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Some Muggles Too Pudgy for Harry Potter Ride
http://www.aolnews.com/weird-news/article/fat-harry-potter-fans-turned-away-from-forbidden-journey-r ^ | june 23, 2010 | Ben Muessig

Posted on 07/05/2010 9:19:43 AM PDT by longtermmemmory

(June 23) -- When most people get in line at Orlando, Fla.'s new Harry Potter theme park, they're worried about the wait -- not their weight.

But according to some Harry Potter lovers, pudgy muggles -- those who weigh about 265 pounds or more -- are getting tossed from line at the most-hyped ride in Universal Studios' Wizarding World of Harry Potter amusement park.

For them, the ride "Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey" is truly living up to its name -- and that's a big disappointment for fans who resemble Harry's rotund cousin Dudley.

Harry Potter fanatic Jeff Guillaume said he was "quite disappointed" after park officials turned him away from the Hogwarts-touring attraction because his 5-foot, 8-inch, 265-pound frame was deemed too large for the ride's safety harnesses.

"What it boils down to for me, and what surprised and disappointed me the most, was that many of Universal's other rides contain 'modified seating' rows for larger guests, and -- let's face it -- a good number of people in the Harry Potter fandom are a bit heavy, so why didn't Universal anticipate and accommodate us here?" he wrote on his website, the Harry Potter Automatic News Aggregator (HPANA to Potter maniacs).

Universal Studios representatives did not return calls in time for AOL News' deadline, but the Orlando Sentinel reports that park officials have "instituted a screening system" requiring random park-goers to sit in "test seats" installed in the line area of the "Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey" ride.

"I'm not sure what the system is, but team members take potential riders -- not all of them -- and test whether the safety harnass [sic] will latch," the paper's Theme Park Rangers blog notes.

Some park-goers are hexing Universal Studios officials over rumors that 6-foot-11, 265-pound Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard was permitted on the ride while other heavyset Harry Potter fans were turned away.

But amusement park expert Dennis Speigel says the restrictions likely have as much to do with body type as they do with weight.

"Height can be a factor either way -- too short or too tall -- and girth could be a factor too," said Speigel, who is president of the amusement industry consulting firm International Theme Park Services.

While amusement park visitors are probably accustomed to signs informing them they "must be this tall to ride," Speigel says weight and body type restrictions are prevalent.

"It's not unusual," he says. "You have weight restrictions everywhere from Disney to the smallest mom-and-pop operators. It's for the safety of the guests. ... They aren't penalizing the person to be mean. They are exercising caution as it relates to safety -- and that's the prudent thing to do."

Even though more than one-third of American adults are obese, amusement park designers simply aren't creating rides for people who are very overweight, Speigel says.

"You can't design a ride for an excessively large person," he says. "You can't build for that narrow segment of the population. You try to hit average and little bit above."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: exercise; obesity; responsiblity; safety
I thought this was interesting because there are the usual suspects ready to endanger everyone in order to excuse the very very very few.
1 posted on 07/05/2010 9:19:46 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
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2 posted on 07/05/2010 9:22:28 AM PDT by JRios1968 (The real first rule of Fight Club: don't invite Chuck Norris...EVER)
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To: longtermmemmory

If it is made to fit fat people,, before long it probably becomes unsafe for the normal size people.


3 posted on 07/05/2010 9:23:32 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: longtermmemmory

If it is made to fit fat people,, before long it probably becomes unsafe for the normal size people.


4 posted on 07/05/2010 9:23:41 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: longtermmemmory
those who weigh about 265 pounds or more

They are complaining about a basketball player who was able to get on weighing 265...well I believe the people who are getting turned away are the disgusting obese gross people who deserve to not put other people in danger with their fat hanging off the sides. This is a good incentive for people to lose weight and then they will be able to get on the ride. People are getting really fat and until they stop this type of thing will happen. What is sad is it seems that kids are the ones being turned away. A kid who ways 265 is the fault of the parent who should be shot or put in jail. It reminds me the that disgusting Huckster Family and how revolting they are and who wanted to represent the Americans as President...Good God Thank God that fugly family was turned away. How to lose weight....push your chair away from the table when you are full. Not a difficult concept.

5 posted on 07/05/2010 9:27:31 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: retrokitten

ping


6 posted on 07/05/2010 9:32:30 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 528 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Just waiting to see any of those individuals hire a lawyer and sue for discrimination.


7 posted on 07/05/2010 9:34:59 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: JRios1968

OK, I laughed.


8 posted on 07/05/2010 9:35:22 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: napscoordinator

I was speaking with a doctor about this “obesity crisis”. He said that very few people have a clinical reason for obesity. Most obese are diet AND exercise related issues. No self control and no exercise of significance.

I think the best response is the person who is using the ride to get in shape for his “three clicks”


9 posted on 07/05/2010 9:36:07 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
Some park-goers are hexing Universal Studios officials over rumors that 6-foot-11, 265-pound Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard was permitted on the ride while other heavyset Harry Potter fans were turned away.

But amusement park expert Dennis Speigel says the restrictions likely have as much to do with body type as they do with weight.

"Height can be a factor either way -- too short or too tall -- and girth could be a factor too," said Speigel, who is president of the amusement industry consulting firm International Theme Park Services.

Well, if girth is the issue - stick a girth chart next to the height chart before a ride. Have a scale handy too. Without that guide any employee is making a judgment call and it could be discrimination - if a basketball player with the same weight got on and this fat kid couldn't - being the same weight - there's an issue where none needs to be - break out the scales & measures......without them you have 'would have*could have*should have'

10 posted on 07/05/2010 9:36:56 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: napscoordinator

I wouldn’t exactly call 250 or 265 a lard ass.


11 posted on 07/05/2010 9:37:08 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles

I would if the kid is 5 foot. Not if an adult is 6 foot.


12 posted on 07/05/2010 9:38:44 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Jack Hydrazine

there is no “duty to be fit” or a “right to be fat”


13 posted on 07/05/2010 9:39:44 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

You see this a lot at Disney etc - which I no longer go to. Loads of fatties who eat like pigs and live in a fantasy dream world. This guy at 5’8” 265 lbs should save his money from universal, sign up at a fitness gym and work on saving his life.


14 posted on 07/05/2010 9:41:48 AM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: goseminoles
I wouldn’t exactly call 250 or 265 a lard ass.

Depends on what it is and how it's distributed.

15 posted on 07/05/2010 9:42:30 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Amusement park rides have always had a size limit, because of the physics and engineering involved in safe restraints on these G-force rides. Riders can be too small and too big. Kids have to wait to grow up, and morbidly obese folk need to lose weight. The very short and the Hagrids of the world are out of luck, ironically ;-)


16 posted on 07/05/2010 9:43:01 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: libertarian27

The article states they have demo seats thoughout the line.

I am also certain the line has descrete markers which can be used to visually compare the patrons to the safety requirements.

You can’t legislate physics.


17 posted on 07/05/2010 9:43:24 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
...a good number of people in the Harry Potter fandom are a bit heavy...

This has to be the most shocking part of the entire story.

Next thing you'll hear is that many Twilight fans are heavy-set women in their 30's living in fantasy land.

18 posted on 07/05/2010 9:45:34 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (A government big enough to do unto the people you don't like will get to doing unto you soon enough.)
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To: longtermmemmory
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"This sounds like a job for Spider Man!"

19 posted on 07/05/2010 9:47:57 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: napscoordinator

More accurately, they are rejecting people if the restraint system can’t be activated. That isn’t a factor of height or weight per see, but width. If the belt can’t go around you, or if the restraint can’t be brought down and latched, you can’t ride.

In this particular ride, I’ve heard that some people who can’t fit in the test seats have been able to fit in one or more of the real seats.

But it has to be embarrassing to sit in a ride, and then be kicked off because several operators working together just can’t squeeze the restraint around you.


20 posted on 07/05/2010 9:48:02 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Frantzie

The price of an electric scooter rental would cover a gym membership.

For the people you mention, it is about EXCUSES not fitness.


21 posted on 07/05/2010 9:49:31 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

But there is a law somewhere that can be twisted and misconstrued that says you have to make accommodations for people with disabilities...like being obese. Yeah, that’s the ticket! Obesity = disability. And we have the ADA that will force this evil ride to be either shut down or physically altered at the ride operator’s expense.


22 posted on 07/05/2010 9:51:56 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: I Drive Too Fast

Fatties at the amusement park ping.


23 posted on 07/05/2010 9:54:00 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: longtermmemmory

Oh I hear you. I think someone recently was talking about ObamaCare and they were overweight. People want a pill so they can keep eating garbage and sitting in front of a TV or on Facebook, video game, etc. Usually playing some fantasy game or something childish.


24 posted on 07/05/2010 9:56:01 AM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: libertarian27

25 posted on 07/05/2010 10:05:32 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: longtermmemmory

What? Did I just read that some dude is about to drop dead of a massive heart attack and he is worried about getting on a Harry Potter ride???????????????????


26 posted on 07/05/2010 10:28:57 AM PDT by MattinNJ (Iron Man 2-a great conservative movie.)
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To: goseminoles
Wrong, I seen more than one woman in that weight range and they were all lard asses and lard guts.
27 posted on 07/05/2010 10:45:49 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: longtermmemmory
They just need to station a witch or wizard at the ride; he/she will point at the rider with a wand and shout "Lardasso-Reduxus!"
28 posted on 07/05/2010 10:54:58 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: JRios1968

Lol! No kidding. Wish they would do the same on airlines.


29 posted on 07/05/2010 11:19:54 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: longtermmemmory

265 is pretty high a weight limit and should cover most people? I am still too short for many rides at 5’2” so I have little sympathy sicne I will never be tall enough to be 5’3” or taller.


30 posted on 07/05/2010 11:55:37 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: windcliff

And they rent those scooters because they can’t walk all day at the park.


31 posted on 07/05/2010 1:33:49 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: JRios1968

ROLF!


32 posted on 07/05/2010 1:39:40 PM PDT by CodeToad ("Idiocracy" is not just a movie.)
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To: goseminoles

“I wouldn’t exactly call 250 or 265 a lard ass.”

I would. Most people weighing that much are severely obese. Even a 6’4” muscle bound dood weights in at 240-260.


33 posted on 07/05/2010 1:42:55 PM PDT by CodeToad ("Idiocracy" is not just a movie.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Obesity is not that type of disability. It is like saying voting for democrats is a disability.


34 posted on 07/05/2010 1:43:38 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: CodeToad

My point is that I’ve been in the 250 range at 6’2. Should I be excluded as a lard ass? I understand the arguement for planes. But should Disney spend all that money in R&D and not be able to accomodate people of the upper limit of average without compromising safety for youngsters?


35 posted on 07/05/2010 2:45:16 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles

I guess I should replace the work should with could. Could Disney accomodate large people? Everyone is assuming large people are fat or lazy. Disney with its money and technology should be able to build a ride for most. Even NFL players should they choose to visit Disney and ride.


36 posted on 07/05/2010 2:52:19 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles

“But should Disney spend all that money in R&D and not be able to accomodate people of the upper limit of average without compromising safety for youngsters?”

That’s not your call. It is their business.

“My point is that I’ve been in the 250 range at 6’2. Should I be excluded as a lard ass? I understand the arguement for planes.”

I have BIL that is 6’4” and 245. He’s primarily muscle. My weight lifting partner is 6’2” and 225. If you are not muscle at 6’2” and 250, then, yes, you are a lard ass. Today’s standards might make you seem not a lard ass, but 250 is fat for most people.


37 posted on 07/05/2010 3:00:32 PM PDT by CodeToad ("Idiocracy" is not just a movie.)
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To: CodeToad

You’re right. It is there business. They have every right to cater to 90 pound Japs. They won’t get my money, and that’s my choice.


38 posted on 07/05/2010 3:18:39 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles
I wouldn’t exactly call 250 or 265 a lard ass.

Unless they're weight lifters, if someone is 5'8" tall and weighs over 190 pounds, they need to be seriously concerned with losing weight. A large-framed person who is 5'8" shouldn't weigh more than 172 pounds. At 265 pounds, they'd have a BMI of around 40 and be considered morbidly obese.

39 posted on 07/05/2010 3:20:02 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: longtermmemmory

Isn’t Leftism a mental disorder according to Mike Savage? LOL! They definitely need ADA-compliant rubber rooms!


40 posted on 07/05/2010 3:26:54 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Drew68
A large-framed person who is 5'8" shouldn't weigh more than 172 pounds. At 265 pounds, they'd have a BMI of around 40 and be considered morbidly obese.

Why parrot a fad idiocy! BMI is BOGUS.

1. The person who dreamed up the BMI said explicitly that it could not and should not be used to indicate the level of fatness in an individual.

The BMI was introduced in the early 19th century by a Belgian named Lambert Adolphe Jacques Quetelet. He was a mathematician, not a physician. He produced the formula to give a quick and easy way to measure the degree of obesity of the general population to assist the government in allocating resources. In other words, it is a 200-year-old hack.

2. It is scientifically nonsensical.

There is no physiological reason to square a person's height (Quetelet had to square the height to get a formula that matched the overall data. If you can't fix the data, rig the formula!). Moreover, it ignores waist size, which is a clear indicator of obesity level.

3. It is physiologically wrong.

It makes no allowance for the relative proportions of bone, muscle and fat in the body. But bone is denser than muscle and twice as dense as fat, so a person with strong bones, good muscle tone and low fat will have a high BMI. Thus, athletes and fit, health-conscious movie stars who work out a lot tend to find themselves classified as overweight or even obese.

Source: Top Ten Reasons Why The BMI Is Bogus


41 posted on 07/05/2010 3:34:02 PM PDT by bvw
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To: chris_bdba

I think people are confusing muscle density and fat content. You can have two people with the same weight but one be out of shape and “rotund” and the other person in shape and compact.


42 posted on 07/05/2010 3:44:43 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Drew68

I guess my point is that Disney should be able to accomodate all(or most). The people paying the crazy prices are us “lard asses”, not 50 pound kids. Airplanes are 50 years old. Rides are new and should be designed to accomodate the changing size of America- if possible. Its not like a 750 lb heiffer showed up expecting to ride. We are talking about people in the 200’s. Just my opinion. And the arguement is different than air travel.


43 posted on 07/05/2010 3:45:02 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: bvw

BMI is crap. When I weighed 260, my waist never exceeded 38-40 inches. It doesn’t measure fatness or fitness.


44 posted on 07/05/2010 3:49:59 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles

We are talking about the people who have elected to ignore a prudent lifestyle of proper eating and exercise. They have the freedome to eat and live as they choose. The business has the freedom to not accomodate them. Obviously their dollars do not matter so what are they upset about?


45 posted on 07/05/2010 3:58:36 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: goseminoles; Drew68
A large-framed person who is 5'8" shouldn't weigh more than 172 pounds.

I'd like to know just how many large framed 5'8" adults are below 172 pounds. I'd also like to see that broken down by age, or decade of age.

46 posted on 07/05/2010 4:46:27 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

The point is not who could, should, has been, will be a lard ass. Its about accomodating consumers. I’m not making judgement on large people, like some others.
They are offering a product that many can’t use. Its their loss and bad PR.


47 posted on 07/05/2010 4:49:13 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles

The point I’m making is that BMI does not measure ‘lard assness’ at all. Most hard, muscular small assed persons such as me have “obese level BMI’s” simply because muscle is much denser than fat.

That is use or invocation or labeling people by BMI is slanderous, it’s mean, vile, prejudice.


48 posted on 07/05/2010 5:03:52 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

Point taken. I’m on your side guy.


49 posted on 07/05/2010 5:13:14 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles

Thanks!

To be sure, I don’t care one way or the other about the main issue of the thread, although at some point such issues might be interesting to me, which is why I read it at first, and the responses too. You were right to say, in a way, that I took the thread off topic, but this BMI stuff sticks in my craw — today’s medical professionals, including my own, can’t help but practice ‘defensive’ medicine so the BMI think colors — shades, that is — good practice based on real learned wisdoms.


50 posted on 07/05/2010 6:51:59 PM PDT by bvw
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