posted on 07/03/2010 12:30:40 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Obama is like a rocket scientist....who's trying to do brain surgery with a hammer.)
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To: mkjessup

I have absolutely zero love-lost for the Iranian theocracy. I DO, however, have tremendous respect for the average Iranian citizen (you think you hate their government? you don’t come close to how THEY feel).

The majority of Iranians are under the age of 25; they weren’t even born when our embassy was taken over. They loathe their own government.

They aren’t Arabs; they are Persian.

True, our forces did not shoot this airliner down deliberately. It was a terrible, terrible accident. I hate that this happened to a plane full of innocent civilians. I’m sure our Navy forces involved feel horrible about it.

All that said.....this is NOT something to joke about or “celebrate”. Human life is human life, and all precious in God’s eyes.


31 posted on 07/03/2010 1:08:57 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: RightOnline; Guyin4Os

Your points are all well taken, however I would kindly direct you to post #25, which raises a whole new slew of questions.


32 posted on 07/03/2010 2:37:39 PM PDT by mkjessup
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33 posted on 07/03/2010 2:44:40 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: mkjessup

no weepin’ from me for those Godless savages mk. ANY of ‘em.


34 posted on 07/03/2010 5:03:35 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: AAABEST

I neither said nor implied that. Please don’t put words in my mouth.


35 posted on 07/03/2010 5:03:47 PM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: bobby.223
no weepin’ from me for those Godless savages mk. ANY of ‘em.

My original comment which apparently ruffled the feathers of some of the 'best' (har har) FReepers was that considering that Iran has been a terrorist-supporting state ever since the Assahollah and his thugs seized power in '79 and that if one of their airliners was taken out, even accidentally as it was by the Vincennes it was nothing but the universal law of karma biting those Islamic bastards on the ass.

As I said, "sh*t happens", deal with it.
36 posted on 07/03/2010 6:56:23 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup

couldn’t agree more. I hope that ass of theirs gets bitten hard again real soon also. I’m wishing REAL hard. I have not forgotten the ‘iran hostage crisis’ and I never will. payback is way past due imo.


37 posted on 07/03/2010 7:07:24 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: Charlespg

Martyr


38 posted on 07/03/2010 7:11:52 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: Strategy

I always thought they did Lockerbie in retaliation for this.


39 posted on 07/03/2010 8:31:06 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: Strategy

Man. I can’t believe it’s been 22 years. Doesn’t seem anywhere near that long ago.


40 posted on 07/03/2010 8:36:19 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: PghBaldy

No, Lockerbie was old Mad Mo; it was a Libyan op.


41 posted on 07/04/2010 4:19:49 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: mkjessup

Grow up


42 posted on 07/04/2010 7:02:18 AM PDT by Redbird1564
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To: Redbird1564

Stuff it twerp.


43 posted on 07/04/2010 7:56:47 AM PDT by mkjessup (Do you support John McCain? If so, you're an effin' IDIOT! He's nothing but '0bama-lite'.)
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To: mkjessup

You come off as:

A) Very Young
B) Highly uneducated
C) Devoid of religion
D) All of the above

Which is it? You are the same as arabs who celebrated the 9/11 attacks, you should try to act better than these animals, because right now you seem to be exactly like them only on a different side. You’re an embarassment.


44 posted on 07/04/2010 11:08:40 AM PDT by hannibaal
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To: hannibaal

Go screw yourself n00b. You won’t be here long.


45 posted on 07/04/2010 1:39:24 PM PDT by mkjessup (Do you support John McCain? If so, you're an effin' IDIOT! He's nothing but '0bama-lite'.)
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