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A shotgun and other gun questions. [vanity]
July 6, 2010

Posted on 07/06/2010 9:05:52 AM PDT by bjorn14

I have come to realize that FReepers know more about guns than any group of people on the planet. So here goes.

Do you I need a special kind of shotgun that will take slugs (i.e. rifle-bore)?

Any recommendations for a .22LR semi-auto rifle for varmints and small game (14+1 or better)

Thanks you guys are the best.


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1 posted on 07/06/2010 9:05:54 AM PDT by bjorn14
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To: bjorn14

ar15.com is a great source to ask questions.


2 posted on 07/06/2010 9:07:22 AM PDT by devane617 (VOTE THEM OUT! ALL OF THEM!)
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To: bjorn14

Ruger 10/22

or

Marlin Papoose. This is a survival gun.


3 posted on 07/06/2010 9:07:25 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: bjorn14

I’ve found Mossberg’s Model 500 to be a sturdy platform (mine is 12 ga.) that handles rifled slugs, and isn’t too pricey.


4 posted on 07/06/2010 9:07:45 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Whoever disagrees with me at any point is a RINO)
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To: bjorn14
Ruger 10/22 or 77/22 (bolt) for first .22 rifle.

AA12 for the shotgun ;)

5 posted on 07/06/2010 9:07:53 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists".)
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To: bjorn14

AR-7 survival rifle, designed by Eugene Stoner.


6 posted on 07/06/2010 9:11:23 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: bjorn14

There are very few shotguns that will not shoot slugs. Make sure you do not get one with a Damascus steel barrel. Doubtful if you will even see one tho.
INMO, a Ruger 10-.22 is the best considering price. Very reliable, very accurate with the right ammo. Mine is a constantly accurate rifle out to 120 - 130 yards. Beyone that takes some luck. If I could only have one rifle, it would be a 10 - .22


7 posted on 07/06/2010 9:11:59 AM PDT by Rannug ("When you make peaceful protest impossible, you make violent protest inevitable." JFK)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I concur on the Ruger 10/22, never had a Papoose. The clincher was when my wife got into shooting. She liked it so much, it became “her gun”. We tricked it out a bit, and darned if she can’t emasculate houseflies w/ it! (outside, of course!)


8 posted on 07/06/2010 9:12:00 AM PDT by pingman (Price is what you pay, value is what you get.)
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To: bjorn14

Ruger 10/22 is a great varmint gun.
For a little less, Marlin makes a very good semi-auto .22 as well.

As for the shotgun, pretty much any of them will take a rifled slug, but you want to get one with a shorter barrel. Mossberg 500 is an excellent choice, and get the home defense package that includes both a 28” barrel for bird hunting and the 20” barrel, and the interchangeable pistol grip. Ithaca makes a very good short-barrel 12 gauge pump shotgun primarily designed for using rifled slugs for deer hunting. It is a little pricier than a Mossberg or Remington.


9 posted on 07/06/2010 9:12:59 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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why would you want to shoot slugs? are you deer hunting? if its for home defense go with buckshot, or a turkey load.

if you are shooting slugs, some shotguns can use a choke designed to shoot slugs and impart some rotation. but with sabot slugs its really not needed.


10 posted on 07/06/2010 9:16:09 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: bjorn14

My choice would be a Ruger 10/22...seems to be the choice of most Freepers too.


11 posted on 07/06/2010 9:16:20 AM PDT by Ammo Republic 15
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To: pingman

For a shotgun, consider a Remington 870. The slug barrel comes with sights. Remove one large nut and you can interchange barrels. The short slug barrel is great for parking by your bedside. You can use the same barrel for deer hunting. Add a longer barrel for birds and small game.


12 posted on 07/06/2010 9:16:34 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: bjorn14

Shotguns are generally fine with all types of ammo ... no special barrel needed. A barrel with a changeable choke tube allows for a quick change choke. Never had much use for rifled slug barrels, I just used buckshot for larger game. Pumps cheapest, Mossberg 500 and Remington 870 good, cheap.

IMHO — The best, most popular 22LR, is the Ruger 10/22. You can get good 25 round mags. I had one many years ago and shot it as my learner gun. Still the best today. Reasonably good enough accurate.


13 posted on 07/06/2010 9:18:08 AM PDT by Tarpon (Obama-Speak ... the fusion of sophistry and Newspeak. It's not a gift, it's just lies.)
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To: bjorn14
There are two general types of shotgun barrels - Smooth bore and rifled. Smooth bore shotguns will shoot shot shells, buckshot and rifled slugs. The rifled slugs have grooves on them to cause the slug to spin and stabilize.

Rifled shotgun barrels are very specialized and are made to shoot sabot slugs. These slugs are much like a rifle bullet and are held in a plastic sabot that engages the rifling to cause the slug to spin. The plastic sabot falls off after leavng the barrel.

14 posted on 07/06/2010 9:18:45 AM PDT by MtnClimber (Osama and Obama both hate freedom and have friends that bombed the Pentagon)
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To: bjorn14

A 22WMR (Magnum) is twice as powerful and better for varmints if you are serious.

I’ve been using Lever Actions which are nearly as accurate as a bolt but you can get the second round off much faster.

A 22lr is good for close range, but turtles really turn Muddy Bog into the Red River with a 22wmr.

Put hydraulic pressure on your side.


15 posted on 07/06/2010 9:20:08 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: bjorn14

Remington 870 combo comes with rifled barrel for deer. Ruger 10/22 for squirrels, rabbits..


16 posted on 07/06/2010 9:22:19 AM PDT by dznutz
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To: bjorn14

Shotgun, Remington 870 combo comes with rifled barrel for deer. 22 rifle, Ruger 10/22 for squirrels, rabbits, have a scope put on it.


17 posted on 07/06/2010 9:25:39 AM PDT by dznutz
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To: bjorn14

http://www.ruger.com/products/1022/firearms.html


18 posted on 07/06/2010 9:26:41 AM PDT by cowtowney
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To: bjorn14

The Marlin Model 60 is a good, reliable .22 rifle, and it’s inexpensive. Take a look at one. If it’s too plain, then you can keep looking, but it may be all that you need.

As far as the shotgun, as others have pointed out, just about any shotgun will shoot slugs. Pumps are generally less expensive than autoloaders, and very reliable. However, you do feel more recoil with a pump than an autoloader. The Remington 870 is good pump that has been around for a long time. There are a ton of models available with the 870, do some research.


19 posted on 07/06/2010 9:27:21 AM PDT by Stevenc131
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To: bjorn14
Do you I need a special kind of shotgun that will take slugs (i.e. rifle-bore)?

No, just about any modern shotgun will shoot slugs, you do want to avoid full choked guns as they may not be very accurate, the most accurate gun with deer slugs will be(generally)shotguns with a rifled barrel, but I have a remington 870 that was built into a slug gun and it has a smooth bore, extended magazine tube and scope and it is very accurate. Maybe the biggest thing is that rifled barrels will have rifle sights where as most smooth bore shotgun barrels have just one or two beads on the barrel.

Any recommendations for a .22LR semi-auto rifle for varmints and small game (14+1 or better)

The Ruger 10-22 is a classic as is the Marlin Mod 60, the mod.60 being a tubular magazine.

20 posted on 07/06/2010 9:28:14 AM PDT by muddler (Obama is either incompetent or malicious, and it makes little difference which.)
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To: bjorn14

My favorite shotgun is a 12 ga WARDS SLUGSTER made by Mossberg. Non rifled barrel.

My favorite .22 auto is a Remmington Nylon 66. Super accurate! Remmington doesn’t make them anymore. Check pawn shots for this one. Get one with the magazine in the butt stock.


21 posted on 07/06/2010 9:28:30 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Viva los SB 1070)
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To: bjorn14
For your semi-auto 22: Ruger 10/22 w/aftermarket magazine. No contest.

Re shooting slugs out of a shotgun: no, it doesn't have to be a rifled barrel, but keep in mind you're talking shorter ranges. Shotguns don't normally come with a very good precision sighting system. Mine came with a single bead sight at the end of the barrel. Two beads if I'm lucky.

If you're serious about slug hunting w/a shotgun, you would do well to buy a shotgun dedicated to that purpose. Or something that converts from one (upland bird hunting which is a longer barrel for "pointing" vs "aiming") to the other (a more precision shooting barrel).

That's the Remington 870 Express Combo

22 posted on 07/06/2010 9:28:37 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: bjorn14

I’m still using my 30+ year old 1100. Got a slug barrel, a trap barrel, a skeet barrel and a goose barrel, and another that’s ahhhh, somewhat shorter. Works for me!


23 posted on 07/06/2010 9:28:37 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: bjorn14

That’s great....

Now you started a thread for all the “Know it All’s and soon their cousins the “Know Everything’s” and their neighbors the “Have an Opinion ‘bout everythings” will be showing up.

I’d help you but my reference library of armaments fell over board, into the Monterey Bay, while I was cleaning my guns and gutting fish...


24 posted on 07/06/2010 9:28:43 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: bjorn14

If you’re looking to burn a brick of bullets in an hour, the Ruger 10/22 is the gun, with available 25-round banana magazines. Spend 45 minutes thumb-loading the mags, and 2 minutes emptying them.

If you’re looking for a super sweet, perfectly balanced .22 that can mount a scope and pick a flea off a squirrel’s nose from 75 yards, the Remington tube-feed 552 Speedmaster is the gun.


25 posted on 07/06/2010 9:30:01 AM PDT by lurk
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To: bjorn14
I have come to realize that FReepers know more about guns than any group of people on the planet.

Wrong. We have more opinions about guns than any other group of people on the planet, but you have to realize that some of those opinions are in fact anti-knowledge. Consequently, when you put knowledge and anti-knowledge together in the same thread, the result is potentially catastrophic. In particularly egregious situations, you may leave a thread dumber than when you went in.

26 posted on 07/06/2010 9:33:02 AM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: FateAmenableToChange

...but not this thread, of course. (ref. post 26)

The answers above are already great — a Ruger 10/22 will work on any varmint (although coyotes will likely take a while to keel over), and a mossberg or rem 870 smooth bbl 12ga will work for virtually any situation.


27 posted on 07/06/2010 9:39:51 AM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: bjorn14

Any shotgun can shoot slugs, but when I put a rifled choke in my Rem 870 I get better groups at 100 yds than without it at 50 yds.


28 posted on 07/06/2010 9:58:17 AM PDT by E.Allen
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(although coyotes will likely take a while to keel over)

Not if you pony up for one of these ;)

Norrell Trigger Pack

29 posted on 07/06/2010 10:01:21 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists".)
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To: Rannug

I bought my 10/22 brand new for around 40 dollars.


30 posted on 07/06/2010 10:04:14 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: bjorn14
A Mossberg 590 has a smoothbore that will fire buckshot or rifled slugs. The Ruger 10/22 is a great semi-auto but can be finicky with certain brand ammo resulting it failures to eject, feed, stovepipes, etc. Marlin makes a bolt action 981T that has a tubular magazine that will hold 25 Short, 19 Long or 17 Long Rifle cartridges. It is very accurate and you will be able to buy it and get a scope with rings for less than what the 10/22 alone will cost you. I bought the marlin because the 10/22 does not cycle shorts or cb caps.

I own the mossberg, ruger, and marlin myself.
31 posted on 07/06/2010 10:05:19 AM PDT by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I’d have never thought someone would mention the Remington Nylon 66. My grandfather bought me one on my 11th birthday in 1967 and I still have it. One of my favorites for sure...thanks for the mention!


32 posted on 07/06/2010 10:07:06 AM PDT by Ammo Republic 15
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To: bjorn14
For a shotgun, my first and second favorites are the Remington 870 and the Mossberg 500.

For a .22 rifle, it's hard to go wrong with a Ruger 10/22. Good right out of the box, plus there are plenty of aftermarket stocks and accessories available to make it better and more personal.

33 posted on 07/06/2010 10:07:32 AM PDT by GBA (Resistance is Constitutional!)
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To: Sooth2222

Barrels have a tendency to warp slightly otw a great gun!


34 posted on 07/06/2010 10:11:08 AM PDT by databoss
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To: Rannug
Just as an aside: A "Damascus" barrel is an old method of making a shotgun barrel where strips of steel were hammer welded into a spiral around an inner mandrel. This was a popular and inexpensive method in the 19th century, but with the advent of smokeless nitro powders at the beginning of the 20th century, the Damascus was quickly found to be too weak, and would split along the hammered seams.

This is where the "blossomed" barrel you see in cartoons came from. (Mythbusters, naturally, screwed up this story when they were playing with a-finger-in-the-gun-barrel myth)

I recall, vividly, all the warnings in American Rifleman, back in the 50's. Guns last forever, and hauling GrandDad's side-by-side Iver Johnson goose gun out of the back of the closet and loading it with modern shells was a fairly common mistake, then.

35 posted on 07/06/2010 10:12:01 AM PDT by jonascord (We've got the Constitution to protect us. Why should we worry?)
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To: bjorn14
Re: Ruger 10/22. This is the one I shoot. I added a scope to take care of bifocals. Picked off two skunks last week from about 100 feet.


36 posted on 07/06/2010 10:12:24 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, where Mr. Milquetoast lives with his "Persecution Complex")
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To: bjorn14

12 ga. slugs put really big holes in targets. Shoot the .22 first.


37 posted on 07/06/2010 10:12:35 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: bjorn14

Mossberg 500 or Remington 870 are both quality home defense shotguns for under $400. Things to look for are shorter barrel, 18.5” to 20”, capacity 7+1 and ease of use, i.e. point and shoot. Would not recommend slugs in the house as they will penetrate a car door at 50yds, dry wall offers no protection for innocent bystanders, i.e. children in the house. Get some 00 or 000 buck shot. BTW, don’t waste money on the fancy packaged HD ammo being sold at $25 per box of ten. Plain old Walmart $3.25 000 buck will do the job.

Both the Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 60 are great .22LR plinkers that can be used to take small game and varmints. Both rifles are almost universal in usage, have many aftermarket parts available and shoot quite well for inexpensive guns. Keep in mind that 50 - 100 yds is all you are going to get out of a basic .22 round so if you need more, start thinking about a .223 or .308 platform.

Good Luck


38 posted on 07/06/2010 10:13:49 AM PDT by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: pingman

The Papoose is a take down and removable barrell. I am as accurate at 100 yards with it as the 10/22. Only drawback is the Marlin Clips and magazines.


39 posted on 07/06/2010 10:14:24 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: jonascord

My son has found that pulling Great-G’dad’s Win 1894 30-30 (mfg. in 1896) out of the attic works just fine.


40 posted on 07/06/2010 10:16:03 AM PDT by Paladin2
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Remington 870 Shotgun. Very reliable.

If you are looking at 22...then I would suggest the Ruger SR-22. For the money this is the best 22LR rifle you can pick up. Basically gives you an AR platform for 22LR.

You can pick up a really good Leupold scope for the SR-22, something like an AR 3-9X40 for about $350.

But if you really want a decent varmint long rifle then I would suggest the Remmington 700 with a decent scope - in fact I would spend as much on the scope as the rifle.

For the 700 I would look at something like a Leupold VX3L 3.5-10X56 - that one will run you anywhere between $850 to a grand depending on what options, etc.

You are going to want a really good scope, especially if you are past that magic age of 45 where your eyesight is starting to take a hit. Iron sights are good to learn on so you have the experience but if you are really interested in personal protection and the ability to hunt to survive you want every advantage and the scope is just as if not more important than the actual gun.


41 posted on 07/06/2010 10:20:44 AM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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I have a 870 and just picked up a Benelli Supernova camo finish.

Did i mention the Saiga 12?

The poster should give his budget so we can give recs.


42 posted on 07/06/2010 10:23:45 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: bjorn14

BTW...your ammmo selection is going to be very important. There is a lot of crap ammo out there that jams, etc...and is really dirty (means a lot more cleaning).

Winchester, Hornady and Federal all have excellent premium ammo. Winchester Ranger is really great, never had a problem.

Of course for target practice any Winchester ammo seems to work well.

You will want to research on www.gunbroker.com and see if you can find a local private seller - that is the best way to purchase - depending on what state you live in.

Also www.luckygunner.com seems to have ammo most of the time albeit it can be pricey but at least you can get it.


43 posted on 07/06/2010 10:25:16 AM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: Utah Binger
I also shoot the Remington 870 410 gauge for pheasant hunting as it doesn't blow them to pieces like a 12 gauge.


44 posted on 07/06/2010 10:27:05 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, where Mr. Milquetoast lives with his "Persecution Complex")
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To: Paladin2
Good rifles don't have Damascus barrels. Shotguns did. The method of spiral hammer welding would have challanged any attempt at cutting the rifling in a bore. When you look as a shotgun compare the thickness of the wall to a rifle barrel.

Besides, Winchesters were top of the line, here in the US. You could buy a Stevens game gun out of a catalog in 1890 for $4. Winchesters were more expensive, and you got what you paid for.

45 posted on 07/06/2010 10:34:26 AM PDT by jonascord (We've got the Constitution to protect us. Why should we worry?)
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To: bjorn14
Here is the gun I grew up on. Remington pump 22 Model 12C Octagon Barrell. Just bought one last year. It's in better condition than the one shown here. A fabulous gun!


46 posted on 07/06/2010 10:37:33 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, where Mr. Milquetoast lives with his "Persecution Complex")
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To: bjorn14
Any recommendations for a .22LR semi-auto rifle for varmints and small game

You don't want a .22LR or semi-auto for varmints. The speed of the bullet is too low. This has several issues. First, distance matters a lot, and in the field you will see small game (or nongame, like ground squirrels) at all distances. Second, the .22lr hit may be not sufficient for an instant kill.

Thirdly, semi-auto rifle is not usable in the field because of the flying brass. I personally don't even take magazines with me. I load the round into the chamber by hand, close the bolt, shoot, wrap my hand around the ejection area and open the bolt. The case falls into my hand, I put it in a pocket. No littering in the field!

Besides, rarely a follow-up shot is possible on a small game. If you miss it's not by much, and the rodent in question is probably hightailing out of there so fast you can't even see it through the scope. Shooting at such a target through the scope is dangerous; shooting at it with iron sights is possible, but not very effective (the distances are too large, and the targets are small.)

I have a .22LR and .22WMR, but these are not my preferred varmint rifles. Not even .223, which I also have and like. The best one is .17HMR, and that's what you want for small game (up to a coyote.) 17HMR has very low recoil, allowing you to see the aim point through the scope after the shot; my .223 doesn't allow me that luxury, and I don't have a spotter. The 17HMR bullet is very fast (about 2500 fps) which means you can shoot at anything from 10 to 150-200 yards without touching the scope (just correct for parallax for very close shots, and hold over the aim point a bit for longest shots.)

The effective range of 17HMR is also better, about 200 yards. The ammo is not expensive, and it looks good too :-) There is lead-free ammo too, and I use it where I must, living in CA. The V-Max bullets which I kind of like stay entirely within the rodent (one hole in, zero holes out - all the energy is spent within the target, just as you want it.) The bullets are very effective, and almost any hit is a kill (though of course you should aim at areas that are prescribed for the species that you hunt; for squirrels it's the neck.)

I put about 300 rounds of 17HMR into one pocket, and that's enough to walk around for several hours. You can't do that with .223 rounds; you'd need a golf bag or a backpack :-)

So if you really want a rifle for varmints, please consider 17HMR. But of course if you want a semi-auto .22LR rifle that can also be used to shoot in the general direction of varmints, then that's a different story :-) Just remember that CA's Fish & Game code forbids scaring the game :-)

47 posted on 07/06/2010 10:41:55 AM PDT by Greysard
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To: bjorn14

I’m late to the party but...
for the .22 a Ruger 10/22 is hard to beat.
My shotgun is a 12 gauge Mossburg 590, but I don’t shoot slugs.


48 posted on 07/06/2010 10:51:15 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (If November does not turn out well, then beware of December.)
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To: bjorn14

May I suggest H&R/New England Fireamrs which have a combo rifle/shotgun.

They are single shot, break action weapons.

They are inexpensive and you may add sifferent barrels in different calibers with the center fire combos. Now owned and made by Marlin, they are a good quality, low cost option.

Rossi offers a similar package, the the H&R/NEF have better sights IMO.

Just an option if you do not plan on being the field very often for hunting


49 posted on 07/06/2010 10:51:35 AM PDT by ASOC (Things are not always as they appear, ask the dog chasing the car)
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To: bjorn14

May I suggest H&R/New England Fireamrs which have a combo rifle/shotgun.

They are single shot, break action weapons.

They are inexpensive and you may add sifferent barrels in different calibers with the center fire combos. Now owned and made by Marlin, they are a good quality, low cost option.

Rossi offers a similar package, the the H&R/NEF have better sights IMO.

Just an option if you do not plan on being the field very often for hunting


50 posted on 07/06/2010 10:51:46 AM PDT by ASOC (Things are not always as they appear, ask the dog chasing the car)
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