Posted on 07/07/2010 3:17:29 PM PDT by ATLAHWorldwide
“So did St. Paul.”
While you may wish to equate “Dr.” Manning with St. Paul, I will would not, as unlike “Dr.” Manning, St. Paul did not burglarize people’s homes.
Uh, thank you for your explanation of why we never can do anything about anything.
My question is when are going to do something about it?
“Never a good word for our side.”
Why is it that your ‘side’ must depend on a man convicted for burglary as one of your leaders?
you stated;
Since the passage of the 14th Amendment in 1868 there are only two classifications of citizens: Citizens-at-birth and naturalized citizens. Citizens at birth can become president, naturalized citizens cannot. No court decision and no law passed by Congress has ever differentiated between a Citizen-at-birth and a Natural Born Citizen.
That is why the US Supreme Court has rejected all eight Obama eligibility appeals that have reached them.
Where in those cases did they cite your allegation? Nowhere. More deception by you.
You, of course are entitled to read my post in any way that you see fit. I hope your interpretation helps you make it through the night!
Why is it that you can never comment positively on the merits of anything that furthers the patriotic, conservative cause, but always find fault with proponents of our cause?
Why is it that you never express hope or desire that some issue will break on the side of right, but seem to ferret out every flaw of our champions to skewer them with?
I don't believe I've ever seen you make a positive or supportive comment about any person or cause that the majority of conservatives back.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I think you're an agent provocateur, Truman. Your posting history supports that contention.
While you may wish to equate “Dr.” Manning with St. Paul, I will would not, as unlike “Dr.” Manning, St. Paul did not burglarize people’s homes.
Just to be technical St. Paul did hold people's coats while they murdered someone. {Note that 'Paul' is the name used by Saul after his conversion to Christianity.}
You are putting words into the mouth of the Supreme Court and making assumptions not stating facts but posting them as fact, you are again continuing to be deceptive. Have you no shame? What kind of Master’s Degree thesis are you writing, Fiction?
I’m sorry but a man who served time in prison for breaking into people’s homes and stealing their belongings is not one who should be leading patriotic conservative causes.
Listen - I'm not defending this man's past. I agree that he's not the sort of individual we want leading the charge in any conservative cause.
My point is that no matter the issue, you always seem to dig up something to undermine our proponents or their arguments. You always take the contrarian side, which puts you under a light of suspicion.
Please be more specific.
And I do not believe that being a Birther is a requirement to be a conservative.
Please be more specific.
And I do not believe that being a Birther is a requirement to be a conservative.
I was specific. I said that your FR posting history proves my contention that you're an agent provocateur. Anyone can check your record here, if they like.
At the very least, you're a hopeless pessimist, who compulsively finds the negative in everything you look at. At worst, you're being paid to disrupt this forum, and demoralize conservative readers.
Again, please be more specific and enumerate the issues that I have presented a liberal view.
No.
I already pointed you, and everyone reading, to your posting record. Anyone who's interested can open it up and decide for themselves. I think the evidence to support my charge is overwhelming.
My contention stands.
Thanks for affirming my contention that you cannot find a post of mine which does does not reflect a conservative view.
Yeah, at least he can’t be accused of racism, because he’s even blacker than Obama himself!
You are putting words into the mouth of the Supreme Court and making assumptions not stating facts but posting them as fact, you are again continuing to be deceptive. Have you no shame? What kind of Master’s Degree thesis are you writing, Fiction?
As the High Court ruled in 1898: “The Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, in the declaration that ‘all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside,’ contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two only: birth and naturalization. Citizenship by naturalization can only be acquired by naturalization under the authority and in the forms of law. But citizenship by birth is established by the mere fact of birth under the circumstances defined in the Constitution. Every person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United State and needs no naturalization.
A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized, either by treaty, as in the case of the annexation of foreign territory, or by authority of Congress, exercised either by declaring certain classes of persons to be citizens, as in the enactments conferring citizenship upon foreign-born children of citizens, or by enabling foreigners individually to become citizens by proceedings in the judicial tribunals, as in the ordinary provisions of the naturalization acts.” (US v Wong Kim Ark, 1898).
Personally, I would absolutely love it if the Supreme Court would take on an appeal that would rule, once and for all whether there is any constitutional difference between a born citizen and a natural born citizen. The issue has never been adjudicated.
No, I have no shame. I had my shame surgically removed. I feel SO much better without it!
It will be up to my thesis committee to decide whether my research is a work of fiction or non-fiction.
Oh, I can find plenty, but I'm not your gopher, and I'm not going to run errands for you, just to prove something that anyone can see with one click.
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