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Video: Leno demonstrates effectiveness of American education on history
HotAir ^ | July 3, 2010 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 07/06/2010 4:26:53 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

I briefly considered using this clip for tomorrow, but it’s too depressing to post on Independence Day. Instead, we’ll let this serve as a warning on the eve of the nation’s 234th birthday. If you can’t do any better than the people in this clip interviewed by the Tonight Show’s Jay Leno in his Jaywalking segment, turn on the History Channel and try to catch up before tomorrow morning. And who saves the day in this clip?

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Sad, very sad.
1 posted on 07/06/2010 4:27:02 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Thank you, NEA. Now we can clearly see the value of giving public school teachers unbreakable contracts.


2 posted on 07/06/2010 4:36:23 AM PDT by Pecos
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Thanks for posting this. I saw the headline posted several times over the weekend but only now clicked and watched the video.

Pathetically sad and explains how Obama can outright lie to the people as only a handful know the difference.


3 posted on 07/06/2010 4:39:19 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Not only sad but shocking, depressing and very very upsetting.

Is it any wonder why we are not even in the top ten list of global countries who are tops in education?

Are we even in the top twenty?


4 posted on 07/06/2010 4:40:48 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Sad, very sad.
So true! And depressing as well.
5 posted on 07/06/2010 4:46:06 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Ev Reeman
Are we even in the top twenty?
If the category is "Are you ignorant of your history?" then the answer, if that video is an example, is yes.
6 posted on 07/06/2010 4:48:09 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

If the computer industry ran like the education racket, we’d each be paying thousands of dollars to get an abacus.

In fact, if most any other field were like this, we’d take our business elsewhere. Nice captive consumer they have!


7 posted on 07/06/2010 4:51:00 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Ev Reeman

The grandfather at the end is exactly why the libs do not want old people to survive - they know the truth about history.


8 posted on 07/06/2010 4:51:34 AM PDT by mathluv ( Conservative first and foremost, republican second - GO SARAHCUDA!!!!)
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To: philman_36

It is also the reason why we are failing as a country.

Nobody studies math or science anymore.

Girls are flying past boys in their studies (thank goodness somebody is learning something)

It, all of this, is a recipe for disaster for a country and we are careening down that path at breakneck speed.


9 posted on 07/06/2010 4:56:43 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Ev Reeman

Is this for real? If so, there’s no way these people should be allowed to vote.

I’m hoping this was just a set up for Leno to get some laughs.


10 posted on 07/06/2010 4:56:43 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Pecos

Well, obviously, they need more money.

And THIS time we need to make sure that the extra money is not siphoned off by the Administrators.

The extra cash (and obscene pension and benefits) needs to go in the hands of the actual teachers.

Oh, and they need more days off.

Hope I don’t need a sarc tag.


11 posted on 07/06/2010 4:57:15 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Rebelbase

These are all most assuredly Obama voters. Idiocracy is here.


12 posted on 07/06/2010 5:00:20 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Hey,at least there was “Grandpa”.


13 posted on 07/06/2010 5:01:14 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (''I don't regret setting bombs,I feel we didn't do enough.'' ->Bill Ayers,Hussein's mentor,9/11/01)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

...but I’ll bet they all learned how to put a condom on a cucumber!


14 posted on 07/06/2010 5:01:29 AM PDT by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Thank God for “grandpa”!


15 posted on 07/06/2010 5:02:16 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

bfl


16 posted on 07/06/2010 5:04:23 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I was born in Canada in 1951. In the summer of 1959 my family moved to the US (NC).
I had finished Grade 2 here in Canada and been advanced 2 grades to the 4th.
When I registered to go to school in Rocky Mount NC, I was put back a grade,
the reason given... I would have lagged behind the other students in American history.

Today the school might well celebrate a get-to-know Canada day,
extolling its virtues while bad mouthing the evil USA.


17 posted on 07/06/2010 5:11:20 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: Ev Reeman
It, all of this, is a recipe for disaster for a country and we are careening down that path at breakneck speed.
What an indictment on our Dept. of Edu. and the Teacher's Unions.
They're even proud of it too.
18 posted on 07/06/2010 5:11:55 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The problem with videos like this is that you have no idea how many people he interviewed for this segment. Couple that with the fact that the people (who had to sign a release in order to be shown) went into the interview knowing that if they just gave the right answers odds were that they would be thanked and shown the door while if they gave a stupid answer odds are they would be on national television. Given how attention-obsessed our country has become it would come at no surprise that some people would trade their dignity for a chance to look like an idiot being interviewed by the famous Jay Leno.

Just a few posts above this one is another post claiming that 67% of the people think that cutting taxes would be a better choice to fix the economy than using stimulus money. That is getting a lot of good feedback, which just goes to show that people generally support an idea that is already preconceived by them. The Leno segment is also a good indicator.


19 posted on 07/06/2010 5:12:36 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Teachers unions should be sentenced to watch this once a day for the rest of their “teaching” lives or until students are taught history.


20 posted on 07/06/2010 5:15:08 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Funny. But I wonder how many people Leno had to ask in order to get enough with the wrong answer to make his clip?


21 posted on 07/06/2010 5:15:36 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Abraham Lincoln: For when it happened too long ago to blame on George W. Bush)
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To: Ev Reeman
It is also the reason why we are failing as a country.

You might be interested in a couple of recent replies of mine...
#1
#2
#3

Oh, yeah, there's a problem all right.

22 posted on 07/06/2010 5:17:02 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: freeangel

How many members of the teachers’ union could answer the questions themselves?


23 posted on 07/06/2010 5:17:23 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: MrB

Public schools are responsible for American’s decline...


24 posted on 07/06/2010 5:21:02 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Although I admit I had my own ‘Jaywalking’ moment last Friday. I was sitting in a bar with a friend watching the Uruguay/Ghana game. Uruguay had just won it on free kicks and this 20-something blond turns to me and asks, in all seriousness, “Where is Uruguay? Is it in Europe somewhere?”


25 posted on 07/06/2010 5:24:58 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Abraham Lincoln: For when it happened too long ago to blame on George W. Bush)
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To: who knows what evil?

It’s one of the Communist Goals for America - infiltrating and destroying our public education system.

I know my children will never be in one of those institutions.


26 posted on 07/06/2010 5:25:54 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Brave New World, indeed.


27 posted on 07/06/2010 5:26:50 AM PDT by P.O.E. ("Danger is My Beer" - Rev. Dr. Fred Lane)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

This is not going to be a problem in NC before too long. My understanding is there is a proposal floating around somewhere that suggests American History prior to 1870’s (or thereabout) will no longer be taught in the public schools. So, future generations will not need to know the messy little details that brought our country into existence, provide the foundation for our culture and heritage, make us a distinct people, remind us of our godly heritage (and dependence on His providence), etc., etc., etc.

Can you imagine what Leno’s street interviews will be like then:

Leno: So, who is the founder of American democracy?

Man on the street: Barak Obama?

Leno: Okay, so what does the Constitution stipulate about the role of government?

Man on the street: That it needs to be there for the people, providing lots of welfare and unemployment insurance...and even jobs, if anybody wants one...

Leno: What is the Bill of Rights?

Man on the street: That’s when the government comes along and tells you what you can and can’t do...and when you disobey the government, they can bill you for it...I think...

Leno: Okay, you’re doing great...last question. What do we celebrate on the 4th of July?

Man on the street: America’s total dependence on government to give us a better life, to take care of us when we’re sick, to make sure corporations and big businesses don’t screw us over and to protect us from domestic enemies, like, you know, Christians, conservatives, greedy people...

Leno: Is that it?

Man on the street: ...oh yeah, and to remember that we’re no different than anybody else in this world—we’re all just one big family, no better...and no worse...well, maybe at times we are a little worse. You know, we’ve done some things that we shouldn’t have...like slavery, fighting people all the time, polluting the planet...so, we need to remember that so that we don’t hog all the world’s resources...or treat others unfairly by not letting them come in and get some for themselves...or else we could just lose it all and it could go up in one great big ball of fire, like a big bomb explosing...That’s why we’ll all watch the fireworks tonight.


28 posted on 07/06/2010 5:31:33 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

at the end... you have 3 generations represented. two have been educated since the department of education and progressives took over. one was educated using the ‘old’ system

which one knew anything about the country?

this is a very telling video.


29 posted on 07/06/2010 5:32:05 AM PDT by sten
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
"turn on the History Channel and try to catch up"

I would recommend something other than the Ministry of Propaganda's "History Channel" as a source of information, particularly concerning Christianity or Western civilization.

30 posted on 07/06/2010 5:36:34 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "Hapana Obama")
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To: MarDav

“...like a big bomb explosing...”

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31 posted on 07/06/2010 5:38:00 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: MarDav
A S D F G
32 posted on 07/06/2010 5:39:50 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... The winds of war are freshening)
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To: MarDav

Not reading your opening closely enough,
I thought this was a transcript of an actual interview.

The only problem with it is that the hypothetical individual was a little too “smart” and could articulate the beliefs of the left a little too well.


33 posted on 07/06/2010 5:43:47 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: sten

Two of those generations could get a condom on a cucumber and one knew who we got our Independence from.

Pray for America


34 posted on 07/06/2010 5:48:58 AM PDT by bray (Did Rush say Complete Failure?)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The scary truth is that these ‘citizens’ have the right to vote and reproduce.


35 posted on 07/06/2010 5:50:53 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Totally SAD, but not surprising given who we voted into the white house a couple years back. Kruchev was probably right...we will eventually rot from within.


36 posted on 07/06/2010 5:58:55 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The next time Leno has Odumbo on his show maybe he should ask him the 4th of July questions.


37 posted on 07/06/2010 6:03:29 AM PDT by jacob allen
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

You make a lot of good points, however, your optimism has a slim foundation. Sean Hannity does a similar thing on Thursdays with his Man-in-the-Street interviews and he, generally, gets the same results . . . . . . live and on-air. His segments are not taped and played back later.

Having worked as a teacher (briefly) in public school, I got to see a lot of this personally and the kids (for the most part) are truly too dumb to walk and chew gum at the same time. That isn’t their fault, it’s the fault of a public school system tyhat is dedicated to teaching as little as possible. It is also a direct reflection of Bush’s NCLB (written by Teddy Chappaquiddick) that condemns these kids to learning how to take and pass a standardized test versus learning material they will need to guide them through life.

IMO, it’s time for America to hit Ctl-Alt-Delete and start over with the Constitution that the Founders left to us and NONE of the current crop of politicians, bureaucrats, wannabees and bottom feeders. I think we can do much, MUCH better.


38 posted on 07/06/2010 6:18:51 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
The problem with videos like this is that you have no idea how many people he interviewed for this segment. Couple that with the fact that the people (who had to sign a release in order to be shown) went into the interview knowing that if they just gave the right answers odds were that they would be thanked and shown the door while if they gave a stupid answer odds are they would be on national television. Given how attention-obsessed our country has become it would come at no surprise that some people would trade their dignity for a chance to look like an idiot being interviewed by the famous Jay Leno.

Very astute comment. This is television, entertainment, meant to be funny. It is only funny because most of us do know the answers to these obvious questions. If Leno were asking about the laws of thermodynamics or the Quadratic Equation, the appearance of ignorance would not be funny. Television is manipulation to gain and maintain audience.

And note the pervasive political correctness. If Leno had interviewed 20 white people who knew the answers, this would not be "newsworthy." Certainly not funny. But the appearance of a traditional two-parent black family, a rarity in itself these days, was the feel-good capstone, with "Grandpa" saving the day. Manipulation.

39 posted on 07/06/2010 6:39:33 AM PDT by Blennos
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To: rightwingintelligentsia; Pecos; Rebelbase; Ev Reeman; philman_36; Gondring; mathluv; ...
Oshka-boom is right. Sure, education in this country is a mess, but it has never been excellent...besides how many hits would these videos get if they were pieced together with Krauthammer types all answering each dumb question correctly?

Imagine watching a clip of Jeopardy and extrapolating from there that all Americans are savants.

How many American 18 year olds in 1914 knew who the Hapsburgs were and why they were fighting in Europe?

When was the "Golden Age" of American education then that we are trying to recapture? 1950's Americans who ended up ushering in LBJ's Socialist Society and trouncing Barry Goldwater?

BTW, is Jay dumb? He's holding a cue card with the answers. =)

40 posted on 07/06/2010 6:42:20 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: freeangel

Teachers unions should be sentenced to watch this once a day for the rest of their “teaching” lives or until students are taught history.

&&&
Sadly enough, there are many teachers who could not give you the correct answers.


41 posted on 07/06/2010 6:52:34 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Grandpa looks adopted.


42 posted on 07/06/2010 7:05:36 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Anything worth doing, is worth doing badly at first.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

These people need to be shamed for their monumental ignorance ~ and then quietly re-educated in a way which they would render them grateful for the land in which they live.


43 posted on 07/06/2010 7:06:56 AM PDT by incredulous joe
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

A friend of mine got her hair cut over the weekend from a 20-year-old stylist. My friend mentioned “Mount Vernon” and the stylist asked what that was. My friend explained that it was George Washington’s home. “Who’s George Washington?” the stylist asked. I kid you not.

I think the blame can be placed on multiculturalism, and its desire not to “offend” the “diverse” student bodies by emphasizing American history, (example, the boys who got in trouble for wearing American flags and offending Mexican students on Cinco de Mayo,) plus the fact that the Founders are “dead white males” and “slave-owning opressors” who aren’t taught anymore, and we end up with what we have today.


44 posted on 07/06/2010 7:10:05 AM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: DustyMoment

I agree with many of your points EXCEPT that most of the students are dumb. Really? Children are capable of doing and learning many things. It is the adults who are dumb because they have the capability to learn and don’t. Children want to be educated. Even infants become wide eyes and excited when presented with something “new”. Parents need to put away the Junie B books and pull out an old American history book. “nuff said


45 posted on 07/06/2010 7:52:28 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: sam_paine

My point about educators is that “teachers” with a closed-loop “you owe me” attitude and training system will never get out of their comfort zone - and actually pull the string on topics they teach and be able to educate the next generation. My specific pet peave du jour is the dumbing down of American history regarding competent patriotic blacks that fought in the Revolution. Most Americans would be hard pressed to pull out Crispus Attuck’s name, much less any others [yes, I know he was killed before 7/4/1776]. It is not in the Liberal mentality that blacks should be able to get ahead on their own, and therefore there could not have been any Rev War black heroes.

I use this one example, but any number of others could be brought up. People that are paid to teach owe it to themselves and their charges to keep improving the product, not just hang in there for retirement. As an engineer, I would get professionally shot in the head if I tried to pull the stunts that profesional educators do.


46 posted on 07/06/2010 8:10:10 AM PDT by Pecos
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To: momtothree
Children are capable of doing and learning many things. It is the adults who are dumb because they have the capability to learn and don’t.

Being capable of something is different from doing it. In the experience I had as a teacher, the kids knew at some level that they were being screwed by the schools and that they weren't getting the education they needed. But, rather than challenge their teachers to teach something other than the NCLB test, they preferred to dedicate their time to American Idol and other pointless pusuits.

I used to make it a point to find out what these kids wanted to do when they finished school. The two answers I got the most were Rap singer and pro athlete. Few of them aspired to anything else. With their focus on entertainment or sports, they didn't feel the need to obtain an education because they were all going to make millions as rappers or athletes.

I agree that, when presented with information and a challenge, the kids will generally rise to it and excel. But, that's not what they are getting from the public school system. We see it everywhere, not just Leno. The public school system has failed and the adults that you referenced, have also failed to demand better of the schools. So, what the public schools (in general) are producing are a generation of kids who are bored, ignorant and tuned out. The experimental education that I went through with "New Math" and "New English" several decades ago has become mainstream with an emphasis on everything BUT the 3 R's.

It is true that ignorance is bliss and too many of today's kids are happy as larks. I don't blame the kids for what they are getting from the schools, but it still doesn't change the fact that they are dumb. More's the pity.

47 posted on 07/06/2010 8:18:13 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I have a niece who would probably not know any more than the people on this video. Most of the people she hangs out with are not much brighter. And huge Obama fans.


48 posted on 07/06/2010 8:27:44 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: sam_paine
Sure, education in this country is a mess, but it has never been excellent

I'm not so sure that I agree. There are a number of schools that have cropped up in different cities that don't have huge budgets and the newest "shiny things", but the kids are learning. In the early part of the 20th century, there was an all black school near Washington, D.C. (when segregation was still in effect) called Dunbar High School. The graduates of Dunbar High School were on par with kids who graduatred from the best private schools in the country. In fact, the Dunbar graduates were so well educated that they were given automatic entree to Harvard if they could afford the tuition.

A number of revealing studies have shown that education standards began to decline at around that period of time and they accelerated the decline into oblivion by the last quarter of the twentieth century.

At one time, American public school educated kids led most categories of education by grade level around the world. Today, not so much. Today, unions, adminstrators and the government have united to create a "school" system whose products are dumber than when they first started their "education".

I didn't blame the kids for being dumb, that was just a statement of fact. I do blame the adults who tolerate it and rationalize it and refuse to demand better of their Board of Education. They know what theswe kids are up against when they graduate and they won't be up to the task.

49 posted on 07/06/2010 8:30:24 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
"need more money"

I was reading the comments made by people on a CNN forum concerning this issue. The libs assumed the people who didn't know their history were conservatives and it was because the Pubbies would not approve more spending on education. This despite the fact that the most ignorant segment of the know-nothings are the 18-29 year olds who were also the biggest Obama supporters. Also most of the nation's teachers are libs. Some conservative on the forum unkindly pointed that fact out to the lib commenters.

50 posted on 07/06/2010 8:33:36 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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