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Kentucky Senate race knotted (Rand Paul / Jack Conway tied at 43%)
Public Policy Polling (via WSJ) ^ | 07/06/10 | Tom Jensen

Posted on 07/06/2010 8:16:35 PM PDT by coaltrain

Kentucky voters don't think much of Rand Paul and as a result the race to replace Jim Bunning in the Senate is tied. Paul and Jack Conway are getting 43% each.

The more Kentucky voters get to know Rand Paul, the less they like him. When PPP first polled the race in December Paul's favorability was a +3 spread at 26/23. By May it was a -7 spread at 28/35. Now it's a -8 spread at 34/42. The national media attention Paul has received has hurt his cause with voters in the state- 38% say it has made them less likely to support Paul while 29% say it has made them more inclined to vote for him and 33% say it hasn't had an impact on their attitude toward Paul one way or the other.

(Excerpt) Read more at onespot.wsj.com ...


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Paul's campaign team better get control of their man.
1 posted on 07/06/2010 8:16:40 PM PDT by coaltrain
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To: coaltrain

He’s got an incurable case of RPD.


2 posted on 07/06/2010 8:17:57 PM PDT by RightFighter (So this is how liberty dies - with thunderous applause!)
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To: coaltrain

We could very well lose this seat. Nothing good will come from nominating a Paul.


3 posted on 07/06/2010 8:18:54 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: coaltrain
I would bet old Rand has lost this one, stupid is as stupid does.
4 posted on 07/06/2010 8:19:05 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: coaltrain
Do you really believe that Kentucky is going to elect a democrat and give Obama more power? This poll is crap, absolute crap.
5 posted on 07/06/2010 8:20:07 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: coaltrain

I don’t know, I live in KY and everyone I talk to likes Paul.


6 posted on 07/06/2010 8:21:35 PM PDT by alicewonders
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To: org.whodat
So Kentucky is approving of Obama? Electing a democrat means more power to Obama I doubt that the Kentucky voters are that stupid.
7 posted on 07/06/2010 8:21:55 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: alicewonders

This is one crap poll. Do not believe it.


8 posted on 07/06/2010 8:23:04 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: jveritas
Are you asking me a question are are you making one of those stupid libertarian statements.
9 posted on 07/06/2010 8:23:59 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: jveritas

Regardless of what the poll shows, they really should have chosen a better candidate. However since that ship as sailed, I think they will choose him but will hate the next six years until they can get rid of him.


10 posted on 07/06/2010 8:25:50 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: org.whodat
I am not a libertarian. I asked you a question.
11 posted on 07/06/2010 8:25:55 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: Longbow1969

He is a lot better than open-borders Marco Rubio - who may lose in FL.


12 posted on 07/06/2010 8:26:50 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: coaltrain

PPP doesn’t have a great track record not to mention polls this far out are worthless. Anybody really believe KY is going Dem?

Pray for America


13 posted on 07/06/2010 8:27:03 PM PDT by bray (Did Rush say Complete Failure?)
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To: coaltrain

This poll is BS


14 posted on 07/06/2010 8:28:14 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: napscoordinator
I agree that they should have chosen a better candidate than Paul and I agree that they will elect Paul because I cannot imagine that Kentucky voters are that stupid to elect a democrat and give Obama more power. I am not sure that they will hate Paul that much in the next six years unless he totally messes it up.
15 posted on 07/06/2010 8:28:31 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: jveritas

Did I say ky was approving of obamma? NO, Never said that, next question.


16 posted on 07/06/2010 8:30:26 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: jveritas
This is one crap poll. Do not believe it.

I don't believe it. I'm seeing a lot of crap like this, trying to convince us that Paul is a losing proposition. They are scared of him. They know the voters are sick to death of "politics as usual".

17 posted on 07/06/2010 8:32:59 PM PDT by alicewonders
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To: jveritas

You could very well be right. Hate is a strong word and really didn’t mean “hate”. I just think that he will probably continue to say some crazy things because I think it is difficult to change when you are used to saying things like that.


18 posted on 07/06/2010 8:33:21 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: coaltrain
Rasmussen Wednesday, June 30, 2010:

Election 2010: Kentucky Senate
Kentucky Senate: Paul (R) 49% Conway (D) 42%
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/kentucky/election_2010_kentucky_senate

19 posted on 07/06/2010 8:33:54 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: coaltrain

This is the bottom line on Rand Paul and everyone who reads this should consider it deeply.

The odds are the Kagan is going to get confirmed to the USSC. Why?

Because not ONE US Senator has the nads to force it to 60 with a filibuster. I pray one will, but I do not see it actually happening.

But, if this was 2011 and Rand Paul was in the Senate, you could count on his “Dr No” obstinate obstructionist policies to BE that NO.

And he would generate such a media frenzy doing so as to provide cover for the weaker GOP Senators who’d like to be NO’s but can’t stand the media hits.

For all the Paul’s faults, and there is a list of them, THIS would be the one desperate measure when we would weep tears of joy at actually having a Senator named Paul.


20 posted on 07/06/2010 8:35:23 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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To: org.whodat
I would bet old Rand has lost this one, stupid is as stupid does.

And you'd lose your bet.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/kentucky/election_2010_kentucky_senate

21 posted on 07/06/2010 8:36:14 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: jveritas
Amerika has become too stupid to predict. Of course, polls are merely propaganda tools aimed at manipulating the dumb assed publik. Like all good little Lemmings, they follow each other onto Interstate Highways and over sea side cliffs.

Dependency is the 9th stage in Societal regression, the tenth and last being Tyranny. There are no doubts that this country is too far gone to save, outside of a miracle.

22 posted on 07/06/2010 8:43:30 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: org.whodat
Since they do not approve of Obama, in fact they have a massive disapproval of him, then they are not that stupid to elect a democrat for Senate and give Obama more powers unless of course you think that they are stupid.
23 posted on 07/06/2010 8:44:03 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: jveritas

Many people don’t like to be put in a fait accompli position. Having to choose Paul or 0bama for some people is similar to when many conservatives had to choose between 0bama and McCain. I would choose Paul and McCain, but I can see that some people choose the third option: stay out of it altogether.


24 posted on 07/06/2010 8:45:30 PM PDT by paudio (Mr. 0bama, focus on Gulf, not Golf.)
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To: jveritas
This is one crap poll. Do not believe it.

Right. PPP stands for Piss Poor Polling. Their polls are always liberal fantasies.

25 posted on 07/06/2010 8:45:30 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Holder needs to resign! Now!)
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To: SmokingJoe
"Kentucky Senate: Paul (R) 49% Conway (D) 42%"

7 points isn't insurmountable, especially with this much time less and considering that he was down by over 24 points less than 7 weeks ago. Rand Paul is just one more idiotic comment away from blowing this. They should lock him in a basement someplace, and not let him speak to anyone or say anything until after election day.

26 posted on 07/06/2010 8:47:50 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: jveritas
unless of course you think that they are stupid

Do you think it would be possible for you just to speak for yourself. I said what I think, I think the boy is as big a loon as his dad.

27 posted on 07/06/2010 8:49:36 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: RachelFaith
But, if this was 2011 and Rand Paul was in the Senate, you could count on his “Dr No” obstinate obstructionist policies to BE that NO.

THIS is what the good people of Kentucky are hoping for, a Republican Senator with a SPINE - like the one he is replacing - the great Senator Jim Bunning.

28 posted on 07/06/2010 8:51:08 PM PDT by alicewonders
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To: Longbow1969

The tide against Obama will carry even the most conservative and libertarian candidates over the top.

Its so bad that in a state like Kentucky if the Republicans ran Charles Manson and the Democrats ran Mother Teresa, Manson would win by 5 points.


29 posted on 07/06/2010 8:52:42 PM PDT by Nextrush (Slocialist Republicans and Socialist Democrats need to go)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; jveritas

PPP is showing a higher rate of Democrat turnout this year than in 2008. Their polls stand or fall on this assumption.


30 posted on 07/06/2010 8:54:20 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Good night. I expect more respect tomorrow - Danny H (RIP))
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To: OldDeckHand

Very true.


31 posted on 07/06/2010 8:56:10 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Good night. I expect more respect tomorrow - Danny H (RIP))
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To: jveritas
'I agree that they should have chosen a better candidate than Paul and I agree that they will elect Paul because I cannot imagine that Kentucky voters are that stupid to elect a democrat and give Obama more power."

While this isn't what Tip O'Neil meant when he said "All politics is local", I think that irrespective of the national political climate, it still comes down - in large part - the individual candidates. We see two people, in Angle and Paul, who have all the political winds at their back, but are still finding a way to make it as close a race as possible.

Although it sounds great to say "Let's throw the bums out and get some people from outside the beltway, inside the beltway", the problem is the outside the beltway rookies sometimes make boneheaded mistakes. The biggest upside to both Angle and Paul is that they are non-DC outsiders (kind of), but it's also their biggest weakness.

32 posted on 07/06/2010 8:56:23 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

That is an insane and delusional assumption that has zero relation to the real world.


33 posted on 07/06/2010 8:58:56 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: coaltrain
The Pauls are kooks. Get over them. We need serious conservatives, not these nut jobs...
34 posted on 07/06/2010 9:07:18 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: coaltrain

It`ll be interesting to see how certain `damaged` candidates do. The MSM are already getting their ducks in a row—if for example Paul loses it`ll be because of his `controversial` aned `rightwing` comments; if he wins it`ll be because of the `backlash against the first African-American president, with troubling anti-civil rights comments marring the reace` or something.


35 posted on 07/06/2010 9:09:54 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Barack Obama, the Coleman Francis of presidents.)
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To: Frantzie

You imagine that a Libertarian does not support the freedom of people to live just about where ever they want regardless of where they were born? Don’t be fooled by Rand Paul’s campaign rhetoric.


36 posted on 07/06/2010 9:10:52 PM PDT by JLS (Democrats: People who won't even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day.)
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To: coaltrain

The Democrats would have had a good shot at this race with us having nominated Rand Paul...but for the fact they nominated Jack Conway and their President’s approval is down in 30s in Kentucky. They’ll lose by ‘just’ 10-15 points instead of 20-25 when all is said and done...but the NRSC will have to expend resources here most likely to keep this seat that could have been used elsewhere. PPP is usually a left leaning poll so Paul is probably actually ahead currently by at least 5.


37 posted on 07/06/2010 9:12:51 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
America has become too stupid to predict.

Aye, there's the rub. Of course, about 1/3 of the voters can understand what the story is, and about 1% of them can be found on this site, exchanging alarmingly accurate apercus with each other, me included.

What is escaping us is "How to we reverse course?" That is, how do we get rid of the Marxist obamanations that now plague us. We obviously can't get rid of Obama and The Senate until 2012.

The good folks out there know the country is sick, but no one wants to take Dr. Paul's bitter medicine.

38 posted on 07/06/2010 9:14:52 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Time for Regime Change in America)
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To: coaltrain
After these goofy post on this thread no wonder people left FR in the early 2000’s.
39 posted on 07/06/2010 9:17:04 PM PDT by taxtruth (Something really stinks In The Federal Government/Mafia and I think it's BO!)
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To: jveritas

Since they contribute to Dem campaigns and talk about how they want GOP candidates to lose they have a certain ‘rooting interest’.


40 posted on 07/06/2010 9:22:57 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Good night. I expect more respect tomorrow - Danny H (RIP))
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To: Kenny Bunk
I believe we are in a much more unstoppable trend known as the 10 stages of Societal regression. Most experts in this belief see us between the 8th & 9th stage. (Apathy & Dependency) The more desperate things become, the more people become dependent on the Government. This is when the last stage takes hold; Tyranny. It also points out that on the average, most nations go through this process every 2 hundred years. Amerika is now 235 year old. Do the math.
41 posted on 07/06/2010 9:23:53 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: taxtruth

English grammar and logic are good things.


42 posted on 07/06/2010 9:27:37 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Good night. I expect more respect tomorrow - Danny H (RIP))
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Not when it comes to politics.It’s a very nasty business.


43 posted on 07/06/2010 9:38:10 PM PDT by taxtruth (Something really stinks In The Federal Government/Mafia and I think it's BO!)
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To: coaltrain
Rasmussen's poll, done at the same time as the PPP poll, shows different results.

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44 posted on 07/06/2010 9:42:21 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: taxtruth

Bill Buckley wrote about politics, He used grammar and logic and was often nasty. But people understood what he was writing, when he cut down on foreign words.


45 posted on 07/06/2010 9:48:04 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Good night. I expect more respect tomorrow - Danny H (RIP))
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To: org.whodat

Your choice is Ron Paul’s son who is more conservative than his more libertarian father or Conway who will vote for Obama every time he’s needed.

You guys in Kentucky better make that McCrystal clear to everyone your know!!


46 posted on 07/06/2010 9:52:17 PM PDT by Steelers6
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To: RachelFaith; alicewonders

You’re absolutely right and I am happy to see Kentuckian alicewonders agree with you. Were Rand Paul in the US Senate right now, he would lead a filibuster against Kagan!

Let’s not forget that Senator Bunning endorsed Rand Paul over Mitch McConnell’s boy, Trey Grayson, so I think Senator Bunning’s people will vote for Rand along with most other Republicans, plus the Libertarians and Independents will vote for Rand Paul.

KY will not elect the democrat to help further Obama’s Marxist agenda.


47 posted on 07/06/2010 9:56:15 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: coaltrain

I knew it; all Conway has to do is say he is really Alben Barkley, IV, and he will win in a landslide.


49 posted on 07/06/2010 10:06:28 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: onyx

Sadly, we do not have a Rand Paul in the Senate, and thus we WILL get a Kagan. I don’t think anyone of them currently in will do a filibuster and force the Dems to get 60. I know what is happening. A few Dems MUST vote no, so they are making deals with a few GOP who will vote YES to give these Dems cover. They have at best 58 votes, less if one will do a filibusterer and make noise on this case. And they do NOT have the 60. Whatever the vote is, in the end, it will be LESS than 60. We CAN stop this, but without a radical like Paul, none will.


50 posted on 07/06/2010 10:16:50 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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