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Glenn Beck starts online 'university'
politico ^ | 7/6/10 | Andy Barr

Posted on 07/06/2010 9:08:49 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

Fox News host Glenn Beck announced Tuesday that he has launched an online “academic program” teaching classes in “religion, American history and economics.”

“School may be out for the summer, but for Glenn Beck class is just starting,” reads an announcement on Beck’s website. “This July, while others are relaxing poolside, head back to the classroom — from the comfort of your own home. That may sound like an oxymoron, but Glenn’s new academic program is only available online.”

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: beck; beckaversity; beckuniversity; christian; glennbeck; inmam; lds; mormon
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1 posted on 07/06/2010 9:08:54 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet

Progressives are going balistic over this.. They seem to have a problem with Glenn bringing Documented Historic Truth to the dumbed-down, liberal educated masses.. Why is that?


2 posted on 07/06/2010 9:10:57 AM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (Give me Liberty.. or I'll get up and get it for myself!)
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To: US Navy Vet

Good for you, Glenn. Now, while the iron is hot, Rush should get off his fat a$$ and start a Conservative News Channel. He has the money and the backers.


3 posted on 07/06/2010 9:11:14 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

Glen Beck does NOT have a union card to teach history, dontcha know?


4 posted on 07/06/2010 9:11:41 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: US Navy Vet
I like Prager University!
5 posted on 07/06/2010 9:22:43 AM PDT by stylecouncilor (What Would Jim Thompson Do?)
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To: US Navy Vet

I wonder how much of this online school will be the same stuff he does on his shows?

I mean, sometimes he repeats himself....a lot. I find if you listen to his radio show, you’ll hear most of the same stuff on his tv show, that same day. After a while, it does get redundant.

I love Beck and think he’s doing great work and is a true patriot. I have learned (and am still learning) a lot and am thankful someone is out there, restoring our history and taking the time to teach the correct past we all need to know. I agree it is vital to restoring America.

But I often wonder why he poopoos (and makes fun of) the birthers. It is a truly legitimate concern about the legitimacy of Barack Obama aka Barry Soetero, who NEVER officially had his name changed to Barack Obama and in fact, actually rescinded is US citizenship so he could claim he was a foreign student when he went to college. You’d have to be ignorant, not to at least, have some doubts as to why all the secrecy behind his records (birth, school, medical). And at the very least, of all the stuff Beck looks into and has his “watchdogs” check out, you’d think this “birther” stuff would be at the top of the list. If Barack Hussein Obama is NOT legitimate to be President of the US, wouldn’t that tear down the entire “empire” he’s building and nullify EVERYTHING that has been done under his watch???

So why doesn’t Beck take it serious? And worse, why does he almost mock those who question it? Why doesn’t Beck mention who else is behind Obama, and I don’t mean just Soros? He has mentioned the Rockefellers in passing...but is it too conspiratorial for him to look into and check out The Free Masons or The Illuminati? IMO, they are behind all this too, if not the true orchestrators for NWO.

And I think for all Beck does report, I’m starting to be concerned about what he DOESN’T report and why.


6 posted on 07/06/2010 9:23:59 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (I'll just say the 2nd amendment to the Constitution is there for a reason!)
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To: Lucky9teen

I agree with alot of what you say. However, I did hear somewhere that he was threatened with his job for mentioning Bilderbergs etc etc. So I think he has to keep a little bit of a lid on things. Just my thoughts


7 posted on 07/06/2010 9:35:40 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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To: US Navy Vet

Here is free on line learning:http://www.gcflearnfree.org/


8 posted on 07/06/2010 9:38:37 AM PDT by csmusaret (People used to faint when Obama spoke. Now they vomit.)
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To: US Navy Vet

American history and economics I get.
Religion.....not really sure about this one.


9 posted on 07/06/2010 9:46:29 AM PDT by texaschick
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To: US Navy Vet

If ya wanna learn it teach it; the only education is self-education!

Anything ya might hear from beck you coulda read it in the old Spotlight years ago.

beck also recently attacked the Americans of The Old South, along, previously, with many other Americans whose “conspiracy theories” beck disagrees with and/or faux-noose put him up to it.

http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2010/06/23/%E2%80%9Ci-agree-with-clyde-wilson-that-america-can%E2%80%99t-be-saved-or-returned-to-its-roots-until-the-republican-party-is-destroyed-%E2%80%9D/


10 posted on 07/06/2010 9:50:53 AM PDT by gunnyg (Surrounded By The Enemy Within--~ Our "Novembers" Are Behind Us...If Ya Can Grok That!)
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To: divine_moment_of_facts
Progressives are going balistic over this.. They seem to have a problem with Glenn bringing Documented Historic Truth to the dumbed-down, liberal educated masses.. Why is that?

Maybe because of his track record on the subject of history? For example: Link.

If Beck can't be troubled to read the confederate constitution before commenting on it, what else is he winging?

11 posted on 07/06/2010 9:53:29 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Abraham Lincoln: For when it happened too long ago to blame on George W. Bush)
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To: texaschick
American history and economics I get. Religion.....not really sure about this one.

What religion will he be teaching?

12 posted on 07/06/2010 9:59:59 AM PDT by dragonblustar ("... and if you disagree with me, then you sir, are worse than Hitler!" - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: texaschick

I wonder what religion?


13 posted on 07/06/2010 10:17:34 AM PDT by svcw (True freedom cannot be granted by any man or government, only by Christ.)
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To: stylecouncilor

Yes, it would be great if they were to pool their efforts. Could be some great synergy.


14 posted on 07/06/2010 10:22:17 AM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: svcw

If it’s religion as in the founding of the nation and our Constitutional rights, then this is a good thing.

If he wants to start teaching about one particular relgion... I’ll be annoyed and disappointed.


15 posted on 07/06/2010 10:27:31 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Utopia is being foisted on Americans for their own good.-- J. Robert Smith)
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To: svcw
In case anyone has any doubts about where the "religion" factor comes in, here is a indication.

The Five Thousand Year Leap: 30 Year Anniversary Edition with Glenn Beck Foreword W. Cleon Skousen (Author)

This audio commentary covers the entire Book of Mormon. The narration of the text is by the spiritually compelling voice of Wendell Noble. The historical highlights and explanation of its teachings are by W. Cleon Skousen, who taught the Book of Mormon at Brigham Young University for many years.

A summary of What We Might Expect in the Next Twenty-Five Years By W. Cleon Skousen

16 posted on 07/06/2010 10:28:18 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (If voters follow the democrat method of 2004 Obama will be named the worst president in history.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

PWY, I do not expect that he could teach anything else but his current beliefs.


17 posted on 07/06/2010 10:30:34 AM PDT by svcw (True freedom cannot be granted by any man or government, only by Christ.)
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To: svcw

Oh for heaven sakes, why don’t you just say it. Will he be teaching Mormonism. What crap. He’ll be doing what he’s been doing on his TV program, showing how our founding fathers were religious, and how our country was founded on religious principles, but for all the Mormon haters, of course they would assume, Glenn being a Mormon, that he will try to indoctrinate all of us to Mormonism. Geez.....


18 posted on 07/06/2010 10:32:15 AM PDT by flaglady47 (To bastardize Samuel Johnson, tyranny is the last refuge of scoundrels)
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To: US Navy Vet
Say what you will about Mr. Beck....but he certainly knows how to make money.

He's putting Mr. Barnum to shame.

You go, guy!

19 posted on 07/06/2010 10:34:26 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason ("Buzzard's gotta eat; same as worms.")
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To: US Navy Vet; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...

So, is he affiliated with BYU?

I wouldn’t trust a damn thing Beck said on religion, especially after the DSS/Nicaea debacle.

I wonder if he is going to include the LDS teaching that Jesus will reign from Missouri not Jerusalem?


20 posted on 07/06/2010 10:38:28 AM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: flaglady47
First show me where I ever said I hated mormons.
Next, under what stretch of the imagination is he qualified to teach anything.
The has a successful show. That does not make him an educator.
21 posted on 07/06/2010 10:44:38 AM PDT by svcw (True freedom cannot be granted by any man or government, only by Christ.)
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To: svcw

If you had ever listened to a current crop of public school teachers talk for more than an hour, you would probably realize that as crazy as Beck is - he is over-qualified.


22 posted on 07/06/2010 10:52:07 AM PDT by GunningForTheBuddha ("History teaches us that no one learns from history.")
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To: GunningForTheBuddha

Good one!


23 posted on 07/06/2010 10:53:34 AM PDT by svcw (True freedom cannot be granted by any man or government, only by Christ.)
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To: flaglady47; svcw
Did post 12 escape your ire for some reason? And based on the news release, it only states the following...

“Through captivating lectures and interactive online discussions, these experts will explore the concepts of faith, hope and charity and show you how they influence America’s past, her present and most importantly her future,” the announcement promises. Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39406.html#ixzz0svR9mvqh

It does not state that he's going to discuss "...how our founding fathers were religious, and how our country was founded on religious principles..."

Note that he's going to have religious discussions on the present and future. One would hope he would not allow his personal faith to be interjected into the "lessons", but since it's his "university", one has no such assurance.

24 posted on 07/06/2010 10:54:55 AM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: texaschick

Religion.....not really sure about this one.

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I’m DEFINITELY NOT sure on that one.


25 posted on 07/06/2010 10:55:27 AM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Non-Sequitur

If Beck can’t be troubled to read the confederate constitution before commenting on it, what else is he winging?

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Well certainly Church history and archeology he is winging.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2524510/posts?page=1#1


26 posted on 07/06/2010 10:58:18 AM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: dragonblustar

What religion will he be teaching?

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I will give you three guesses and the first two don’t count.


27 posted on 07/06/2010 10:59:09 AM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Non-Sequitur

“Maybe because of his track record on the subject of history?”

Hey Non, have you ever seen the actual, signed original copy of the Confederate Constitution?

Glenn stated that he was holding and reading the ORIGINAL copy, not a typed, posted, marked-up version on the internet. You can NOT say that Glenn is wrong unless you have seen the original which he (and Mr. Barton) says specifically reads as he stated on his show.


28 posted on 07/06/2010 10:59:44 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Hey Congress: Go Conservative or Go home!)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife; svcw

If it’s religion as in the founding of the nation and our Constitutional rights, then this is a good thing.

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Ah, but the LDS have unique (and somewhat heretical) views even on that.


29 posted on 07/06/2010 11:02:32 AM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: svcw

That’s what scares me.


30 posted on 07/06/2010 11:04:38 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Utopia is being foisted on Americans for their own good.-- J. Robert Smith)
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To: svcw

“irst show me where I ever said I hated mormons.”

You don’t have to. Your comment infers it for you. And Glenn Beck can teach whatever he wants. Got something against self-taught individuals? Like Abe Lincoln? Like Rush Limbaugh, like Sean Hannity. Or are you saying that you have to be a college educated, education major indoctrinated in socialist teaching philosophy, in order to be our sole instructors. Don’t read any of the great philosophers from the past to learn anything as most were not college educated either. Never become an apprentice to any skilled master craftsman, as you might learn something from those carpenters, bricklayers, electricians, who never graduated from college. Are you a snob as to where you get your education from? I suppose Bill Gates (another non-Grad from college) couldn’t teach you about business or computers. An army sniper shouldn’t teach you how to shoot a weapon, a shoemaker how to make and repair shoes. What are you doing on this website if you don’t believe in the concept of doing what you can do well and impart it to others. You are capable of checking that person’s primary sources and read on your own to find out if you are being led down the primrose learning path or not.

Glenn Beck never sleeps because he is always reading, reading, reading, learning, learning, learning, and now he has become quite expert in early American history. I would ten times prefer to get my American history from him than some biased, liberal Professor type, and most of the Professors at public institutions of higher learning are exactly that. I know, as I retired from one of those liberal public Universities, and was surrounded by the philosophical political enemy. I know whom I wouldn’t want as an instructor, as it would be an attitudinal problem, and that is you.


31 posted on 07/06/2010 11:06:04 AM PDT by flaglady47 (To bastardize Samuel Johnson, tyranny is the last refuge of scoundrels)
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To: Non-Sequitur

LOL! Heaven forbid something nice gets said about the Confederacy. We can’t be having that at all. No, siree bob. :>)


32 posted on 07/06/2010 11:07:19 AM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: flaglady47; svcw; RnMomof7; Godzilla; T Minus Four; greyfoxx39

He’ll be doing what he’s been doing on his TV program, showing how our founding fathers were religious, and how our country was founded on religious principles, but for all the Mormon haters, of course they would assume, Glenn being a Mormon, that he will try to indoctrinate all of us to Mormonism. Geez.....

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Well, he has and will continue to. Those who are brainwashed into Mormonism can’t help but spout what they are told over and over again. BTW, I hate MORMONISM, I love (and pity) those bound by the chains (Mormons).

On his show a few weeks ago he said THIS (which is VERBATIM LDS PROPAGANDA against traditional Christianity and completely WRONG)...he couldn’t even get the DSS right...

Glenn: “…the Dead Sea Scrolls, you know what they are? Stu, do you know what the Dead Sea Scrolls are?
Stu: Well, of course I do…
Glenn: Now, c’mon, most people don’t.
Stu: Well, I heard of them, I don’t really know
Glenn: You don’t really know. You have no idea why they were there. Sara average person doesn’t know. Any idea, take a guess on why the Dead Sea Scrolls were there, or anything else.
Sara(?): Something religious.
Glenn: Okay, good. Even though I’ve explained this on this program a couple of times, I’m glad to see that even the people that work with me don’t even listen. So here’s what happened. When Constantine decided that he was going to cobble together an army, he did the Council of Nicea, right,
Pat? Pat: Yea.
Glenn: The Council of Nicea, and what they did is brought all of the religious figures together, all the Christians and then they said, “Ok, let’s put together the Apostles’ Creed, let’s you know, you guys do it.” So they brought all their religious scripture together, that’s when the Bible was first bound and everything else. And then they said, “Anybody that disagrees with this is a heretic and off with their head!” Well, that’s what the Dead Sea Scrolls are. The Dead Sea Scrolls are those scriptures that people had at the time that they said, “They are destroying all of this truth.” Whether it’s truth or not is up to the individual, but at that time those people thought that this was something that needed to be preserved and so they rolled up the scrolls and put them in clay pots and they put them in the back of caves where no one could find them. They were hidden scripture because everything was being destroyed that disagreed with the Council of Nicea and Constantine. That’s what those things are.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2524510/posts


33 posted on 07/06/2010 11:08:32 AM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: US Navy Vet
...teaching classes in “religion, American history and economics.”

THIS should prove interesting!

34 posted on 07/06/2010 11:08:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: reaganaut

If he was going to provide a format for the best Constitutional minds to talk about freedom of religion, the Constitution, etc... and keep his religious beliefs to himself, that would be one thing.

But, I am wary of him. Because there have been instances where he has crossed the line and I’ve been very disappointed in him. I don’t listen to him in the same way, anymore. I listen very carefully and cautiously.

It’s the ill-informed that I’m concerned about.


35 posted on 07/06/2010 11:08:51 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Utopia is being foisted on Americans for their own good.-- J. Robert Smith)
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To: flaglady47

college history teacher here

i contributed time and money to both of Reagan’s campaigns

i suspect you’ve never been to college?


36 posted on 07/06/2010 11:10:34 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: flaglady47
Will he be teaching Mormonism. What crap.
37 posted on 07/06/2010 11:10:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: flaglady47; svcw

Oh for heaven sakes, why don’t you just say it. Will he be teaching Mormonism.

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I guarantee Beck will be teaching Mormonism, under the guise of teaching Christianity and esp Christianity in America.

And, sadly, those who do not know any better, will probably fall for it.


38 posted on 07/06/2010 11:11:23 AM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: flaglady47
 
 He’ll be doing what he’s been doing on his TV program, showing how our founding fathers were religious, and how our country was founded on religious principles, but for all the Mormon haters, of course they would assume, Glenn being a Mormon, that he will try to indoctrinate all of us to Mormonism.
 
 
OOoooh!
 
Showing!
 
I like SHOWING!!!


http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother,
“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”
 
 
And, continuing thru the years, the high ranking leaders of that Organization have done the same!
 
Joseph Smith continues: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith-History 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses, 18:172).
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses, 10:127).
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p.196).
 

 
It appears the above were statements made by MORMONs.  Mormon "haters" of Christianity at that!

39 posted on 07/06/2010 11:13:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: flaglady47
It is your accusation, this is not an answer: Your comment infers it for you

Either show me a comment of mine where I say I hate mormons or stop talking.

40 posted on 07/06/2010 11:13:28 AM PDT by svcw (True freedom cannot be granted by any man or government, only by Christ.)
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To: reaganaut

Oh, here we go again, all the Mormon haters showing up on this thread. I’m getting off of it now, as you people make me sick. Enjoy your bigoted, spiteful circular firing squad. I’m outta here.


41 posted on 07/06/2010 11:14:34 AM PDT by flaglady47 (To bastardize Samuel Johnson, tyranny is the last refuge of scoundrels)
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To: reaganaut
 
I wonder if he is going to include the LDS teaching that Jesus will reign from Missouri not Jerusalem?
 

 
 

Articles of Faith

The Articles of Faith outline 13 basic points of belief of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The Prophet Joseph Smith first wrote them in a letter to John Wentworth, a newspaper editor,
in response to Mr. Wentworth's request to know what members of the Church believed.
They were subsequently published in Church periodicals.
They are now regarded as scripture and included in the Pearl of Great Price.

 
THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535—541
 
 

  1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
  2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
  3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
  4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
  5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
  6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
  7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
  8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
  9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
  10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
  11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
  12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
  13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith


42 posted on 07/06/2010 11:16:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: flaglady47
I know whom I wouldn’t want as an instructor, as it would be an attitudinal problem, and that is you.

Oh, wow. I'll be bruised in the morning.

As a side note I have no problem at all with my attitude.

43 posted on 07/06/2010 11:17:02 AM PDT by svcw (True freedom cannot be granted by any man or government, only by Christ.)
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To: flaglady47
Mormon haters showing up on this thread

Again with the charge and again NO proof, so typical.

44 posted on 07/06/2010 11:18:10 AM PDT by svcw (True freedom cannot be granted by any man or government, only by Christ.)
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To: flaglady47
. And Glenn Beck can teach whatever he wants.

Just as we ANTIs will CONTINUE to post remarks and statements MADE BY MORMON LEADERS on FR.

And; MORMONs will continue to bitch that we are haters and bigots for posting these HISTORICAL FACTS.

45 posted on 07/06/2010 11:19:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SZonian

I wonder how much he will get into McConkie’s “Millenial Messiah” and how the LDS first presidency will reign alongside Jesus (as His right hand men) in Missouri and how the LDS will take over the US government then?

To the lurkers: No, I am NOT kidding.


46 posted on 07/06/2010 11:19:42 AM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Elsie

“And; MORMONs will continue to bitch that we are haters and bigots for posting these HISTORICAL FACTS.”

Look in the mirror.


47 posted on 07/06/2010 11:21:00 AM PDT by flaglady47 (To bastardize Samuel Johnson, tyranny is the last refuge of scoundrels)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
It’s the ill-informed that I’m concerned about.

Us, too!


48 posted on 07/06/2010 11:22:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: flaglady47
I’m getting off of it now, as you people make me sick.

Bye.

The jury will find that you have NO guts for the fight.

49 posted on 07/06/2010 11:24:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: flaglady47
Look in the mirror.

I thought you said you were leaving???


 
 


They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.
He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.
He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.
As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.
Who has made this so?
Have I?
Have this people?
Have the world?
No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.
If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.
If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.
Can you pass without his inspection?
No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.
In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.
They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?
They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?


"If I ever pass into heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of Prophet Joseph"
--Brigham Young
--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224



 
Dear Reader: what does it sound like to YOU?

50 posted on 07/06/2010 11:27:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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