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Posted on 07/10/2010 2:35:04 AM PDT by Scanian
In the 16th century, astrono mer Taqi al-Din built one of the world's great observato ries in Istanbul. It rivaled that of pioneering Danish astronomer Tycho Brahe -- while it lasted.
"Taqi al-Din's observatory was razed to the ground by a squad of Janissaries, by order of the sultan, on the recommendation of the Chief Mufti," Bernard Lewis writes in his book "What Went Wrong?" "This observatory had many predecessors in the lands of Islam; it had no successors until the age of modernization."
NASA Administrator Charles Bolden caused a furor when he revealed that President Obama had directed him "to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science . . . and math and engineering."
This shouldn't be hard to do, so long as Bolden is well-versed in accomplishments rising out of the Middle East many centuries ago. It gave us what we know as Arabic numerals, although they originated in India.
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So, should we give them moon rocks with which to perform their stonings?
The Arabs had nothing to do with the invention of the modern decimal place-value system and the concept of zero that replaced the cumbersome Roman numeral system, and changed mathematics as we know it today. All they did was copy them from the Indians, and convey to the rest of the world, claiming as their own inventions.
Tell us more.
Muslims seem to have an odd conception of the Big Bang theory.
Many of their other “inventions” and “discoveries” were basically extrapolations of prior work of the Greek, Hindus and Persians, and others, from manuscripts that ended up in their hands after Europe purged their versions during the Dark Ages.
Many of their other inventions and discoveries were basically extrapolations of prior work of the Greek, Hindus and Persians, and others, from manuscripts that ended up in their hands after Europe purged their versions during the Dark Ages.
Gee, to hear Obama tell it, the Muslims have invented about nearly everything in the world that you can think of, right?
Remember his speech in Cairo? Remember the long list of Muslim inventions? Nearly every one of those seemed spurious and laughable to me because in my reading of history I don’t recall any Muslim inventions at all. I have heard over and over that they invented algebra, but I think that was taken from the Greeks — am I correct?
And now, we need to help the Muslims with their rocket technology — that is to say, we need to help them learn how to shoot rockets that land on top of our heads instead of just using jumbo jets next time — is my interpretation correct?
Very much so!
how can anyone, With half a brain doubt that Obama is a Muslim?
His father was a Muslim.
His stepfather was a Muslim.
His religion in Indonesia is clearly listed as Muslim.
Dr. John Drew, who knew him well at Occidental College, said he knew him as “a gay passionate Marxist” and a Muslim who roomed three times with Pakistani Muslim male roommates — never a hint of her girlfriend, a date, a prom, or anything else.
Remember when it was reported in the New York Times that Barack Hussein Obama could recite the Arabic call to prayer in a perfect Arabic accent with a big smile on his face???
Well, that article has been scrubbed.
I wonder why?
Know any other politicians who can recite the Arabic call to prayer? I don’t.
Ever see any interviews of his roommates? Ever notice that the first one is now 47 years old, lives in Seattle, teaches “theater arts”, and is still single? Want to bet that this man is a homosexual too? But you will never never never see any MSM in investigation of this roommate or any of the others
Just like you will never see any MSM. reporting that NASA’s new “main concern” is to help Muslim countries with their science and technology which is currently nonexistent — somehow, incredibly, insanely, it is now our job to help Muslim countries feel better.
Weirder and weirder, curiouser and curiouser, stranger and stranger.
All you have to do is take a look at the following quote to know that the Obama administration and the entire United States has now gone insane:
“to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science . . . and math and engineering.”
This is from the linked article:
This shouldn’t be hard to do, so long as Bolden is well-versed in accomplishments rising out of the Middle East many centuries ago. It gave us what we know as Arabic numerals, although they originated in India. It gave us algebra and the rudiments of trigonometry.
It gave us medical pioneers in the 10th and 11th centuries. (A significant proportion of these scientists and physicians were Christians and Jews, Lewis notes — a fact Charles “Bling” Bolden had best keep to himself.)
It’s wonderful to feel good about the work of Ibn Sina of Bukhara, who compiled an indispensable medical encyclopedia before his death in 1037, but it raises the question of what Muslim science has done for us over the last millennium or so.
The Muslim world would be better served by a frank discussion of how so much of it came to be sunk in backwardness and ignorance, although NASA’s administrator is not the natural person to lead it (nor, if he’s as smart as advertised, will he volunteer for the task).
Historian David Landes puts it starkly: “The vast bulk of modern science was of Europe’s making, especially that breakthrough of the 17th and 18th centuries that goes by the name ‘scientific revolution.’ Not only did non-Western science contribute just about nothing (though there was more there than Europeans knew), but at that point it was incapable of participating, so far had it fallen behind or taken the wrong turning.”
The short version of the story is that in the battle between science and religious obscurantism in the Islamic world, obscurantism won in a rout. Landes recounts that when the Muslims conquered Persia in the seventh century, the commander on the ground was forbidden to distribute the vast collection of captured books and scientific papers. Word came down from on high: “Throw them in the water. If what they contain is right guidance, God has given us better guidance. If it is error, God has protected us against it.”
Is an interview with this Dr. John Drew online somewhere? That was a good article. I am also convinced he is gay. What I don’t understand is why no one steps forward with information. Or maybe I do understand — pure survival instinct?
He also claimed that the Arabic, Islamic call to prayer is the ‘most beautiful sound’ one could ever hear, or so I’ve read from threads here and beyond.
Obama Espoused Radical Views in College [advocated revolution]
Dr. John Drew PhD : --- who knew him very well as a gay passionate Marxist.
Dr. John C. Drew, a grant writing consultant in Laguna Niguel, Calif., tells Newsmax he met Obama in 1980 when Obama was a sophomore at Occidental College in Los Angeles. Drew had just graduated from Occidental and was attending graduate school at Cornell University.
During Christmas break, Drew says he was at Grauman-Boss home in Palo Alto when Obama came over with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo, his roommate from Pakistan.
Barack [Obama] and Hasan showed up at the house in a BMW, and then we went to a restaurant together, Drew says. We had a nice meal, and then we came back to the house and smoked cigarettes and drank and argued politics.
For the next several hours, they discussed Marxism.
He [Obama] was arguing a straightforward Marxist-Leninist class-struggle point of view, which anticipated that there would be a revolution of the working class, led by revolutionaries, who would overthrow the capitalist system and institute a new socialist government that would redistribute the wealth, says Drew, who says he himself was then a Marxist.
The idea was basically that wealthy people were exploiting others, Drew says. That this was the secret of their wealth, that they werent paying others enough for their work, and they were using and taking advantage of other people. He was convinced that a revolution would take place, and it would be a good thing.
Drew concluded that Obama thought of himself as part of an intelligent, radical vanguard that was leading the way towards this revolution and towards this new society. ..."
Referring to Obamas quote from Dreams of My Father that he associated with Marxist professors, Drew says, What hes not saying is that he was in 100 percent total agreement with those Marxist professors.
When you understand that, Obamas later associations and policies make more sense, including why he was taken in by Rev. Wrights ideology.
Yes. And not only that, but he could recite it perfectly, in Arabic, with the perfect Arabic accent.
I guess everyone just feels that he likes to speak in Arabic, with no deeper meaning — or could it be that he was born a Muslim raised Muslim and will die a Muslim?
No one wonders why hasn’t been to church for 18 months?
No one wonders why he wants us to help Muslim countries only, using NASA, to feel better about themselves?
No one wonders why he had to cover up all the Christian symbols at Georgetown University when he gave a speech there? Who in the world would even think of such a thing? How would this even occur to any politician unless that politician was a Muslim and didn’t want to be photographed with any Christian symbols showing in the background?
Didn’t the Egyptian Minister of Defense recently announced that Obama had confessed to him in their private meetings that he was a Muslim?
The list just goes on and on — but I think I’ve listed enough for the moment.
I was a little Jakarta street kid, he said in a wide-ranging interview in his office (excerpts are on my blog, www.nytimes.com/ontheground). He once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes in his elementary school, but a president is less likely to stereotype Muslims as fanatics and more likely to be aware of their nationalism if he once studied the Koran with them.
Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (itll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.
Moreover, Mr. Obamas own grandfather in Kenya was a Muslim. Mr. Obama never met his grandfather and says he isnt sure if his grandfathers two wives were simultaneous or consecutive, or even if he was Sunni or Shiite. (O.K., maybe Mr. Obama should just give up on Alabama.)
The only “scientific accomplishment” that the cult of hate (i.e., Mohammedism) is to invent new and inhumane ways to kill and maim people who they don’t like.
Where are the PUBs in Congress screaming about NASA’s new mission:”To engage in nonsense, to blindly go where 0bambi sends us.”? Cut all funding until NASA returns to its original mission. Where?
Probably just gave it a catchy name. Just like Al Cohol.
“The only scientific accomplishment that the cult of hate (i.e., Mohammedism) is to invent new and inhumane ways to kill and maim people who they dont like.”
The cell phone triggered bomb... but even that is in doubt...
The real mathematicians probably were exterminated
by Islam at the Hindu kush (slaughter).