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Biggest Defaulters on Mortgages Are the Rich
NY Times ^

Posted on 07/08/2010 10:25:14 PM PDT by Tempest

More than one in seven homeowners with loans in excess of a million dollars are seriously delinquent, according to data compiled for The New York Times by the real estate analytics firm CoreLogic.

By contrast, homeowners with less lavish housing are much more likely to keep writing checks to their lender. About one in 12 mortgages below the million-dollar mark is delinquent.

Though it is hard to prove, the CoreLogic data suggest that many of the well-to-do are purposely dumping their financially draining properties, just as they would any sour investment.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: bs; priviledge; rich; scammers
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To: Tempest

Well there’s hustler hustling, then there is hustle that goes with bustle and being busy.


21 posted on 07/08/2010 10:51:34 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I got my first job from a homeless man washing rats in the Bowery. Paid a wooden nickle and hour, and I was happy to have it.


22 posted on 07/08/2010 10:51:40 PM PDT by Hexenhammer (sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Hexenhammer

Woahhh the rich never overextend themselves and abandon investments when they go sour....

Such a conclusion would be too logical and we don’t want logic now do we.


23 posted on 07/08/2010 10:52:37 PM PDT by Tempest (I give up)
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To: Tempest

You mean they were raising money by selling counterfeit Tupperware?!?


24 posted on 07/08/2010 10:52:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

And crosses made from moon crystals to show their piety.


25 posted on 07/08/2010 10:53:35 PM PDT by Tempest (I give up)
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To: Hexenhammer

Huh. Who woulda guessed there was a demand on the street for clean rats?


26 posted on 07/08/2010 10:53:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Those were different times.


27 posted on 07/08/2010 10:54:58 PM PDT by Hexenhammer (sic semper tyrannis)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Personal responsibility is only for people that can’t afford it...


28 posted on 07/08/2010 10:56:11 PM PDT by Tempest (I give up)
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To: Tempest

And yet your condition still hasn’t changed. My but life is so unfair...


29 posted on 07/08/2010 10:56:39 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: rabscuttle385

refer to post #28


30 posted on 07/08/2010 10:57:57 PM PDT by Tempest (I give up)
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To: Tempest

Now there is a finding for you:

1. People who borrow a lot of money for their house are more likely to have trouble paying it back.

2. People who borrow more modest amounts for their house are more likely to be able to pay the loan.

And this finding is suppose to be interesting? BTW, who says that someone with a bigger loan is rich?


31 posted on 07/08/2010 10:59:57 PM PDT by JLS (Democrats: People who won't even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day.)
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To: Casaubon

no not really

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2010/07/09/business/09rich_graphic.html?ref=economy


32 posted on 07/08/2010 11:01:23 PM PDT by Tempest (I give up)
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To: Tempest

Good article...


33 posted on 07/08/2010 11:01:37 PM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: Tempest; rabscuttle385

The worse problem here is that this survey didn’t classify examples by income, but by size of mortgage. Easy money and ready job availability once meant it was possible to buy much more house than one could afford by older, more sensible standards. This could mean over-leveraged rather than filthy rich. As long as house prices were rising and money was easy, it was also easy to reason that, in a personal financial crisis, you’d just sell the house, make more economical arrangements for the future, and that would be that.


34 posted on 07/08/2010 11:04:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Grizzled Bear

avoid living beyond your means and pray. Alot


35 posted on 07/08/2010 11:05:03 PM PDT by Tempest (I give up)
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To: Tempest
And worse off, there are still plenty of sheep that buy into that big steaming pile of crap.

are you referring to this article?

36 posted on 07/08/2010 11:05:42 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: Tempest

Good advice for everyone.


37 posted on 07/08/2010 11:06:05 PM PDT by Hexenhammer (sic semper tyrannis)
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To: dennisw
Yeah, unfortunately most respondents to the thread haven’t read it to it's entirety
38 posted on 07/08/2010 11:07:36 PM PDT by Tempest (I give up)
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To: Tempest

Lies, damn lies, and statistics. Most studies that try to assign cause/effect relationships correct the data for other factors. Because million dollar mortgages are a VERY small fraction of the mortgage marketplace (million dollar MORTGAGE, not house), the statistics are very susceptible to other strong correlations in the data. Where are the million dollar mortgages? Primarily in California. And the underemployment rate in CA is, what, 25%??? What percentage of mortgages in CA are upside down??? I would like to see the default rate when corrected for unemployment, market conditions, even PITI as a percentage of current income. If the ‘wealthy’ truly are abandoning their financial responsibilities, the fallout is what, the wealthy pay more taxes? If that is the case, seems like self preservation to me. I always thought the taxpayer money going for mortgage assistance was a slap to the face of those that followed the rules and bought within their means. If the wealthy are really opting for strategic defaults, I can;t say that I blame them... the message has been “you really need to pay your share so that people upside in their ill-advised mortgages can keep their homes.” When the policy rewards irresponsibility, what incentive is there to remain responsible???


39 posted on 07/08/2010 11:08:09 PM PDT by leakinInTheBlueSea
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To: HiTech RedNeck

So you assume that there aren’t more stringent qualifying standards when you get into the higher priced jumbo loan style homes?

Really?


40 posted on 07/08/2010 11:09:54 PM PDT by Tempest (I give up)
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