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Resorting to name-calling? At least get it right (LIBERAL BEMOANS USE OF THE 'C-WORD')
SouthtownStar - Chicago ^ | July 11, 2010 | Kathleen Rooney

Posted on 07/11/2010 8:33:17 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

Last Saturday afternoon, my sister and her husband were out in Lemont to attend their niece's fourth birthday party. Burgers and brats were sizzling on the grill, presents were piled on the living room coffee table, and the U.S.-Ghana World Cup game was playing on the flatscreen.

When one of the other guests discovered that my sister and her husband were not rooting for the Americans, but rather were quietly pulling for the underdog Ghana, he became belligerent, calling them a number of names that are unprintable in a family newspaper but also asserting that they were "a couple of filthy communists," "total commies," "godless commies," etc., etc., pursuing them through the party - ignoring their reluctance to engage him and their insistence that it was just a soccer match and thus no big deal who anybody rooted for - until they had no choice but to leave.

Such uncivil and combative behavior is boorish and horrible regardless of the epithets the man happened to be using. But his repeated variation on the theme of "communist" is just one more example of an increasingly obnoxious trend that has been plaguing the so-called "discourse" of the American right.

This trend, of course, is the rampant misuse and frequent misapplication of the terms "communism" and "communist" that keep getting tossed around angrily by name-calling conservatives in relation to any idea that is not marching in absolute lockstep with their own ideology.

"Communism" and "communist" are real and useful terms with precise meanings and histories. But they are almost never properly employed anymore. Instead, what conservatives generally mean when they name-call someone a "communist" is: "I disagree with you, and I resent and oppose your democratic right to hold and express an opinion that is different from mine, antithetical as that is to the entire concept and spirit of democracy."

So, today's column is about words, definitions and really saying what you honestly mean. And, conservatives, I'm not necessarily saying that you shouldn't call anyone a "communist." I'm just here to help you make sure that if you do, you're doing it correctly, and that if what you really mean is, "Anybody with perspectives or values that differ from my own needs to shut up and go away," then you can just say that instead!

For starters, to return to the unfortunate incident in Lemont, is being a fan of a different sports team than someone else really the same as communism? Which is to say, is it identical - per the actual definition of "communism" - to: embracing a social structure in which classes are eradicated and property is commonly controlled? No. It might make you mad or confused to view a sporting event at which not every single spectator feels like chanting "USA!" and "We're No. 1!", but it is not, technically, "communist."

As you have likely noticed, though, the gross misapplication of the terms "communism" and "communist" is not limited to children's birthday parties in the south suburbs. These errors are everywhere in the so-called American political "conversation."

On June 24, for instance, Glenn Beck, who already has established himself as a misuser extraordinaire of the whole notion of communism, dedicated that evening's entire program to attempting to rehabilitate the reputation of red-baiting Sen. Joseph McCarthy and to defining virtually each and every progressive idea or cause as equivalent to "communism."

Because it is sad to see proud Americans such as Glenn Beck and the gentleman at the party want, so badly, to express themselves with great clarity and insight, yet be unable to do so accurately, I propose the following simple, three-question checklist of queries you can use whenever you feel your lips twitch to form the C-word.

Just ask yourself: Is the thing or idea that I am attempting to berate or dismiss out of hand with a single word (as opposed to thoughtful debate):

1. A political theory of total collectivism in an utterly classless and stateless society? If no, don't say "communist"; just say, "Shut up." If yes, go right ahead.

2. An economic system based on the principle "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need"? If no, don't say "communist"; just say, "I am incapable of listening to, let alone respecting or considering, an opinion that is not the same as mine." If yes, go right ahead.

3. A form of socialism that abolishes private ownership? If no, don't say "communist"; just say, "My ignorance makes me defensive and hostile toward people who make different decisions than I do." If yes, go right ahead.

See? Easy. Clip this column. Stick it to your fridge with an American flag magnet. Put it in your wallet next to your National Rifle Association membership card. Whatever. It's a free country.

And free means free to have your own opinion. So don't wear out the words "commie" or "communist," which certainly have their uses but possibly not the ones you think.

While I am making lists, here are a handful of beliefs with which you may disagree, but which, if you do agree with them, do not automatically render you a "communist" - "godless," "filthy," or otherwise:

• A new path to citizenship for immigrants to this country.

• Environmental protections.

• Equal rights for gay, lesbian and transgendered people.

• Equal rights for women.

• The idea that massive, faceless, multibillion-dollar corporations are not, in fact, "human" and should not be treated as such under the law.

• The idea that the government can provide useful services and programs besides just the imperialist spread of war, aka "defense."

• Public transportation and/or bicycles.

• Paying your taxes.

• The separation of church and state.

• Vegetarianism/veganism.

• Universal health care.

I could continue with this list, but these are just the tip of the complicated iceberg of views I have recently expressed, which have subsequently gotten me declared, incorrectly, an adherent of "communism" in various private and public settings. There is a lot to discuss about each of these issues, but there is not a lot to indicate that any of them are especially "red"/"pinko"/"dirty commie."

Would it be preferable to engage in a discourse that really was a discourse? In which nuance and debate were genuinely welcome, and differing opinions and suggestions were not rejected summarily with a single, curt word? Sure it would.

But in the meantime, if you are going to call somebody a reductive and belittling name bec ause they think thoughts that are not identical to yours, then please, have some pride, and at least call the right ones.

KATHLEEN ROONEY IS A FORMER U.S. SENATE AIDE AND WRITER LIVING IN CHICAGO. HER LATEST BOOK OF ESSAYS IS "FOR YOU, FOR YOU I AM TRILLING THESE SONGS."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: commies; liberals; rats; worldcup
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It certainly appears that Ms. Rooney fabricated a story on which to base her column. And then, in her last few paragraphs, she slips into the name-calling behavior which she is decrying in others. Obviously, Kathleen Rooney should do less column writing and wayyyyyyyyyyy more nude modeling.
1 posted on 07/11/2010 8:33:19 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

Unless her family members WANTED a confrontation they could have kept their choice to themselves.


2 posted on 07/11/2010 8:36:10 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: Chi-townChief
Gee, she was so silent on this for so long.

Just skip the name-calling and bring out the knives. 0.x / s

3 posted on 07/11/2010 8:37:08 AM PDT by Clint Williams ( America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: Chi-townChief
While I am making lists, here are a handful of beliefs with which you may disagree, but which, if you do agree with them, do not automatically render you a "communist" - "godless," "filthy," or otherwise:

Of course, the fact that a number of those listed beliefs are part of the Communist platform is just a coincidence...

4 posted on 07/11/2010 8:41:22 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Chi-townChief

Just the fact that they were watching soccer makes them a bunch of commies...ok, I have my flame-proof suit on.


5 posted on 07/11/2010 8:43:01 AM PDT by JRios1968 (The real first rule of Fight Club: don't invite Chuck Norris...EVER)
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To: who knows what evil?

a liberal whining about name calling?

hahahahahaha


6 posted on 07/11/2010 8:43:02 AM PDT by gthog61
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To: Chi-townChief

Funny how libtards and progressive seek the use of exact definitions of words, and yet, change definitions to suit their collective purposes whenever deemed necessary to do so. Wonder if she accepts the Constitution exactly as it is written just as she wants us to accept the literal definition of communism or communist......=.=


7 posted on 07/11/2010 8:43:04 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Chi-townChief

Such uncivil and combative behavior is boorish and horrible regardless of the epithets the man happened to be using. But his repeated variation on the theme of “communist” is just one more example of an increasingly obnoxious trend that has been plaguing the so-called “discourse” of the American right.

Just what everyone needs . . a liberal giving lessons on manners. LOL.....I guess they set the example in their public schools and neighborhoods

Such delusion.


8 posted on 07/11/2010 8:43:21 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Chi-townChief

Kathleen “Loony” Rooney...


9 posted on 07/11/2010 8:44:19 AM PDT by bcsco (First there was Slick Willie. Now there's "Oil Slick" Barry...)
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To: Chi-townChief
Kathleen Rooney should do less column writing and wayyyyyyyyyyy more nude modeling.

Pics, please.

10 posted on 07/11/2010 8:45:23 AM PDT by rfp1234
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To: Chi-townChief

I prefer using a different “c-word” to describe leftists: corporatist.


11 posted on 07/11/2010 8:45:23 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: Chi-townChief

That’s the whole alphabet they’ve covered now, right?


12 posted on 07/11/2010 8:45:47 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: Chi-townChief

When one of the other guests discovered that my sister and her husband were not rooting for the Americans, but rather were quietly pulling for the underdog Ghana, he became belligerent, calling them a number of names that are unprintable in a family newspaper but also asserting that they were “a couple of filthy communists,” “total commies,” “godless commies,” etc., etc., pursuing them through the party


IT’S FRIGGIN’ SOCCER. WGAS?


13 posted on 07/11/2010 8:46:19 AM PDT by Grunthor (I like you but when the zombies chase us, I'm tripping you.)
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To: Chi-townChief

Stop being a Godless Commie, Kathleen. What a communist b***h.


14 posted on 07/11/2010 8:46:53 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Chi-townChief
I propose a compromise. Instead of calling lefties "filthy, godless commies", call them "filthy, godless Democrats".

Make "Democrat" the new epithet. It mostly would be accurate, too.

15 posted on 07/11/2010 8:47:27 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Chi-townChief

This commie broad is a terrible writer.


16 posted on 07/11/2010 8:47:27 AM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: Chi-townChief

Yep, complete fabrication. She set up a strawman to knock down, and at her next tofu and MD 20-20 party with the black panthers she’ll be craning her neck to listen for compliments on how enlightened and open-minded she is.

And no, I don’t think Kathleen is a commie. She smells more like a goosestepping fascist. Sieg Heil! sweet-cheeks.


17 posted on 07/11/2010 8:50:37 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: rfp1234

Rooney wrote a book at one point about her life as a nude model. From the clothed pics of her I see, I don’t think the people who hired her paid very much.


18 posted on 07/11/2010 8:52:04 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Chi-townChief

Who is this Commie C***?


19 posted on 07/11/2010 8:52:51 AM PDT by csvset
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To: Chi-townChief; Carley; Clint Williams

Oh yeah! Truly profound. I wonder when, given the state of the economy and the decline of Old Media when this oh-so-profound outre, daring, hipster-intellectual, sex-kitten literatus may have to go back to taking her clothes off for money. Perhaps in a setting other than an artist’s studio?
And who uses “communist” as an epithet these days, anyway?

You have to get a load of this, impossible to parody:

http://coloradoreview.colostate.edu/cr/bookreviews/livenudeelf.html


20 posted on 07/11/2010 8:52:52 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: PapaBear3625

She is so 1998. Don’t know how people like that eke out a living these days.

Oh. I forgot, Obama-money.


21 posted on 07/11/2010 8:54:18 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: rfp1234
You probably have to buy her book >>> Live Nude Girl: My Life as an Object [Hardcover] Kathleen Rooney
22 posted on 07/11/2010 8:55:43 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

‘Which is to say, is it identical - per the actual definition of “communism” - to: embracing a social structure in which classes are eradicated and property is commonly controlled? No. It might make you mad or confused to view a sporting event at which not every single spectator feels like chanting “USA!” and “We’re No. 1!”, but it is not, technically, “communist.”’

Let’s use another ‘c’ word - collectivist. The group trumps the individual.


23 posted on 07/11/2010 8:56:03 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Chi-townChief

If Rooney’s sister and her husband like Ghana so much they should go live there. Morons.


24 posted on 07/11/2010 8:59:32 AM PDT by Enterprise (As a disaster unfolds, a putz putts.)
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To: Chi-townChief

what a ditz. . .she is confusing Marxist “ideology” with Marxist “tactics.” Many further the Marxist cause as unwitting pawns, “useful idiots” . . .this is the strategic, tactical side of Marxism. . .which includes, by the way, “the big lie” tactic. Saul Alinsky’s “Rules” are about tactics. . .not so much about ideology. . .but know for certain the tactics definitely further the ideology.


25 posted on 07/11/2010 9:00:45 AM PDT by McBuff
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To: Chi-townChief

Dear Kathleen, you are a commie.


26 posted on 07/11/2010 9:01:18 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: Chi-townChief

NoDeck


27 posted on 07/11/2010 9:01:23 AM PDT by FrankR ( If we don't stand up to tyranny, the tyrants win, and we're enslaved.)
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To: Chi-townChief

Is Ms Rooney a Communist?

Those who have to say they are not, well, there is a clue right there!


28 posted on 07/11/2010 9:02:29 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Chi-townChief

What filty, totally Godless Commie wrote this idiotic article!!??


29 posted on 07/11/2010 9:03:16 AM PDT by Gritty (Modern liberals might as well march around wearing jackboots and arm bands - Don Feder)
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To: Chi-townChief

Looks also like she is fiull of herself and must talk down to people so they “understand” that she is much smarter. Where is the *barf* alert?


30 posted on 07/11/2010 9:03:39 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Chi-townChief

Looks also like she is full of herself and must talk down to people so they “understand” that she is much smarter. Where is the *barf* alert?


31 posted on 07/11/2010 9:03:49 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Chi-townChief

Huh... After reading as much of this hand-wringing tripe as I could handle (a few paragraphs) I dismissed the author as a pig and went straight to the comments. So... she does nude modeling?


32 posted on 07/11/2010 9:07:39 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Chi-townChief
The author's argument is a bit naive. According to her criteria, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics wasn't "communist" either. When McCarthy accused people of being communists it was because he believed these people were acting in sympathy or concert with the USSR to undermine the United States and western capitalistic governments. To take "Equal rights for gay, lesbian and transgendered people," as an example, certainly there are people who came to think this would be a good thing on their own; or at least they think they did. But just as certainly there were people within the USSR who had ideas about weakening the moral fabric of the US as part of a strategy toward undermining it. And some see the mainstreaming of homosexuality as one of those ideas. Whether such people are correct or not doesn't really matter. They are merely using the word "communist" because they believe it to have some association with those Soviets who wished to undermine our society.

And who could argue with them?

ML/NJ

33 posted on 07/11/2010 9:07:58 AM PDT by ml/nj
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“1. A political theory of total collectivism in an utterly classless and stateless society? If no, don’t say “communist”; just say, “Shut up.” If yes, go right ahead.”

We already have a collectivist agitprop in the newspapers and mainstream media pushing the left’s game.

The Boy-Queen and his minions have floated various incarnations of a cashless, classless society in their talks and in their thinktanks. Mostly it is so that no one can escape the long arm of taxation nor can anyone attempt to rise above a level dictated by the secretariat of billionaires who resemble nothing more than soviet insiders and communist cronies ruling the prolitariat. The internet allows everyone to read a lot of information so nothing can hide from view.

Speaking of which, just this week TSA attempted to censor sites along with the government’s grab of internet “security.”

“2. An economic system based on the principle “From each according to their ability, to each according to their need”? If no, don’t say “communist”; just say, “I am incapable of listening to, let alone respecting or considering, an opinion that is not the same as mine.” If yes, go right ahead.”

The redistribution of money from private individuals through taxation and confiscation through onerous capital gains taxes is exactly that. I’m to pay a 3.8 percent tax on home sales and other real estate transactions. Middle-income people must pay the full tax even if they are “rich” for only one day – the day they sell their . This is to support healthcare.

“3. A form of socialism that abolishes private ownership? If no, don’t say “communist”; just say, “My ignorance makes me defensive and hostile toward people who make different decisions than I do.” If yes, go right ahead.”

Oh ho! The crux of this is the nationalization of entire swaths of industry, finance and soon to be medicine, big pharmaceuticals, and medical products. Next? The oil industry.

Yeah, I still own my house. How long before the taxes make it impossible to support it? How long before the mortgage deduction is stopped according to plans in the works just this week from the IMF for US austerity measures? What’s the point of owning a house if every benefit is ended.

Also take a look at the sustainable housing now being planned. That’s enough to end personal property along with running small business and farmers out of business.

It’s all incremental, honey. The Bolsheviks wear suits this time and use computers and censorship to conquer.


34 posted on 07/11/2010 9:08:33 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: sinanju

LOL, thanks for the link!
Rooney is a whore who doesn’t have the guts to admit it to herself!


35 posted on 07/11/2010 9:10:43 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Chi-townChief

Two thoughts -

Does Ms. Rooney also ask Liberals to stop using the R-Word for those of us who disagree with President Obama’s policies?

Can you imagine what would happen to a Brit or German if they mentioned that they were rooting against their team? I believe it would more than one person going after them.


36 posted on 07/11/2010 9:11:13 AM PDT by rwa265 (Christ my Cornerstone)
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To: Chi-townChief

I wonder how she defines other meaningful words, like “marriage.”

Since we are being precise and all.


37 posted on 07/11/2010 9:11:29 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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SouthtownStar?

Isn't that Comrade Zero's neighborhood rag?

The whole bit about rooting for Ghana would not be a big deal, were it not for the fact that libtards continually root against the United States.

38 posted on 07/11/2010 9:12:20 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Chi-townChief
I sincerely doubt that few conservatives would actually give a damn about a soccer game.

But then again, the "Right" just a liberal term for those that disagree with them?

Perhaps that person, (if not completely fictional) knew the Ghana fans well enough, to know they were Communists. Being that they are friends of the author, it seems quite possible.

39 posted on 07/11/2010 9:14:33 AM PDT by wendell
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To: Chi-townChief

Noticed she didn’t include abortion or end of life issues.

I hope they’re not ashamed of those. ]:~)


40 posted on 07/11/2010 9:14:53 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Carley

Submitted without proof that the boor was a “right winger”. Sounds like a a typical drunken knucklehead to me.


41 posted on 07/11/2010 9:15:55 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Chi-townChief

Let’s see; A liberal speaking about alleged name-calling on the part of a family member who utters the word “communist”.

Where is the writer when Democrats regularly utter the words “neanderthal”, “knuckle-dragger”, “ignorant”,
“bible-thumper”, “gun-loving”, “stupid”, “Nazi”, among many others to describe those who do not subscribe to the ideas of Democrats?

Just asking.


42 posted on 07/11/2010 9:19:33 AM PDT by ripley
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Instead, what conservatives generally mean when they name-call someone a "communist" is: "I disagree with you, and I resent and oppose your democratic right to hold and express an opinion that is different from mine, antithetical as that is to the entire concept and spirit of democracy." they are either a genuine communist or they are a communist sympathizer (which is just as evil as being a communist, so being so precise is not necessary).
43 posted on 07/11/2010 9:21:41 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Chi-townChief

Who did she aid in the Senate, I wonder? The overtly corrupt Mosely Braun character?


44 posted on 07/11/2010 9:22:58 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: secret garden
I can answer my own question here. Apparently she was fired for publishing gossip from Sen. Durbin the turban's office.
45 posted on 07/11/2010 9:27:18 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: Lancey Howard

Yeah - she’s one of the rare hot-looking liberal babes.


46 posted on 07/11/2010 9:28:49 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

Obviously, words, especially those uttered in anger, are often misused.
In my view, the evil, calculated, silence-inducing and debate-ending leftist use of the word “racism” to kowtow dissent is far more common than use of the “c” word, and far more pernicious.
BTW, I’ll be watching baseball today. Guess I’m not a citizen of the world like our ‘resident.


47 posted on 07/11/2010 9:29:37 AM PDT by BIV (typical white person)
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To: Chi-townChief

I would typically refer the people like Kathleen as ‘socialists’ which is much of a catch-all for a range of ideologies that might nuance themselves out into any odd number of isms.


48 posted on 07/11/2010 9:31:26 AM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: Chi-townChief

Hmm, if the cover is her, then she’s a little “bottom heavy and top light.”


49 posted on 07/11/2010 9:32:16 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Greed and envy is used by our political class to exploit the rich and poor.)
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To: Enterprise

The number of Americans who could locate Ghana on a map, name it’s capital and current political leader without looking them up would be rather small. The people mentioned in this piece were cheering Ghana because the participants were black.


50 posted on 07/11/2010 9:34:55 AM PDT by xp38
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