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Obama Promises Saudi King that Israel will Withdraw from Jerusalem, West Bank
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Posted on 07/09/2010 6:19:17 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama was said to have pledged to Saudi Arabia that the United States would force Israel to withdraw from eastern Jerusalem and the entire West Bank by 2012.

Diplomatic sources said Obama relayed a pledge to Saudi King Abdullah that he would take any measure to ensure an Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank and Jerusalem over the next 18 months. They said Obama relayed the pledge to Abdullah during the president’s trip to Riyad in June 2009, about four months after he assumed office, in exchange for Abdullah’s help to arrange for the end of the Taliban war in Afghanistan.

“Obama believes the Saudis are the most important element in his strategy to withdraw from Afghanistan,” a diplomatic source familiar with the Obama-Abdullah talks, said. “Abdullah said he was ready to talk to Taliban, but asked for a clear and definitive promise to deliver Israel.”

On June 29, Abdullah met Obama in the White House, the third session over the last 18 months. Officials said the two leaders focused on Gulf security and the Middle East peace process.

“This is a very important visit [by Abdullah],” U.S. ambassador to Riyad, James Smith, said.

The sources said Abdullah has demanded U.S. guarantees that Israel would withdraw from the West Bank and most of Jerusalem by 2012. They said the Saudi king also expressed opposition to U.S. arms sales to Israel and Washington’s boycott of the Hamas regime in the Gaza Strip.

Obama’s approach to the Saudis was formulated soon after he entered the White House in late January 2009. In May 2009, Obama sent an envoy, Richard Holbrooke, to Riyad to urge the kingdom to support efforts to facilitate a NATO withdrawal from Afghanistan.

The sources said Abdullah asserted that he wielded significant influence over the Saudi-financed Taliban, the main rebel force in Afghanistan. But the king told Holbrooke, Obama’s envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan, that he first wanted Washington to adopt and implement the Saudi plan for an Arab-Israeli settlement.

“Holbrooke agreed with everything Abdullah asked,” a source who monitored the meeting recalled. “He [Holbrook] kept saying ‘No problem,’ even to the most outrageous demands. At that point, the king said, ‘I want to hear this from your boss.’”

About two weeks later, on June 3, Obama arrived in Riyad and was greeted lavishly by Abdullah, who also presented him with a thick gold chain that represented the kingdom’s highest honor. The sources said the president, reaffirming what Holbrooke said, pledged to adopt the Saudi plan for an Arab-Israeli settlement, which called for full Israeli withdrawal to the 1967 borders, a Palestinian state and the return of Palestinian refugees to their homes in what was now Israel.

On the following day, Obama flew to Egypt where he announced that the United States would open a “new chapter” with the Muslim world. The president’s speech in Cairo focused on U.S. plans to establish a Palestinian state in the West Bank.

Holbrooke, who helped broker the end of the war in Bosnia in 1995, has long advocated that Washington must be prepared to force Israel into a settlement with the Palestinians in any effort to win Arab support for U.S. policy in the Middle East.

Holbrooke, who also reports to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, was said to have joined senior U.S. military commanders in asserting that Washington’s support for Israel was the key reason for the Arab refusal to cooperate in either Afghanistan or Iraq.

Since the Obama pledge, the sources said, the White House has rejected virtually every Israeli request for U.S. weapons platforms. They said Obama also delayed decisions by the former administration of President George Bush to deliver attack helicopters, air transports, bunker-buster air bombs and Hellfire air-to-ground missiles to the Jewish state.

During his latest meeting, Obama had been expected to urge the 86-year-old Saudi king to reconcile rival Fatah and Hamas movements to facilitate an Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank and eastern Jerusalem. On July 6, Obama was scheduled to meet Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House.

“The king wants to have from Obama the assurance that he is going to solve the [Arab-Israeli] issue,” Khaled Al Maeena, editor of the Saudi-owned Arab News, said.

The sources said the White House has assessed that Saudi cooperation was vital amid the Taliban offensive in Afghanistan and the dismissal of U.S. commander Gen. Stanley McChrystal. On June 23, McChrystal resigned in wake of a magazine article in which he and other officers criticized Obama’s policy in Afghanistan and the president’s lack of military experience.

“The president has sent constant appeals to Abdullah to obtain a Taliban agreement for a ceasefire that could result in the start of an American and NATO withdrawal,” the source said. “But Abdullah first wants Obama to deliver on his promise concerning Israel. He [Abdullah] wants results before the congressional elections [in November 2010].”

The sources said Abdullah’s impatience with Obama has been exacerbated by Saudi concern over Iran’s nuclear weapons program. They said Riyad has been alarmed by Washington’s failure to stop Teheran’s ballistic missile and nuclear projects and instead pursue diplomacy with Iran.

“We see the issue in the shorter term because we are closer to the threat,” Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saudi Al Faisal said. “We need an immediate resolution.”

In late 2009, the Saudi leadership sent a message to the White House that called for U.S. assistance to fight Yemeni Shi’ite rebels. The sources said the Saudis asserted that the rebels were being financed and equipped by Iran.

“The Saudis are terrified of Iran, but they can’t bring themselves to admitting that they need help,” the source said. “What they would rather do is publicly show how they are using Washington to do what Iran could never achieve — a full Israeli withdrawal to the 1967 borders without an Arab peace agreement.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel
KEYWORDS: americainperil; dnc4islam; dncvsisrael; dncvsjerusalem; dncvsjews; obama; obama4himself; obama4islam; obamavsisrael; obamavsjerusalem; obamavsjews; obuttocks
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1 posted on 07/09/2010 6:19:19 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Ain’t gonna happen. This is well above Obunghole’s pay grade.


2 posted on 07/09/2010 6:21:45 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

If true, The Usurper has just made US the enemy of God, not a smart move, and most tragic for US inhabitants, including me.


3 posted on 07/09/2010 6:21:49 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: Iam1ru1-2

i wonder where Israel is getting its weps now? betcha they aint waiting around for the Prez to come to their assistance.


4 posted on 07/09/2010 6:22:01 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Why doesn’t Obama just cut to the chase and ask Israel to withdraw to the sea?


5 posted on 07/09/2010 6:23:18 PM PDT by AU72
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Unnamed sources, very hard to verify.


6 posted on 07/09/2010 6:23:34 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

“the Saudi-financed Taliban”

That ought to set all the alarm bells a’ringing, don’t you think?


7 posted on 07/09/2010 6:24:24 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Not gonna happen O-Bum-da-loser!


8 posted on 07/09/2010 6:25:51 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
"President Barack Obama was said to have pledged to Saudi Arabia that the United States would force Israel to withdraw from eastern Jerusalem and the entire West Bank by 2012."

Two questions: (1) since when has the U.S. sworn fealty to a foreign prince? (2) since when has a U.S. President - even one as "magical" as Obuttocks - the authority to order a co-equal sovereign state around as if it were a servantboy?

Israel really, really has got to stand firm - appeasement didn't work with the original fascists, and it won't work with the liberal neo-fascists, either. Israel's watchword in these perilous times must always be "never again."


9 posted on 07/09/2010 6:26:13 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Doubt it.


10 posted on 07/09/2010 6:27:44 PM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Absolutely Unreal!

This guy (Obumba) is totally out of his tree.


11 posted on 07/09/2010 6:28:08 PM PDT by B-Cause (Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
LOL!

Does Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu know this?

12 posted on 07/09/2010 6:28:36 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Nachum

Right.


13 posted on 07/09/2010 6:28:46 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: Nachum

“Unnamed sources, very hard to verify.”

I’d like to see proof of this, odd there is no source mentioned. Propaganda?


14 posted on 07/09/2010 6:28:53 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Oceander

This is a bit like Canada assuring the Mexican President that the United States is going to give back Arizona next year.

Who in the living hell does this Muslim Golfer think he is?


15 posted on 07/09/2010 6:31:34 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: beethovenfan

“”Ain’t gonna happen. This is well above Obunghole’s pay grade.””

The man really does believe he can achieve what has eluded every president for the last 62 years. What a miracle worker he is. A legend in his own mind is more like it. Can’t we swap him out for something/someone else? He loves those muslim countries and they love him so why don’t we just send him on his way and make all of us happy?


16 posted on 07/09/2010 6:35:43 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Iam1ru1-2
Bambi and Bibi


17 posted on 07/09/2010 6:35:58 PM PDT by jessduntno (A-Stan: "illiterate peasants in caves, ruled by "warlords" ... not a target for "nation building.")
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To: Beowulf9

I think it could be true, but I’d like proof.


18 posted on 07/09/2010 6:36:11 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Sounds like Obama is writing another check his butt can’t cash.


19 posted on 07/09/2010 6:36:17 PM PDT by doc1019 (Martyrdom is a great thing, until it is your turn.)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

The snarl I just let out sure left my husband’s heart pumping... sorry honey.


20 posted on 07/09/2010 6:39:55 PM PDT by Marie (Obama seems to think that Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since Camp David, not King David)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
And next week... Obama promises Mexican Government that Arizonians will withdraw from Aztlan!
21 posted on 07/09/2010 6:40:01 PM PDT by Shqipo (I stand with AZ!)
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To: nmh

Jerusalem belongs to the Jews, lock stock and barrel. Washington will fall before Jerusalem goes Arab. The pressure Hussein is putting on Israel will come back to be his undoing. You don’t mess with God’s chosen people! God gave that land to Israel and it will NEVER be taken from them. Hussein may think he’s god, but he will find out very quickly he has feet of clay. I look forward to his encounter with the true and living God who will NOT be mocked nor challenged.


22 posted on 07/09/2010 6:45:54 PM PDT by rtbwood
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To: Iam1ru1-2

NO clue how reliable a news source the link is but the way Zero has acted it is 100% believable.


23 posted on 07/09/2010 6:46:11 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all people roundabout. And in that day I will make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: All that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces..
Zechariah 12,2-3


24 posted on 07/09/2010 6:46:18 PM PDT by hwkbeer (I will pursue my enemy and not stop till I consume him.)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

I don’t for one moment think that Israel will go along with this - to do so would make it militarily indefensible. However, Obama and the other Israel-haters in his regime will use this “intransigence” to paint Israel as the “bad guy” in the so-called “Peace Process”. Then, they can cut all support to Israel, feeding it to the wolves. Of course, after the “Little Satan” is dealt with, who’s next? The “Big Satan” perhaps?

Why American Jews support this clown totally baffles me.


25 posted on 07/09/2010 6:46:51 PM PDT by imperator1
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To: Iam1ru1-2
Uh-huh...this from a guy who says the economy is on the rebound, says the Arizona law is divisive, the borders are more secure than ever, thinks we all want his healthcare, thinks Israeli's don't like him because of his middle name, thinks he's actually funny.

He makes me sick.

Never has there been such a punk on a power trip!

26 posted on 07/09/2010 6:47:28 PM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Matthew 26:14-16

14 Then one of the twelve, named Judas Iscariot, went to the chief priests 15 and said, “What are you willing to give me to betray Him to you?” And they weighed out thirty pieces of silver to him. 16 From then on he began looking for a good opportunity to betray Jesus.


27 posted on 07/09/2010 6:49:13 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Iam1ru1-2
If the Arabs are so damn scared of the Persians then it seems to this simple guy THAT is our bargaining chip...not the Jews being driven out of the West Bank and Jerusalem...of course that assumes Obozo wants what is best for the US and her allies...which is demonstrably not the case
28 posted on 07/09/2010 6:49:52 PM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Obama would sell his soul, and probably has, to make sure America is not victorious in Afghanistan. He just wants the war to go away, even if it means destroying our only true friend in the Middle East.

Besides, I would bet the Tollybon gets more funding/support from Iran and Pakistan than Saudi Arabia.

He is a very weak President and our enemies know this. See North Korea and our passive response to an act of war.


29 posted on 07/09/2010 6:51:09 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: Iam1ru1-2
While I do not know the link, this is in my opinion at least ‘possible’.

However, it is important to note that this is the same guy who closed Gitmo a year ago, brought our troops home from all over the world, and caused unemployment to stay under eight percent.

This is a guy who consistently fires off ‘promises’ that he has no capability or, in some cases, no intention of keeping. His words, promises, or vows, are worthless, even to the Left. Everything he does is nonsense.

So, if I were Saudi, I would just yawn and say, ‘yea sure you will’, just like you kept all your other promises.

30 posted on 07/09/2010 7:01:20 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

obama will withdraw from Washington before Israel withdraws from Jerusalem....count on it.


31 posted on 07/09/2010 7:06:21 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: Iam1ru1-2
in exchange for Abdullah’s help to arrange for the end of the Taliban war in Afghanistan

LOL! How's that one working out for you, Oh Usurper in Chief? I take these Saudi leaks with a large grain of salt, but it doesn't change what dog crap this president is.

32 posted on 07/09/2010 7:07:38 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: J Edgar

obama will be eating grass very soon, after reading the handwriting on the wall—the smarta$$ bastard in chief.


33 posted on 07/09/2010 7:11:14 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: imperator1

I don’t think that they do—polls sugest that they have gone from 67% for to 35% for...and falling. They are not dumb.


34 posted on 07/09/2010 7:15:36 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Zer0 is two-faced, so he probably told Israel that he wouldn’t press for withdrawal...


35 posted on 07/09/2010 7:16:30 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Venturer
"This is a bit like Canada assuring the Mexican President that the United States is going to give back Arizona next year.

Who in the living hell does this Muslim Golfer think he is?"


Precisely
36 posted on 07/09/2010 7:17:12 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

It must have been the blood rushing to O’Bozo’s head as he was bowing to lick King Abdullah’s toe jam.

To attempt this would be Nuclear grade stupidity because it would be the start (and end) of WWIII.


37 posted on 07/09/2010 7:18:55 PM PDT by Iron Munro (I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take any more beatings)
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To: Venturer
This is a bit like Canada assuring the Mexican President that the United States is going to give back Arizona next year.

You mean Señor Wences?

38 posted on 07/09/2010 7:22:37 PM PDT by brewcrew
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To: richardtavor
the smarta$$ bastard in chief.

Wow, did you see that speech in Vegas?

Smarmy, condescending, unprofessional, it was like watching some college kid giving a speech about how bad the dean and the faculty are.

I was disgusted and insulted by it. And, Gibbs is the same way. This guy is incredibly immature and not serious about what he is doing.

He just broadcasts, I don't care about the dignity of the job. I don't care about this county. I don't even care about my own bills.

Hey, if all this works, ‘Great’. If it doesn't, ‘Oh well’.

Sorry for the rant. But when you said, ‘smarta$$ bastard’, it really trip me off as that is exactly how I feel.

39 posted on 07/09/2010 7:24:57 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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40 posted on 07/09/2010 7:27:31 PM PDT by Iron Munro (You can't kill the beast while sucking at its teat - Claire Wolfe)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
I am willing to bet that Bibi has a few thoughts about that. Ain't going to happen Bozo.
41 posted on 07/09/2010 8:09:43 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: Thank You Rush

While he’s loving the muzzies so much and leaves the whitehouse, do we still have to pay his pension?


42 posted on 07/09/2010 8:16:25 PM PDT by tillacum (It's the military, not the press, not the politicians, who keep this country free.)
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To: jessduntno

I don’t think that Bibi was fooled by Obama’s play at nicey-nice this week, whatsoever.


43 posted on 07/09/2010 8:41:43 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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To: Iam1ru1-2

And mac daddy believes that he will be believed.

MOVING LIPS = WORTHLESS LIES


44 posted on 07/09/2010 9:03:23 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Iam1ru1-2

God has other plans.


45 posted on 07/09/2010 9:12:34 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: jessduntno
A picture of a leader and a phony.

Guess which one is which.

46 posted on 07/09/2010 9:13:57 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Obama would trade the Holiest place on earth for a pile of rocks? Actually, according to this story he would trade Jerusalem in order to give up a pile of rocks!

Makes no sense. While I don’t trust Obama’s foreign policy, this just doesn’t add up. We could quit Afganistan any time we wanted. Obama would have lots of political cover on the left if he withdrew. We don’t need the Saudis to deal with the Taliban on our behalf, and anyway the Saudis are good for nothing except blood money. Makes no sense.


47 posted on 07/10/2010 1:05:02 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Iam1ru1-2

The assertations contained in the source article are nothing more than ‘clap-trap’.


48 posted on 07/10/2010 1:24:21 AM PDT by raygun
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To: Iam1ru1-2
"Obama relayed a pledge to Saudi King Abdullah that he would take any measure to ensure an Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank and Jerusalem over the next 18 months. They said Obama relayed the pledge to Abdullah during the president’s trip to Riyad in June 2009, about four months after he assumed office, in exchange for Abdullah’s help to arrange for the end of the Taliban war in Afghanistan."

They're not his to give away. What an arrogant bastard.

49 posted on 07/10/2010 1:36:15 AM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: Venturer; null and void
Who in the living hell does this Muslim Golfer think he is?

The profane wicked prince of Israel (Ezekiel 21.25)

ואתה חלל רשע נשיא ישראל אשר־בא

50 posted on 07/10/2010 5:32:52 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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