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Feds say protecting endangered toad could cost $789 million over 25 years
press enterprise ^ | July 8, 2010 | JANET ZIMMERMAN

Posted on 07/10/2010 5:45:55 AM PDT by goron

Habitat protection for the endangered arroyo toad, which lives along slow-moving pools and sandy streams in Southern California, would cost $789 million over 25 years, according to a new analysis by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

Most of the costs are expected to occur in new development, primarily in San Diego County, the study shows. The analysis also considered losses from grazing, mining, road construction and utility projects, and possible prices increases for water customers.

The financial study was required as part of the agency's proposed designation of 112,765 acres as critical habitat for the small, buff-colored toad with dark-spotted, warty skin.

(Excerpt) Read more at pe.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: arroyotoad; endangeredspecies; endangeredspeciesact; froghuggers; toad

1 posted on 07/10/2010 5:46:00 AM PDT by goron
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To: goron

“Most of the costs are expected to occur in new development, primarily in San Diego County, the study shows. The analysis also considered losses from grazing, mining, road construction and utility projects, and possible prices increases for water customers”
First off,just to mention a silly thing,why new development when people aren’t buying houses as it is?


2 posted on 07/10/2010 5:51:28 AM PDT by wiggen (Government owned slave.)
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To: wiggen

Maybe some things just aren’t worth saving?


3 posted on 07/10/2010 5:52:58 AM PDT by upchuck (This November, we MUST win by more votes than they can cheat by. h/t to originalbuckeye)
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To: goron

Toads are cool. Not that cool.


4 posted on 07/10/2010 5:53:40 AM PDT by allmost
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To: goron

Patriotic Americans should go out there and kill the toads.


5 posted on 07/10/2010 5:54:53 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: goron

"send the little slimers to da big lillie pod in da sky"

6 posted on 07/10/2010 5:55:01 AM PDT by Doogle (IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN....PLEASE donate, because it's the RIGHT thing to do)
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To: goron

Remember, extinct is forever. That would include the 99% of species that extincted before man ever set his dirty, little feet upon the planet.


7 posted on 07/10/2010 6:03:50 AM PDT by j.argese (Liberal thought process = oxymoron)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Amen to that. Post a bounty of $100 a toad, and you’re still going to make a huge profit.


8 posted on 07/10/2010 6:07:15 AM PDT by agere_contra (Obama did more damage to the Gulf economy in one day than Pemex/Ixtoc did in nine months)
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To: goron

The protection of minor subspecies that may not in fact be unique has no merit. The reason it is failing is because it is not able to adapt to present the present change.

Change is caused by progressives who actually abhor progress and insist in reverting to a past long gone.

the toad must be allowed to disappear. There is no point al all in the effort to preserve a trivial population


9 posted on 07/10/2010 6:08:09 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... The winds of war are freshening)
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To: ClearCase_guy

>> Patriotic Americans should go out there and kill the toads.

That’s only attacking the *symptom*.

Hanging enviromentalists — now THAT would be attacking the PROBLEM!


10 posted on 07/10/2010 6:16:09 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: Nervous Tick

LIBs are truly insane!


11 posted on 07/10/2010 6:25:10 AM PDT by hal ogen ($10 (I think) amounts through the internet from all over the world.)
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To: goron

That money could be used to make mosquitoes extinct.


12 posted on 07/10/2010 6:27:31 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goron

Some animals just need extincting.


13 posted on 07/10/2010 6:33:43 AM PDT by houeto (Get drinking water from your ditch - http://www.junglebucket.com/Jungle-Bucket-1.htm)
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To: goron

Are these the same scientists who run the Global Scamming fraud? Why should we believe them on this? Who says this frog couldn’t adapt like every other frog?

Pray for America


14 posted on 07/10/2010 6:41:20 AM PDT by bray (Did Rush say Massive Failure?)
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To: goron

“Center biologist Ileene Anderson said Thursday she is unhappy that the designation includes only areas where the toad already lives. “

I firmly suggest Ms. Anderson stick one (or more) up her a$$ and introduce them to a completely new “area”


15 posted on 07/10/2010 6:45:10 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: goron

I didn’t feel like reading the rest of the article, but...for just 2 or 3 million couldn’t they just built a big terrarium for the arroyo toads to survive in?


16 posted on 07/10/2010 6:45:29 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("True evil has a face you know and a voice you trust." ~Greg Iles. "True Evil")
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To: j.argese

And 99% of those were extinct before our dirty feet hit the planet.


17 posted on 07/10/2010 6:49:53 AM PDT by dockkiller (COME AND TAKE IT.)
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To: wiggen

New development for toads, not humans.


18 posted on 07/10/2010 6:52:45 AM PDT by dockkiller (COME AND TAKE IT.)
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To: goron
Feds say protecting endangered toad could cost $789 million over 25 years

If this continues, in 25 years the toads will still be here but the Fed won't...

19 posted on 07/10/2010 6:59:32 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Anaxyrus californicus - Justification:
Listed as Endangered because of a serious population decline, estimated to be more than 50% over the last ten years, inferred from observed reduction in the extent and quality of its habitat, in the number of locations and number of mature individuals, and in the area of occupancy.
http://www.iucnredlist.org/apps/redlist/details/54599/0


20 posted on 07/10/2010 7:04:05 AM PDT by anglian
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To: goron

How many of these toads are being killed and their habitat being destroyed by the thousands of illegals who are trampling through this area?


21 posted on 07/10/2010 7:27:49 AM PDT by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: goron

http://sciencedude.ocregister.com/files/2010/07/ArroyoToadHabitat.jpg


22 posted on 07/10/2010 7:35:43 AM PDT by anglian
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To: dockkiller

Correct. Did my original post lack clarity?


23 posted on 07/10/2010 7:59:24 AM PDT by j.argese (Liberal thought process = oxymoron)
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To: goron

Multiply this nonsense by the number of species that go onto the endangered list or disappear through natural causes and evolution and the cost to the economy is enormus.

Ah, but the alternative to letting Nature take its course with this ffin’ toad is DOOM.


24 posted on 07/10/2010 8:12:03 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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http://www.fws.gov/ventura/newsroom/misc/FinalDraft_EconomicAnalysis_Arroyotoad_2010.pdf


25 posted on 07/10/2010 8:16:43 AM PDT by anglian
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To: bert

If we didn’t have Congress full of treasonous RINOs, they could have fixed the endangered species act so that it only protected full species, consistent with the original “Noah’s Ark” intent. Of course, that would not stop the biologists from pulling their little games. In 1998 Bufo microscaphus was split into two species, Bufo californicus, and B. microscaphus. Presto, an endangered species!

IMHO, the only principled way to define species is whether the two members can produce fertile offspring; the rest is political science. A really competent Congress would put that species definition in the statute, so no group could be listed unless it were a true species.


26 posted on 07/10/2010 8:40:28 AM PDT by Buchal ("Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .")
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To: j.argese

I misunderstood.


27 posted on 07/10/2010 7:29:40 PM PDT by dockkiller (COME AND TAKE IT.)
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