Skip to comments.The Obama-Pelosi Lame Duck Strategy (Union 'card-check,' cap and trade, and so much more)
Posted on 07/08/2010 6:59:37 PM PDT by AtlasStalled
Democratic House members are so worried about the fall elections they're leaving Washington on July 30, a full week earlier than normaland they won't return until mid-September. Members gulped when National Journal's Charlie Cook, the Beltway's leading political handicapper, predicted last month "the House is gone," meaning a GOP takeover. He thinks Democrats will hold the Senate, but with a significantly reduced majority.
The rush to recess gives Democrats little time to pass any major laws. That's why there have been signs in recent weeks that party leaders are planning an ambitious, lame-duck session to muscle through bills in December they don't want to defend before November. Retiring or defeated members of Congress would then be able to vote for sweeping legislation without any fear of voter retaliation.
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National Journal's Charlie Cook, the Beltway's leading political handicapper, predicted last month "the House is gone," meaning a GOP takeover. He thinks Democrats will hold the Senate, but with a significantly reduced majority.
I’m sensing Bela is becoming paranoid...she’s been very quiet the last two weeks......and an email she put out asking for donations for her “defense fund” is telling......
Repubs need to hang together - especially those 41 in the Senate.
And a clever incoming House Speaker might have a chat with our young president, inquiring if the president wants to get ANYTHING done in the next two years.
I M P E A C H M E N T !
And without 2/3’s of both houses to override a Veto, you won’t be able to repeal any of it.
Have a nice day. :)
....seriously though, :(
If that happens, Republicans should pass whatever funding is required, force a vote on a repeal of the lame duck session laws, and then shut down the government until Obama cooperates.
Maybe they could repeal NAFTA ...
paging Darryl Issa, please pick up the white impeachment hearings telephone.
I’d say the one up side is that it would endanger the remaining Democrats two years later. Not much of an up side though, because it would also doom the economy.
The House, however, controls the purse strings.
If the rats pass legislation in the Lame Duck session that the new Congress disagrees with, the new Congress....meaning, the House of Representatives....should refuse to fund the new programs passed during the Lsme Duck session.
They can de-fund any program. FUBO
Oh, they are SO wrong about the voter retaliation part.
To borrow a line from Gandalf, YOU...shall not PASS!!!!!!
OK, having said that, what is the legal game plan that can overcome yet another dirty trick post-election?
Fortunately McConnell apparently has the necessary parliamentary skills, and doesn't have to worry about reelection himself until 2014.
Do it in December, Mitch. SHUT HER DOWN! Nothing, NOTHING, gets done, nothing gets passed.
There is one little word they may not like....Fillibuster! They only have 57 votes in the Senate now and can’t pass anything if the other side stands strong and together. Too late you lose. They can pass whatever they want in the house it will never make it through the Senate.
Thank you for the info! Hope it’s reliable.
Would our guys really have the balls to do that?
With Keith Olbermann dragging an endless parade of victims before his cameras?
People surprise me all the time, I’m just saying.
I am praying... at least some are talking about it.
Go for it!
The lame duck concern is being over-hyped. There will be plenty of Senate RATS who are already at risk for 2012 and will not consent to an aggressive lame duck session, particularly as they witness the GOP gaining around 7 Senate seats in November. These RATS will be terrified. Ben Nelson is a good example; he’s already running for re-election, oblivious to the fact that he is toast due to his unforgiveable health care vote.
The ABUSES and HORRIFYING ATTEMPTED DISMANTLING OF AMERICA insists on these events.
Hate to say it, but this is also the last black President I will see in my lifetime. Obama spoiled it for a good black man.
“Repubs need to hang together - especially those 41 in the Senate”
I believe they will hold together. The session is only for like a month, and WE will need to hold their feet to the fire, but after the shallacking the Dems take in November, the Repubs should have all the political backbone they need to block everything attempted during this lame-duck session.
Personally, I’m not too worried about it.
The republicans should have enough votes to shut down the Senate during that time, unless the bastards try to pass EVERYTHING via reconciliation.
The Senate still has the power of the filibuster so I don’t see how anything really destructive can make it through.
You know that push to bring all the “first responders”, the police, fire, paramedics, etc, all under one federal union? Well, Pelosi tacked it onto the military funding bill at the last minute after all debate was ended. It would take away all local control of police, fire and paramedics. The hiring, firing, pay and promotions would all be union controlled, based on union seniority. They could sent inner city, former gang bangers to serve in your local fire house or police station, all the while demanding the same wages for the small town officer as for the NYC patrol man. You will love it.
Card Check is so awful that even the Dems secretly don’t want to pass it. Dems continue to pay it lip service though as they want the Union campaign donations to keep rolling in. What happens when the Union bosses realize that the Dem double-talkers have played them for schmucks?
Any lame ducks that try this stuff better find new names, professions and places to live.
First in line....Franklin Raines of Fannie and Freddie.
The new Congress doesn't have to fund ANY of it.
“Retiring or defeated members of Congress would then be able to vote for sweeping legislation without any fear of voter retaliation.”
That remains to be seen. Some of the scum had better build themselves bunkers.
“They can de-fund any program.”
That’s going to be the key. FUBO!!!
“Fortunately McConnell apparently has the necessary parliamentary skills, and doesn’t have to worry about reelection himself until 2014.”
If he does the right thing, he’ll get re-elected in a landslide.
I am hoping this specter (investigations and criminal prosecution) hangs over Democrats in Congress who attempt a scorched earth policy of legislation. The wrong thing to do when the pot is boiling is to turn up the stove to full.
Well, there is that nuclear option thing, and of course, there are many RINOS among the Republicans, and some of them will just have been reelected. Therefore, they may not be so worried about the voters back home anymore. I can already feel the stab in the back.
The House can pass all the desperate lame duck legislation they want, but it will die in the Senate with not so much as a whimper.
obama has screwed up more than that... but I understand what you are saying. It also has shown the racism on behalf of the 91% of blacks that voted for him and the 91% that apporove of what he is doing today... the curtain has been pulled back and long-hidden racism has been brought into the light.
Please, Democrats. Do it! Healthcare legislation has killed most of your chances of getting elected and if you pass any legislation against the people you will pay in November and in 2012.
The Democrats will be the minority party for 50 years if they try anything like this.
This is the democrat party version of Scorched Earth, and I hope conservatives and republicans everywhere refer to it as such, and keep doing so. Let Americans see what happens when you let democrats have control of anything.
I think members of Congress who try this lame duck crap should be held PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for their vote even after they leave office.
That's the best news I've had in a long time. Can you please elaborate a bit without endangering anyone?
The American people must demand Special Prosecutors to investigate this obvious political collusion designed to destroy our country. Madoff could use some cell mates to spend his days with while they all rot in their cells together.
What a strong Speaker of the House would say is, "Thank you for your opinion Mr. President, but according to the U.S. Constitution, it is the Legislative Branch that has the power to create law. Your responsibilities and powers are clearly enumerated within the same document, and I would highly encourage that you take the time to read it."