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Belgium considers proposals to dissolve bodies and flush them into sewage systems
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 07/09/2010 | ALLAN HALL

Posted on 07/09/2010 10:41:14 AM PDT by massmike

It could hardly be said to be the most dignified of send-offs.

Undertakers in Belgium plan to eschew traditional burials and cremations and start dissolving corpses instead. The move is intended to tackle a lack of burial space and environmental concerns as 573lbs of carbon dioxide are released by each cremated corpse.

Members of the EU Commission must rule on the Belgian proposal as there are concerns that residual waste could be flushed into the drainage system.

In resomation the body is placed in a silk bag, itself placed within a metal cage frame. This is then loaded into a Resomator. The machine is filled with a mixture of water and potassium hydroxide. The end result is a small quantity of green-brown tinted liquid containing amino acids, peptides, sugars and salts and soft, porous white bone remains which are easily crushed. The white ash can then be returned to the next of kin of the deceased. The liquid can be recycled back to the ecosystem by being applied to a memorial garden or forest or simply put into the sewerage system.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: acid; acidbath; belgium; capandtrade; carboncult; climatechange; climategate; corpsedisposal; cremation; deathindustry; energy; ghouls; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; greenreligion; hidethebodies; peoplehate; resomation
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1 posted on 07/09/2010 10:41:22 AM PDT by massmike
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To: massmike
The vessel of the human soul reduced to its constituent chemicals and disposed of accordingly by .....Government.

The day will come when the ......Government....will dispense with the notion of the 'human soul'. 'Management' of the ecosystem can then be done indiscriminantly and arbitrary exigency will prevail.

2 posted on 07/09/2010 10:44:21 AM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: massmike

Flushed.

What is wrong with these people?


3 posted on 07/09/2010 10:50:31 AM PDT by RedRedRose
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To: massmike
Can Soylent Green be far behind?

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4 posted on 07/09/2010 10:51:59 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (The upcoming election is the most important in our lifetimes!!!)
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To: massmike

No soylent green?


5 posted on 07/09/2010 10:52:25 AM PDT by verity (Obama, the bullshit and rhetoric President)
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To: massmike
The move is intended to tackle a lack of burial space and environmental concerns as 573lbs of carbon dioxide are released by each cremated corpse.

This doesn't pass the smell/logic test. How did they figure this?

6 posted on 07/09/2010 10:55:37 AM PDT by akorahil (Thank You and God bless all Veterans. Truly, the real heroes.)
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To: massmike

Disgusting and the idea of that stuff going into the waste water system is horrifying.


7 posted on 07/09/2010 10:55:47 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: massmike

Sounds like the next big greenie scam.

http://www.resomation.com/


8 posted on 07/09/2010 10:56:11 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: massmike

Where is the respect for the dead? No matter how little burial space is available or how supposedly polluting cremation is, those are your only two choices and still maintain respect for the deceased.


9 posted on 07/09/2010 10:56:36 AM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: akorahil

Could also include the CO2 released by the combustion of the natural gas used in cremating.


10 posted on 07/09/2010 10:57:40 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: massmike

This is rapidly becoming the answer I wish to and imagine giving to all the things these bastards propose: Flip safety to “off” and say “go ahead, you first”.


11 posted on 07/09/2010 10:58:41 AM PDT by katana (For what is an Irishman ? But a .......)
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To: massmike

Loony


12 posted on 07/09/2010 11:02:16 AM PDT by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: massmike; Slings and Arrows
The move is intended to tackle a lack of burial space and environmental concerns as 573lbs of carbon dioxide are released by each cremated corpse.

Maybe they could feed them to hogs and then burn the hogs (as some European nations are doing with rabbit corpses) to fuel power plants.

13 posted on 07/09/2010 11:04:43 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: bigredkitty1
Where is the respect for the dead?

How can we expect them to respect the dead when they don't respect the living?(abortion,health-care rationing,death panels;etc....)

14 posted on 07/09/2010 11:04:51 AM PDT by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: massmike
The move is intended to tackle a lack of burial space and environmental concerns as 573lbs of carbon dioxide are released by each cremated corpse.

How does a corpse result in 573 lbs of carbon dioxide? The average body is 55% water, 19% fat, 19% protein. The rest is "ash", calcium and phosphorous. The carbon containing fraction is the fat/protein at 36%.

15 posted on 07/09/2010 11:05:58 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: massmike

Well it will certianly give them the means to dispose of bodies without a trace should they ever want to purge the populace of the politically incorrect.


16 posted on 07/09/2010 11:06:26 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: massmike
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17 posted on 07/09/2010 11:08:34 AM PDT by Track9 (Liberals are cruel hateful people who think they pass as respectable citizens.)
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To: bigredkitty1

If there is “no disrespect” in forcing everyone to be disolved, then there is “no disrespect” in digging up EVERY SINGLE GRAVE and doing likewise with those remains. They can reclaim the real estate and use it for green farming.

That is, if no one will be offended.


18 posted on 07/09/2010 11:09:12 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: Dick Bachert

“Can Soylent Green be far behind?”

Soylent Brown.


19 posted on 07/09/2010 11:09:40 AM PDT by PLMerite (The FR clock is now three minutes fast.)
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To: Track9

The Belgians will find themselves turning into batteries.


20 posted on 07/09/2010 11:10:04 AM PDT by Track9 (Liberals are cruel hateful people who think they pass as respectable citizens.)
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To: massmike

The white ash can then be returned to the next of kin of the deceased.....as an edible pill.

Grandma: Not just for (cooking) breakfast anymore.


21 posted on 07/09/2010 11:10:36 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: Myrddin
How does a corpse result in 573 lbs of carbon dioxide? The average body is 55% water, 19% fat, 19% protein. The rest is "ash", calcium and phosphorous. The carbon containing fraction is the fat/protein at 36%.

Guess what? The bodies don't spontaneously combust! Nor are they especially flammable. Rather, the crematoria have to expend a lot of carbon-rich fuel to burn up the bodies. The resultant carbon dioxide is then released into the atmosphere.

Regards,

22 posted on 07/09/2010 11:20:36 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: a fool in paradise
They can reclaim the real estate and use it for green farming. That is, if no one will be offended.

Well, Belgium isn't exactly known for its wealth of old Indian burial grounds.

Poltergeist, anyone?

Regards,

23 posted on 07/09/2010 11:22:50 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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This is just creepy to me. Flushed, for one, disrespectful, and second, the chemicals, in our water systems. Does anyone else see a potential problem on the horizon here? Don’t we already have tons of things like birth control pills, pesticides, hormones, etc... going down there already and causing problems? We CANNOT live without water, and there is only so much of it, we don’t need to pollute it more. It’s just a bad idea, I think.


24 posted on 07/09/2010 11:24:27 AM PDT by ThePatrioticArtist
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To: alexander_busek

Maybe so, but not 573 lbs.


25 posted on 07/09/2010 11:25:27 AM PDT by John D
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To: massmike

Soylent Green?


26 posted on 07/09/2010 11:27:32 AM PDT by SF_Redux
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To: alexander_busek
I have a question about the precision of that "573" pounds. There is quite a bit more variation in bodies than will justify three significant digits.

And before anybody takes a cheap shot at me for nitpicking, ask yourself first how long civilization will survive if nobody, literally nobody, thinks of such things.

It'll be back to the plow for all of ya.

27 posted on 07/09/2010 11:35:20 AM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: massmike

my momma didn’t raise me to be no ChemLawn


28 posted on 07/09/2010 11:43:12 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: massmike

This is just wrong on so many levels.


29 posted on 07/09/2010 12:00:41 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Comrade O has to go; FIRE THE SHIFTLESS KENYAN NOW !!!)
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To: massmike

Do these morons have any clue how much energy is consumed manufacturing the Potassium Hydroxide (or Sodium Hydroxide) that they are planning to use?


30 posted on 07/09/2010 12:05:26 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Comrade O has to go; FIRE THE SHIFTLESS KENYAN NOW !!!)
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To: massmike

When the nit wit in the White House jumps on board with this, we’ll just call it ZERO WATER.


31 posted on 07/09/2010 12:34:23 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: John D
Maybe so, but not 573 lbs.

Carbon has a molecular weight of 12 grams. O2 has a molecular weight of 32 grams. Carbon dioxide thus has a molecular weight of 44 grams (12 g of C + 32 g of O2 = 44 g). 573 lbs (260 kg) of CO2 is thus equivalent to 5906 mols (260 kg / 0.044 kg). 70.9 kg of carbon (12 g/mol * 5906 mol) and 189 kg of O2 (32 g/mol *5906 mol) combine to form 260 kg of CO2.

We can thus conclude that the Belgian estimate is based upon the assumption that, during the cremation process, roughly 70.9 kg of carbon goes up in flames. The body of a 100-kg man (like myself) contains approx. 18 kg of carbon. So we must assume that roughly 53 kg of carbon from other sources, including the deceased person's burial clothing, cerements (grave-clothes and shroud), the wooden coffin - but also supplemental fuel to initiate combustion and to keep the fires stoked - are likewise consumed in the process.

In short, about only about one-quarter of the carbon dioxide emissions can be attributed directly to the human body, and the remaining three-quarters from "other sources."

In view of these considerations, it thus appears that the Belgian estimate is actually a rather conservative figure!

Regards,

32 posted on 07/09/2010 12:56:10 PM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: massmike

Can’t believe I’m first with this:

“Crappy idea..”


33 posted on 07/09/2010 1:16:01 PM PDT by Nabber
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To: massmike
This is simply another move to degrade respect for human life.

Nothing more.

They are cloaking this in green weenie terms to make it more palatable for the average idiot to consume, but this is meant to desensitize, period.

34 posted on 07/09/2010 2:12:09 PM PDT by JOAT
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To: thulldud
There is quite a bit more variation in bodies than will justify three significant digits.

I think they barbecue all ten of 'em. Could be wrong.

35 posted on 07/09/2010 2:22:34 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: RedRedRose

Some sewage gets cleaned and recirculated as water to use...any one have a problem with taking a shower using grandma to lather up and wash up with...


36 posted on 07/09/2010 3:05:17 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: akorahil

Geeze, I wonder how someone that weights only about 150 pounds release over 500 pounds in carbon dioxide


37 posted on 07/09/2010 3:08:29 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: massmike

An example of the truly absurd limits that idiots are willing to take an absurd agenda - CO2.


38 posted on 07/09/2010 3:39:15 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: massmike

Wow this just gave some criminals ideas.


39 posted on 07/09/2010 3:51:35 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Three things you don't discuss in public; politics, religion, and choice of caliber.)
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To: akorahil

They felt the needed to come up with a really big number.


40 posted on 07/09/2010 5:02:38 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hitler Was Their Fate and their Fate Could Not Be Stayed. Von Braustitch.)
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To: Track9

Belgium is a low spot under the treads of my tanks. They really need to be occupied again. Uppity.


41 posted on 07/09/2010 5:05:05 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hitler Was Their Fate and their Fate Could Not Be Stayed. Von Braustitch.)
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To: alexander_busek

CO2 is NOT a pollutant.


42 posted on 07/09/2010 5:06:51 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hitler Was Their Fate and their Fate Could Not Be Stayed. Von Braustitch.)
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To: ichabod1

I like the Baron Bodissey quote! Speaks volumes and very insightful.


43 posted on 07/09/2010 5:10:48 PM PDT by Track9 (Liberals are cruel hateful people who think they pass as respectable citizens.)
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To: goat granny

Why not just use gramma to make soap, jello, and lampshades?


44 posted on 07/09/2010 5:12:23 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hitler Was Their Fate and their Fate Could Not Be Stayed. Von Braustitch.)
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To: Track9

What? I thought I just made that up!


45 posted on 07/09/2010 5:13:41 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hitler Was Their Fate and their Fate Could Not Be Stayed. Von Braustitch.)
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To: Track9

Only losers cry out for fair play.


46 posted on 07/09/2010 5:17:30 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hitler Was Their Fate and their Fate Could Not Be Stayed. Von Braustitch.)
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To: ichabod1

Well if you did, it’s very good. Tell you the truth, Baron Bodissey is new to me
so I went with what I saw.
Cheers


47 posted on 07/09/2010 5:21:55 PM PDT by Track9 (Liberals are cruel hateful people who think they pass as respectable citizens.)
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To: Track9

I was thinkng a little bit of Patton, a little bit of Stalin, a little bit of Napolean.


48 posted on 07/09/2010 5:23:33 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hitler Was Their Fate and their Fate Could Not Be Stayed. Von Braustitch.)
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To: ichabod1

Well there’s big differences between those three.

Patton = Backbone

Stalin = Brutality

Napoleon = 4’ 9”


49 posted on 07/09/2010 5:28:42 PM PDT by Track9 (Liberals are cruel hateful people who think they pass as respectable citizens.)
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To: ichabod1

the Nazi’s did two out of those 3....no jello....


50 posted on 07/09/2010 5:34:01 PM PDT by goat granny
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