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Troops get 'don't ask, don't tell' surveys (in the mail)
UPI.com ^ | July 8, 2010

Posted on 07/08/2010 4:58:02 AM PDT by xzins

WASHINGTON, July 8 (UPI) -- A survey seeking U.S. troops' views on the impact of ending a policy barring homosexuals from openly serving in the military is being sent, the Pentagon said.

The more than 100-question survey was being sent to 200,000 active-duty troops and 200,000 members of reserve forces, CNN reported Thursday.

Among other things, the survey asks about issues such as how morale or readiness may be affected if a commander is thought to be gay or lesbian, the need to maintain personal conduct standards and how a repeal may affect one's willingness to serve in the military.

The survey also asks questions designed to identify problems that may arise when troops live and work closely in overseas war zones and about reactions to dealing with same-sex partners in social situations.

Pentagon officials also discussed the repeal in private meetings with troops. Results aren't expected until the end of the year, officials said.

The Pentagon established a team to conduct the survey earlier this year to determine the impact of the repeal. President Barack Obama, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Adm. Michael Mullen back a repeal of the current policy.

A senior military official with knowledge of the process told CNN the Defense Department said it needs until the end of 2010 to figure out how to implement a repeal of "don't ask, don't tell" because of housing, medical and marriage benefits, and the issue of reinstating gay soldiers discharged under the policy.

The House of Representatives in May approved a plan that would repeal the "don't ask, don't tell" policy after the military's internal review is finished, and Obama, Gates, and Mullen sign off on the policy change. The Senate did not pass the measure.


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To: xzins; All

See ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ Surveys Hit Servicemembers’ Inboxes at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2548494/posts also.


21 posted on 07/08/2010 9:04:27 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: xzins

I have not received mine yet.


22 posted on 07/08/2010 10:11:13 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: MSF BU

I am in the Navy and find that ridiculous. If anything the Air Force is the service that is liberal. Well both of our posts are ridiculous as you cannot make blanket statements like that. If you still think that then please provide proof of this statement with some links.


23 posted on 07/08/2010 10:16:49 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: xzins; 185JHP; AFA-Michigan; Abathar; Agitate; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; ...
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Anyone who "signed off" on this perversion needs to get the BOOT as soon as 0thugga is out the door. After November, when hopefully Rs dominate the Congress, they can nullify anything 0thugga does.

I also hope that the service members' anonymity is assured, and how are they picking who to send these to?? I also do NOT like the "figuring out how to implement" this abomination. Why are they asking service members' opinions if they already plan on shoving it down their throats? I hope those answering the survey are totally anonymous and voice their opinions very strongly.

24 posted on 07/08/2010 10:43:37 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: ICE-FLYER
On the Air Force portal there is a confidential conference link allowing for us to leave comments and ideas

Can you see the remarks posted?

25 posted on 07/08/2010 11:05:47 AM PDT by Getsmart64
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To: Getsmart64

Nowhere can you see remarks. Now, this means they are taking it seriously to protect us as they KNOW that every homosexual militant would want our names, want to target us and wants to label us homophobes and such OR it’s just a placebo site meant to make us feel “involved” when really they go into the abyss of no action whatsoever.


26 posted on 07/08/2010 11:11:39 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

Thanks xzins.


27 posted on 07/08/2010 11:34:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: xzins
I'd love to see the actual questions on the survey. Since the perversionphiles probably had a hand in constructing them, I'm sure they're slanted and misleading.

"Are you homophobic or accepting of those nice gay soldiers?"

28 posted on 07/08/2010 12:02:52 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: xzins

Pound on your senators and representative incessantly. They’re begining to listen. We have to overwhelm them more than the homo-nazis if we are to make an impact.


29 posted on 07/08/2010 12:21:18 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude; wagglebee; little jeremiah; scripter

You are right. There are a number of issues:

Family housing areas are on and around every single military base.

Homosexuals are something like 10 times more like to engage in molestation than the general population.

Wag/Jeremiah/Scripter have the data on the homosexual agenda (truthfile) list.


30 posted on 07/08/2010 12:25:25 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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31 posted on 07/08/2010 12:29:35 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: xzins
"Yeah, I'll get to that survey right away, cap, just as soon as this last human-wave assault is over!"
32 posted on 07/08/2010 12:42:04 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: ICE-FLYER
The leftist marxists of our nation are purposefully using this venue to gain what the militant left homosexuals want...FORCED legitimization by government.

With, as a side benefit, a huge strike against the morale and unit cohesion which, together with equipment, doctrine, and recent combat experience, make the United States Army and Marine Corps the most terrifying field forces any potential adversary commander could ever imagine attempting to engage.

33 posted on 07/08/2010 12:48:32 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

You nailed it, my friend!


34 posted on 07/08/2010 12:53:09 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins; massmike

Xzins - massmike has a lot of info and facts at his fingertips; I don’t so much any more. But you are correct - the incidence of violent “partner” or domestic abuse and assault is much higher, promiscuity is through the roof, drug and alcohol abuse is much, much higher. Rape and molestation are of course much higher.

HIV is but one of the many reasons NOT to allow them in the military. But then, destroying the military is part of the plan.


35 posted on 07/08/2010 12:56:08 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah; massmike

and HIV is only one of the many blood-borne illnesses rampant in the homosexual community, BUT it’s the only one tested for by the US military.


36 posted on 07/08/2010 1:01:37 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: little jeremiah
I hope those answering the survey are totally anonymous and voice their opinions very strongly.

jeremiah, you know as well as I how little likelihood there is, given the kind of people we're dealing with -- people like Kevin Jennings and Elena Kagan -- that anything about these "surveys" will be on the level.

No way that this will be anything but a giant screw job if the Obamination has its way.

Remember what the homosexual activists have said, over and over again? "We will go back and affirmatively punish ....."?

Scum. They want to play identity politics? I've got an idea -- let's do this. Let's play, "DO ask, and DO tell." Then let them practice their crap in Antarctica with the penguins, clutching their General Discharges in their freezing hands.

37 posted on 07/08/2010 1:07:36 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: ICE-FLYER
Every point you made is right on the mark and perfectly expressed. This is nothing but a con game on the American people. The decision to lift the "ban" is already a foregone conclusion, the "survey" is just window dressing to attempt to appear considerate and to placate the vast majority of military personnel and their families.

But what should we make of this statement:

"A senior military official with knowledge of the process told CNN the Defense Department said it needs until the end of 2010 to figure out how to implement a repeal of "don't ask, don't tell" because of housing, medical and marriage benefits[???], and the issue of reinstating gay soldiers discharged under the policy."

So, are they going to repeal DOMA without actually repealing DOMA?

38 posted on 07/08/2010 1:12:07 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: little jeremiah; xzins
the incidence of violent “partner” or domestic abuse and assault is much higher

And domestic violence when it occurs is more violent. My grandfather was an assistant county prosecutor for many years in Indianapolis. He once told my father, you can always tell when a man's murder was a homosexual quarrel turned murder of passion, by the blood on the ceiling.

39 posted on 07/08/2010 1:13:05 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: MSF BU
My fear is that the unit sodomite will help fill it out for them.

That happened, back in the early 1950's, aboard a Navy cruiser. I think it was the USS Worcester, a big 13,000-ton light cruiser completed and commissioned just after World War II. The story was told to me in 1970 by a chief warrant officer who went back that far; the story was current when he was junior enlisted.

Some homosexuals had caballed up in the detailers' offices at BuPers and started assigning sailors they knew were gay to the Worcester. After a while, the Worcester had a gay Mecca going on, and the homosexuals were having faux weddings in the bos'un's locker up forward. The ship's doctor was in on it, and he was controlling any incidents that got reported to him and miscounseling any horny sailors who came to him with "personal problems". Eventually someone twigged wise to the shambles and the ring was broken up by NIS and rocks and shoals assigned to the guilty parties -- quietly, as the Navy didn't need the scandal.

But the scandal did throw a shadow, as such things do, on the careers of a lot of innocent service members.

For years afterward, anyone who served in the Worcester back then, when asked "where were you in [year] _____?" would answer, vaguely, "Oh, riding some cruiser ......"

40 posted on 07/08/2010 1:32:25 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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