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Obama and Supreme Court may be on collision course
LA Times ^ | 7/5/2010 | David G. Savage, Tribune Washington Bureau

Posted on 07/05/2010 11:03:52 PM PDT by cruise_missile

The president's agenda on healthcare and financial regulations sets the stage for a clash with the Supreme Court's conservative majority.

Reporting from Washington — The Supreme Court wrapped up its term last week after landmark decisions protecting the right to have a gun and the right of corporations to spend freely on elections. But the year's most important moment may have come on the January evening when the justices gathered at the Capitol for President Obama's State of the Union address.

They had no warning about what was coming.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: court; obama; scotus; supreme

1 posted on 07/05/2010 11:04:00 PM PDT by cruise_missile
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To: cruise_missile

And the communist Obama will be Railroaded by the freedom loving, strict constructionist Chief Justice Roberts!

Bring it On!!!!!!!

Thank you President Bush!!!


2 posted on 07/05/2010 11:05:41 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: cruise_missile

Maybe. I think it has already started.


3 posted on 07/05/2010 11:05:41 PM PDT by cruise_missile
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To: indianrightwinger

I think some of the other Justices were pretty ticked off during the last State Of The Union too.


4 posted on 07/05/2010 11:09:05 PM PDT by cruise_missile
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To: cruise_missile

Let’s not count any chickens before they’re hatched. A couple more Obama appointments (which is likely) and this “conservative” Court will be about as conservative as Stalin’s Politburo.


5 posted on 07/05/2010 11:13:02 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: indianrightwinger

I read many years ago, (I think it was Coulter) who said that Bush’s personal aim was to get 2 conservative SC judges on the SCOTUS when prez. He got them in Alito/Roberts. No wonder he’s smiling. The LAT article was targeting Roberts while beatifying Kagan. Typical.


6 posted on 07/05/2010 11:13:30 PM PDT by max americana
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To: cruise_missile

The decision in the Citizens United case was a great decision by the Roberts court. It’s extremely important that corporations, both large and small, are able to speak freely about all candidates without any bureaucratic interference. The Obama White House apparently doesn’t understand the many powerful reasons for this great decision by the Roberts court. I suggest they start reading up and thinking more about why the court made this great decision.


7 posted on 07/05/2010 11:14:00 PM PDT by socialism_stinX (He didn't invent fresh brewed coffee, but he perfected the art of sipping it during tennis warm-up.)
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To: max americana

I noticed that too. The writer didn’t say anything about the powerful rationale used by the Roberts court in the Citizens United case. Typical biased, unbalanced liberal journalism.


8 posted on 07/05/2010 11:16:38 PM PDT by socialism_stinX (He didn't invent fresh brewed coffee, but he perfected the art of sipping it during tennis warm-up.)
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To: cruise_missile
"Before, it was all about the 'culture wars' issues, like abortion, prayer and gay rights. Afterward, they saw this new activist thrust among the conservatives as a direct threat to their legislative agenda.""

That sentance is loaded with admission of guilt since all the court has been doing is interpreting the constitution as intended. I find it rather refreshing that they don't have to make up all kinds of crap, like a "living breathing constitution" in order to justify their opinions.

The constitution was written in plain english for a reason and the only way it can live and breathe is through the amendment process, which the court is not ascribed therein.
9 posted on 07/05/2010 11:17:54 PM PDT by dajeeps
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To: cruise_missile
If Obama is found to be unqualified for office (the birth certificate), does that mean that the “wise Latina's” nomination to the Supreme Court also becomes invalid?
10 posted on 07/05/2010 11:18:34 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Socialism: Subsidizing Chaff at the expense of Wheat)
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To: cruise_missile
a clash with the Supreme Court's conservative majority.
O.K., I can only name four (4) Conservative Justices: Roberts, Alito, Thomas and Scalia. Am I missing one? If not, then this is not a "Conservative" court; unless Justice Kennedy is considered a "Conservative".
Somebody give me some feed back and help me out here.

11 posted on 07/05/2010 11:21:45 PM PDT by no dems (Palin/Jindal in 2012 or Jindal/Christie in 2012. Either is fine with me.)
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To: cruise_missile

How did “adhere to the principle(s) of the Constitution” end up being defined as “conservative” ?!
...sigh...


12 posted on 07/05/2010 11:35:33 PM PDT by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: Cowboy Bob
It stands to reason that if Obama is found to have been ineligible to hold the office of president all along, then every piece of legislation with his signature, every appointment, and every decision he has made during his masquerade how slight become null and void. Anything short of that would be a constitutional crisis.
13 posted on 07/05/2010 11:40:11 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Cowboy Bob

Every appointment etc and even his administration would be void and that includes Biden and Pelosi as they wouldn’t be in the positions they are in if he did not hold office.

Look, we alrady know he was selected as well as McCain to run.


14 posted on 07/06/2010 12:38:01 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: cruise_missile

Intriguing, to say the least. Since I am Dutch, I don’t know every nook and cranny of the American legislative system (although I try to catch up when I can).

This is really something. So Bush jr. wisely planted a few seeds, and their produce will be able to obstruct Sheik Obie? That would be nice... to see liberal idiocy going all pear-shaped for the foreseeable future.

Keeping fingers crossed across the Atlantic!


15 posted on 07/06/2010 12:38:08 AM PDT by Ayn And Milton
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To: Ayn And Milton

AAM,

Belated welcome to FR!

I would extremely interested to hear how a libertarian - I presume you are a libertarian from your handle - gets on in Holland. Particularly in the academy in Holland. I would think it is a very lonely existence.

Or are you closeted....so to speak?

Hank


16 posted on 07/06/2010 12:52:24 AM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Where's the diversity on MSNBC? Olbermann, Schultz, Matthews, Maddow.....all white males!)
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To: indianrightwinger

There are only four communists on the court.


17 posted on 07/06/2010 1:44:51 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: screaminsunshine

“There are only four communists on the court.”

Well, then...it must be time to pack the court. [Let’s just hope that The One has no better luck at it than FDR did...]


18 posted on 07/06/2010 2:12:54 AM PDT by Clioman (wHAT)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

Hi Hank -

cheers for posting. Yes, it is hard, since Holland is pretty much a socialist country, certainly in American terms. Everything under the sun is regulated. Government always thinks it is a nanny for every citizen. Which means that everyday our media are full to the brim with admonitions, warnings, advice, you name it; and for all things we have institutions that relate to these things.

Weird. Because instead of increasing general safety, this state of things makes people act slavish, passive, subservient. Private initiative is not seen as a great asset here.

If you fall off of your bike here, you get psychological help for 6 months, to process the trauma, and get rid of it eventually. Of course highly state-paid experts do that job.

I try to get along. I found some sort of personal solution, or balance if you will - I am not afraid to vent my, sometimes harsh, criticism pertaining to our leftist society; and I always try to excel in what I do, to show that private efforts are beneficial not only to myself, but also to those around me. Whenever I succeed in giving that extra bit, I get a lot of encouragement: hey, he walks like he talks, and it works!

I’m not superhuman, of course. No one is. But I learned a lot from the U.S.A. spirit: the ‘can do’, ‘make it up as we go along’ mentality. The first time in my life I understood this was the dangerous, and eventually triumphant return of Apollo 13. Incredible, the stuff of dreams.

Again, thanks for writing, A&M!


19 posted on 07/06/2010 2:56:37 AM PDT by Ayn And Milton
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To: no dems

Although a Reagan appointee, Kennedy has been a ‘swing’ vote on the Court (together with another Reagan appointee, Sandra Day O’Connor until she retired). However, it speaks to Roberts’ persuasive skills that since he became Chief Justice, Kennedy has voted more frequently with the conservatives on the Court.

However, on the day the McDonald vs. Chicago opinion was rendered, Kennedy sided with the liberals on a case that allowed a university to bar a highly orthodox Christian group from its sanctioned groups because it discriminates against homosexuals and others in violation of the university’s code.


20 posted on 07/06/2010 3:19:56 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: T.L.Sink
A couple more Obama appointments (which is likely) and this “conservative” Court will be about as conservative as Stalin’s Politburo.

So let's all chip in and hire a quintet of professional food tasters for the five non-Communist justices.

21 posted on 07/06/2010 3:26:41 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Cowboy Bob
If Obama is found to be unqualified for office (the birth certificate), does that mean that the “wise Latina's” nomination to the Supreme Court also becomes invalid?

"Hard cases make bad law." That's about as far as I can get on that one.

Presumably, all his legislation and executive orders would be in the sink, and his cabinet and subcabinet appointees. It would be a real mess, and very welcome to people who've hung tough and refused to be intimidated.

22 posted on 07/06/2010 3:31:43 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: socialism_stinX
It’s extremely important that corporations, both large and small, are able to speak freely about all candidates without any bureaucratic interference.

Nonsense. Huge swilling of cash through our politics is debasing it just as surely as it debased the Roman Republic.

We need to attack the (phony) Supreme Court case epitome that "established" that "artificial persons" (corporations) are endowed with full citizen rights. That is a subject Congress never legislated on and the Court never ruled on. It was a corrupt bit of legerdemain at the expense of a dying 19th-century chief justice.

23 posted on 07/06/2010 3:35:35 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

It was socialism that debased the Roman Republic.

If you like, the money that debased it was tax money, stolen by the Roman state from the wealth-producers at the point of a pilum.

If those wealth producers could have voted down taxes, the Roman Empire might have been with us today. As it was, the massive slave state that was the late Roman Empire greeted the barbarians almost with relief.


24 posted on 07/06/2010 3:55:58 AM PDT by agere_contra (Obama did more damage to the Gulf economy in one day than Pemex/Ixtoc did in nine months)
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To: cruise_missile

I take it the LA Times reporter thinks the conservative justices base their legal opinions on political factors...this is just projection by the liberal reporter. The collision course will be based upon the constitution. The article offers a window into the lefts corrupt psyche.

In other words, it shows us how they think, their cognitives...it is rare we see such naked example of their sickness...from themselves. Generally, we only become aware of it by those who understand them, like Rush, Ann Coulter, Palin etc. That is why the left hates those patriots so much.


25 posted on 07/06/2010 5:26:47 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: cruise_missile

Obozo and his minions don’t particularly respect any law they don’t happen to agree with and... oh, wait, that’s also true of the Supreme Court (Roe v Wade). What is coming has been coming for a long time.


26 posted on 07/06/2010 6:48:13 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: freekitty

No,Biden was legally elected as VP


27 posted on 07/06/2010 7:54:23 AM PDT by screaming eagle2 (no matter what you call it...a pre-owned vehicle IS STILL A USED CAR!)
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To: freekitty

No,Biden was legally elected as VP


28 posted on 07/06/2010 7:54:23 AM PDT by screaming eagle2 (no matter what you call it...a pre-owned vehicle IS STILL A USED CAR!)
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To: screaming eagle2

He was selected by an illegal President; not by the people.


29 posted on 07/06/2010 9:13:57 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: no dems

Kennedy came out of the “closet” yesterday. He said he was foing to wait for Ibama to go before he retires.

Surprise to me.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/07/06/2010-07-06_holdin_court_at_73_justice_kennedy_tells_pals_hes_not_retiring_for_years__thats_.html


30 posted on 07/06/2010 9:31:41 AM PDT by cruise_missile
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To: Ayn And Milton

Thanks, AAM. I’ll resist the temptation of pestering you with all the questions I have. ;-)

I hope you stay here on FR. I would imagine you might be put off by some of the arcane bickering over religious dogma that goes on here. It’s a small but very persistent minority....do what I do and ignore it.

And most importantly, congrats to your country on making the World Cup final! I’m hoping for a Germany victory over Spain.....Germany/Netherlands would be quite an interesting matchup on lots of levels.

Best,
Hank


31 posted on 07/06/2010 1:48:24 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Where's the diversity on MSNBC? Olbermann, Schultz, Matthews, Maddow.....all white males!)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

Hi Hank -

top post! And thank you for being a bit reluctant about our society... the heat outside is quite tiring, and we got that soccer match ahead.

A&M.


32 posted on 07/10/2010 7:05:15 AM PDT by Ayn And Milton
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