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Holder Floats Possibility of Racial Profiling Suit Against Arizona
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Posted on 07/11/2010 3:47:12 PM PDT by mreerm

since Holder can't come up with something of importance/value, he screams RACISM...it's what the 0bamites do

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Holder Floats Possibility of Racial Profiling Suit Against Arizona because he is a pin head. Since he can't come up with something substantive, he, as part of the 0bama administration, screams RACISM.

it's the best they can do

1 posted on 07/11/2010 3:47:18 PM PDT by mreerm
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To: mreerm

Holder decides he has more room to look even stupider...


2 posted on 07/11/2010 3:49:19 PM PDT by avacado
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To: mreerm

How about a Suit against racist Holder for profiling White Americans?


3 posted on 07/11/2010 3:49:55 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: mreerm

Getting these people out of office is really not enough. They should be convicted of racial hatred and treason. This is by a huge, huge margin the most radical administration that has ever held federal office.


4 posted on 07/11/2010 3:50:20 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: mreerm
This clearly racist Holder is unable to file a lawsuit for racial profiling until “racial profiling” actually happens!

Unlike the Black Panthers voter intimidation that occurred on camera and to several voters who felt intimidated by the “billy club” being carried by a Black Panther. Racist Holder could not find a crime being committed in this situation, but, will file a Federal lawsuit against Arizona for racial profiling and the law does not go into effect until July 30, 2010!

Go figure!

5 posted on 07/11/2010 3:51:11 PM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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To: mreerm

I want to lodge a complaint over the fact that I’m being ideologically and politically profiled.


6 posted on 07/11/2010 3:51:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: mreerm

Unbelievable. As bad as they are these people never cease to amaze me.

I hope the Govs and the Gop congress/Senate have the cajunas to stand when he tries to legalize 30 million Mexicans.


7 posted on 07/11/2010 3:51:47 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: Cheetahcat

In a few months.
He’ll be in the dock.


8 posted on 07/11/2010 3:51:51 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: mreerm

How is illegal a race? Where is this mystical country called illegal?


9 posted on 07/11/2010 3:52:12 PM PDT by svcw (True freedom cannot be granted by any man or government, only by Christ.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
I think you are far underestimating the situation.

:-)

10 posted on 07/11/2010 3:52:28 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Rahm and George at Doe's when the knife came down)
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To: mreerm; All
Stand with Arizona!

SB 1070 defense fund swells [> 1/2 of donations since US challenge to immigration law]

11 posted on 07/11/2010 3:53:25 PM PDT by EdReform (Stop Obamacare - Join the Obamacare Class Action Suit: www.obamacareclassaction.com)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Sad as it makes me to say this . . . No he won’t be in the dock.


12 posted on 07/11/2010 3:53:48 PM PDT by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: avacado

When it comes to powerful government officials, there is a thin line between “stupid”” and “dangerous”.


13 posted on 07/11/2010 3:53:55 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: cripplecreek

hey...wadaya think......

“slacker-n-chief”


14 posted on 07/11/2010 3:54:14 PM PDT by mreerm
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To: mreerm
The obama team just LOST...


racecard


15 posted on 07/11/2010 3:55:18 PM PDT by FrankR ( If we don't stand up to tyranny, the tyrants win, and we're enslaved.)
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To: Cheetahcat
No doubt Holder discriminates on the basis of race, political affiliation, color, occupation, religion, and everything else.

If you're not a black homosexual drug user you probably don't have a chance with Eric around.

16 posted on 07/11/2010 3:56:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mreerm

I submit we file a Racial Profiling Suit against the White House!


17 posted on 07/11/2010 3:56:19 PM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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To: mreerm

The biggest profiler in America is the greedy/deadbeat us government that produce NOTHING but debt.


18 posted on 07/11/2010 3:56:39 PM PDT by taxtruth (Something really stinks In The Federal Government/Mafia and I think it's BO!)
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To: mreerm

What a CLOWN.


19 posted on 07/11/2010 3:58:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: mreerm
To some in the black community, it is a way of life.

If they can't get their way or are even caught red handed, they scream racism. Just ask Jessie Jerkson.

A black woman dinged my kids new car door yesterday, as my kid watched as she came out of the store. The woman denied it and accused my kid of being racist, when she was confronted.

I'm getting real sick of this crap.

20 posted on 07/11/2010 3:58:25 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Professional Politicians are a Threat to the Republic! Remove them on 11-3-10!)
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To: mreerm

Mexican is not a “race”. Neither is American, for that matter. The Arizona law is not profiling. We don’t profile races, we profile criminals.


21 posted on 07/11/2010 4:01:11 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Democrats = authoritarian socialists)
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To: mreerm

Holder badly needs to get canned.


22 posted on 07/11/2010 4:03:21 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Democrats = authoritarian socialists)
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To: mreerm

Holder would loose a logic war with a smurf.

Guess Yale Law is trying to out dufus Harvard Law.

So far, it’s a pretty even race.

The good lawyers in the “Justice” Dept must be livid.

Once, they actually had a reputation.


23 posted on 07/11/2010 4:10:27 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: mreerm

Reminds me of the Federal use of tariffs to impoverish and subjugate the South before such efforts resulted in the War of Northern Aggression, aka “Civil War”.


24 posted on 07/11/2010 4:12:08 PM PDT by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: avacado

You’re probably right, although I didn’t think it was possible. Holder is stretching himself on this one.


25 posted on 07/11/2010 4:17:08 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: mreerm

Holder is the bigot.


26 posted on 07/11/2010 4:18:07 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Communism has arrived in Washington)
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To: mreerm

Holder manufacturers a racial profile case against Arizona, but ignores the ugliest case of voter intimidation case by those black panthers. These guys are unreal.


27 posted on 07/11/2010 4:22:09 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: mreerm

I don’t understand what ‘race’ has to even do with the issue.

If you are an illegal immigrant, you are illegal. Doesn’t matter whether you are red,white,green,black, or blue.

If you don’t speak the language, then it is just human logic that concludes you may not be an American Citizen.

There are many ‘obvious’ things to look for by LE when their concern is that the person they have encountered may be ‘illegal’. After all, they are supposed to be ‘enforcing the law’.

The most important justifiable reason the cops should be allowed to question citizenship is because they have different procedures to follow for ‘citizens’ vs. ‘non-citizens’. They are supposed to report ‘illegals’ to immigration. How can they do so if they are not allowed to even ask?


28 posted on 07/11/2010 4:24:32 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
A black woman dinged my kids new car door yesterday, as my kid watched as she came out of the store. The woman denied it and accused my kid of being racist, when she was confronted.

Never park next to the HANDICAP SPACES.

29 posted on 07/11/2010 4:28:15 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: mreerm

Reality vs. Myth: SB1070

Make it illegal in the State of Arizona for an alien to not register with the government, thus being an “illegal alien” (already the case at the federal level: 8 USC 1306a; USC 1304e)

Allow police to detain people where there is a “reasonable suspicion” that they’re illegal aliens (see the recent court case Estrada v. Rhode Island for an idea of what “reasonable suspicion” might entail)

Prohibits sanctuary cities (already prohibited at the federal level, 8 USC 1373) and allows citizens to sue any such jurisdiction

Reality vs. Myth: SB1070

Myth No. 1: The law requires aliens to carry identification that they weren’t already required to carry.

Reality: It has been a federal crime (8 United States Code Section 1304(a) or 1306(e)) since 1940 for aliens to fail to carry their registration documents. The Arizona law reaffirms the federal law. Anyone who has traveled abroad knows that other nations have similar requirements. The majority requests for documentation will take place during the course of other police business such as traffic stops. Because Arizona allows only lawful residents to obtain licenses, an officer must presume that someone who produces one is legally in the country. (See News Hour clip 3:45 seconds in)

Myth No. 2: The law will encourage racial profiling.

Reality: The Arizona law reduces the chances of racial profiling by requiring officers to contact the federal government when they suspect a person is an illegal alien as opposed to letting them make arrests on their own assessment as federal law currently allows. Section 2 was amended (by HB2162) to read that a law enforcement official “may not consider race, color, or national origin” in making any stops or determining an alien’s immigration status (previously, they were prohibited in “solely” considering those factors). In addition, all of the normal Fourth Amendment protections against racial profiling still apply.

Myth No. 3: “Reasonable suspicion” is a meaningless term that will permit police misconduct.

Reality: “Reasonable suspicion” has been defined by the courts for decades (the Fourth Amendment itself proscribes “unreasonable searches and seizures”). One of the most recent cases, Estrada v. Rhode Island, provides an example of the courts refining of “reasonable suspicion:”

A 15 passenger van is pulled over for a traffic violation. The driver of the van had identification but the other passengers did not (some had IDs from a gym membership, a non-driver’s license card from the state, and IDs issued from the Guatemalan Consulate). The passengers said they were on their way to work but they had no work permits. Most could not speak English but upon questioning, admitted that they were in the United States illegally. The officer notified ICE and waited three minutes for instructions.

The SB1070 provision in question reads:
“For any lawful contact made by a law enforcement official or agency of this state . . . where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person.”

Myth No. 4: The law will require Arizona police officers to stop and question people.

Reality: The law only kicks in when a police officer stopped, detained, or arrested someone (HB2162). The most likely contact is during the issuance of a speeding ticket. The law does not require the officer to begin questioning a person about his immigration status or to do anything the officer would not otherwise do.

Only after a stop is made, and subsequently the officer develops reasonable suspicion on his own that an immigration law has been violated, is any obligation imposed. At that point, the officer is required to call ICE to confirm whether the person is an illegal alien.

The Arizona law is actually more restrictive than federal law. In Muehler v. Mena (2005), the Supreme Court ruled that officers did not need reasonable suspicion to justify asking a suspect about their immigration status, stating that the court has “held repeatedly that mere police questioning does not constitute a seizure” under the Fourth Amendment).

Source = http://www.numbersusa.com/dfax?jid=475466&lid=9&rid=123&series=tp06MAY10&tid=999725


30 posted on 07/11/2010 4:30:05 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (drain the swamp! ( then napalm it and pave it over ))
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To: mreerm

He must be held in cotempt or something worse or he will file suits holding up the enforcement for ever.

Arizona must disregard the federal court saying it has no standing.


31 posted on 07/11/2010 4:34:40 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... The winds of war are freshening)
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To: paratrooper82
Holder and the rest of the admin. should be sued for racial profiling. The profile for preferential purposes!
32 posted on 07/11/2010 4:35:00 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mreerm

Holder will do whatever Obama tells him to do.

He is merely a stooge .


33 posted on 07/11/2010 4:54:17 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer
I read an interesting little piece from the economist Malcom Gladwell in his latest book, Outliers discussing aspects of his common Carribbean heritage with that of Holder and Colin Powell of the enormous emphasis put on status based on the light skinned advantage that men like Holder and Powell have because they have lighter complexions. I thought it was an honest assessment of racism within a race. The sort of honest discussion that Holder doesn't want any part of. Holder has as many issues with his race as Obama. They both need to face their own issues with race before they start lecturing the rest of us.
34 posted on 07/11/2010 5:11:38 PM PDT by madinmadtown
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To: popdonnelly

Just one too many ‘n’s in that last word, m’FRiend.


35 posted on 07/11/2010 5:17:04 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: mreerm

The 0bama administration has a weak argument going in — that “patchwork” thing and the state horning in on federal privilege.

Maybe they’re planning to beef up their charges when 1070 goes into effect — and maybe they’ve already got a few volunteers lined up to claim racism, profiling and other violations.

They just can’t jump the gun, but they wanted a lawsuit “in place” so they brought the lame charges first.

IANAL. Not even close. (Wish I were, the law is fascinating.)


36 posted on 07/11/2010 5:27:42 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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To: Cheetahcat

How about Jan Brewer filing a Quo Warranto and AZ actually passing that show me your BC law for 2012.


37 posted on 07/11/2010 5:30:19 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

“This is by a huge, huge margin the most radical administration that has ever held federal office.”

That’s a fact.


38 posted on 07/11/2010 5:40:18 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: mreerm
The US Census is 25-pages of racial profiling, Erica.

But that's OK because it's used to discriminated against Whitey, isn't that right?

39 posted on 07/11/2010 5:48:09 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: mreerm
The only racial profiling going on is by the Justice Department and Holder himself, by not prosecuting bias cases against non-white defendants.

It's indefensible, so he tries to change the subject.

40 posted on 07/11/2010 5:50:07 PM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: mreerm
It's called CRIMINAL PROFILING, they teach it at the academy.

...well, they used to.

41 posted on 07/11/2010 5:56:25 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: mreerm

IMHO a discrimination suit against this whole adminstration should be brought. From allowing ACORN actions to the New Black Pathers to doing everything in their power to hurt everyone who isn’t a minority.


42 posted on 07/11/2010 6:07:10 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: mreerm

Holder described Arizona’s law as “contradictory to what the federal government is trying to accomplish”. Is he going to court with that argument?


43 posted on 07/11/2010 6:16:08 PM PDT by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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To: madinmadtown
I read an interesting little piece from the economist Malcom Gladwell in his latest book, Outliers discussing aspects of his common Carribbean heritage with that of Holder and Colin Powell of the enormous emphasis put on status based on the light skinned advantage that men like Holder and Powell have because they have lighter complexions. I thought it was an honest assessment of racism within a race. The sort of honest discussion that Holder doesn't want any part of. Holder has as many issues with his race as Obama. They both need to face their own issues with race before they start lecturing the rest of us.

Holder and his wife are from the light skinned Barbados elite that rule over the darker black people. They have zero slave blood just like Barack 0bama. Where does that hypocrite Holder get off b******* about America's "historical racial problems" when his people came here voluntarily for a better life than on Barbados?

"Holder's father, Eric. Sr., was a native of Barbados who emigrated to the U.S. as a boy. ... while his maternal grandparents were immigrants from Saint Philip, Barbados"

Gladwell has something like 1/16th black blood. He himself is unusual coming off as very high IQ but light in the loafers

http://www.racetraitoress.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/holderfamily.jpg
Holder w wife and children and a grandmother on the left

44 posted on 07/11/2010 6:20:20 PM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: mreerm

The RAT Governors told Obama that his suit against AZ was a vote loser and then his AG comes out and promises much more of the same. What was that definition of insanity again?


45 posted on 07/11/2010 6:42:37 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (See You in November)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“In a few months.
He’ll be in the dock.”

Worthless hateful idiot and POS needs to leave.


46 posted on 07/11/2010 7:14:09 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: muawiyah

“No doubt Holder discriminates on the basis of race, political affiliation, color, occupation, religion, and everything else.

If you’re not a black homosexual drug user you probably don’t have a chance with Eric around.”

and killing white people gets a special pass from the Loon.


47 posted on 07/11/2010 7:16:05 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Frantzie

“How about Jan Brewer filing a Quo Warranto and AZ actually passing that show me your BC law for 2012.”

Got my vote and make it a felony so the Kenyan gets Jail time.


48 posted on 07/11/2010 7:18:11 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: mreerm

His law suit claiming Arizona’s law to enfore the law is against the law is not going to work. His “black up” plan is RACISM!!!!


49 posted on 07/12/2010 12:43:57 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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