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Mel Gibson's mainstream Hollywood career is over -- for real, this time
L.A Times ^ | July 9th, 2010

Posted on 07/11/2010 3:59:49 PM PDT by TaraP

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To: trumandogz

“Sorry, I see little difference between the words of Rev Wright and the words of Mel Gibson.”

Gibson was either drunk, or mistakenly thought he was speaking in private.


101 posted on 07/11/2010 5:16:45 PM PDT by devere
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To: devere

A person should not be excused for their hateful words simply because they are drunk.


102 posted on 07/11/2010 5:18:57 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

It doesn’t bother you that he said these things in private and was recorded. I can’t imagine how bad I would sound if someone cherry picked comments from my moments of anger.

She wants MONEY.


103 posted on 07/11/2010 5:19:12 PM PDT by HospiceNurse
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To: Sooth2222
There are several different drugs that can keep the Bi-Polar condition under control, but the problem with many, maybe even most people, who are Bi-Polar is they don't take their meds for a variety of reasons. They take their meds for a week or two, start feeling and behaving better, then stop. Oops, here we go again.
104 posted on 07/11/2010 5:20:34 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: trumandogz

Let’s see Mel said: *The Jews are responsible for all the Wars*

REV WRIGHT:

Wright then commented on God and government:

“And the United States of America government, when it came to treating her citizens of Indian descent fairly, she failed.

She put them on reservations. When it came to treating her citizens of Japanese descent fairly, she failed. She put them in internment prison camps.

When it came to treating her citizens of African descent fairly, America failed. She put them in chains, the government put them on slave quarters, put them on auction blocks, put them in cotton field, put them in inferior schools, put them in substandard housing, put them in scientific experiments, put them in the lowest paying jobs, put them outside the equal protection of the law, kept them out of their racist bastions of higher education and locked them into positions of hopelessness and helplessness.

The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing ‘God Bless America.’ No, no, no, not God Bless America. God damn America — that’s in the Bible — for killing innocent people. God damn America, for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America, as long as she tries to act like she is God, and she is supreme.

The United States government has failed the vast majority of her citizens of African descent


105 posted on 07/11/2010 5:20:57 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: Siena Dreaming
Some say $60 M.

Others say $80 million plus another $20 million for marketing.

106 posted on 07/11/2010 5:21:01 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: beaversmom

Yes, and I hope he does. Life really is too short.


107 posted on 07/11/2010 5:21:33 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: trumandogz

So you don’t know?


108 posted on 07/11/2010 5:21:46 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: trumandogz

A Person should not be excused for hateful words simply because they are drunk.

I forgave my Father.....


109 posted on 07/11/2010 5:23:11 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: SteveH
I'm not sure what this has to do with racism

More slurs were on that tape than just racist comments.

Gibson said that he got addicted to everything. I assume that also means sex. The trouble he has had with women, including the current one, additionally leads me to believe that he's got trouble in this area.

As far as Atlanta...Rochester, etc. I really have no idea.

110 posted on 07/11/2010 5:23:31 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming

“But for the media to declare his career over because of bad words said? Silly”

If Mel wants to work, he can work.

However, I’m not sure Americans want to see a film staring a man who goes on Anti-Semitic rants, and tells the mother of his child that she is going to be raped by a bunch of N-Bombs.

You see, we people here in Middle America do not want to support, with our hard earned dollars, a movie or an actor with such foibles.


111 posted on 07/11/2010 5:23:37 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

My Father said to me I would rather see you dead! than with a :N-Bombs. But you know he still kept his JOB and people still hired him because of his work...


112 posted on 07/11/2010 5:26:37 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: TaraP

“When it came to treating her citizens of African descent fairly, America failed. She put them in chains, the government put them on slave quarters, put them on auction blocks, put them in cotton field, put them in inferior schools... put them in scientific experiments...”

At least Wright got some of it right.


113 posted on 07/11/2010 5:27:22 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: TaraP

Um, you mean like Robert Downey Jr.’s career is over?


114 posted on 07/11/2010 5:27:39 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: TaraP

Let’s remember that what Gibson said was said during what he thought was a private conversation (okay, “rant”). He was not speaking for public consumption.

Now, I’m not defending his use of racial epithets, just simply pointing out that the vast majority of us do not consistently use the same language and display of temperament around everyone with whom we interact. I will be honest and admit that the language I use around my friends is not the same language I necessarily use around my mother and younger nieces and nephews. Nor are some of the far-from-politically correct opinions I express privately what I would always want available for all the world to see and hear.

(For the sake of this particular argument, let’s compartmentalize this most recent revelation and forget the drunk-driving rants from a couple years ago -— just for a moment):

What are we saying here exactly? That in America, where we have free speech rights, a man’s livlihood should be taken away because we don’t approve of his private prejudices -— views expressed during a (supposedly) private argument? Have we not all said things in anger and used language we know might be particularly offensive to our opponent, intending to offend them, but without any intention of ever expressing such sentiments publicly or around people we respect.

I just know I would really not want the conversations I have in my most private moments publicized and then have my livlihood affected by the judgements other people make with information with which they are not entitled.


115 posted on 07/11/2010 5:27:42 PM PDT by MIlle
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To: trumandogz

he fits right in


116 posted on 07/11/2010 5:27:42 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Clintonfatigued
"I agree with this article. Mel Gibson has lost credibility with virtually everyone."

You forgot the most important part of the sentence: "until his next hit."

117 posted on 07/11/2010 5:28:33 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: trumandogz

Funny how you forgot to add in the Africans who SOLD their (People)slaves into bondage....

What history book do you read.


118 posted on 07/11/2010 5:28:56 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: TaraP

I thought it was illegal to tape someone without their consent?


119 posted on 07/11/2010 5:29:09 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: TaraP

Did the people that employed your dad know he said those things and did he say those things so that the customers could hear him?


120 posted on 07/11/2010 5:29:33 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

“A person should not be excused for their hateful words simply because they are drunk.”

I’m not an admirer of Mel Gibson, just an enemy of vicious lying Liberal hypocrites. My guess is if Mel had said something vile about Sarah Palin, the L.A. Times wouldn’t have objected.

And how about the Reverend Wright? He wasn’t even drunk, as far as I know. Nor were his most famous faithful parishioners, Barack and Oprah. What’s their excuse?


121 posted on 07/11/2010 5:29:40 PM PDT by devere
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To: trumandogz

You are getting liberal slobber everywhere.


122 posted on 07/11/2010 5:29:59 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: TaraP

“Funny how you forgot to add in the Africans who SOLD their (People)slaves into bondage....”

And that excuses those who brought human beings from Africa to America to sell them into bondage and those who held those human beings in bondage for hundreds of years?


124 posted on 07/11/2010 5:31:50 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

No my father said what he said in *PRIVATE* nobody TAPED him and plastered it all over the TV, INTERNET and PRINT AD’s....

MEL SAID WHAT HE SAID IN PRIVATE.


125 posted on 07/11/2010 5:32:05 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: Siena Dreaming

Senator Robert Byrd says “white ni**ers” on TV

at 1:14

H


126 posted on 07/11/2010 5:32:13 PM PDT by HospiceNurse
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To: cameraeye
Right after "Passion" the buzz was that he was going to do a film called "Warrior Queen," (not about Barney Frank) about Boadicea who fought the Romans in early England. The word on that was that there was a rape scene that was in its own way very "passion-esque" and as a result, people started slamming him for violence and gore. He dropped it and made this goofy "Apocalypto." Since then, he has only made this take-off on "Taken" with the big bad corporation as Dr. Evil.

The point is, I don't know if he was scared off of "Warrior Queen" by the early criticism or not.

At any rate, it's Hollywood and you're only as good, or bad, as your next hit. Everything else is forgotten.

127 posted on 07/11/2010 5:32:53 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: devere

“And how about the Reverend Wright? He wasn’t even drunk, as far as I know. Nor were his most famous faithful parishioners, Barack and Oprah. What’s their excuse?”

I’m not excusing Wright or those who sat in his church.


128 posted on 07/11/2010 5:33:36 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

“However, I’m not sure Americans want to see a film staring a man who goes on Anti-Semitic rants, and tells the mother of his child that she is going to be raped by a bunch of N-Bombs.”

If Silence of the Lambs is remade, Mel will be offered the role of Hannibal Lecter.


129 posted on 07/11/2010 5:33:44 PM PDT by devere
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To: The Comedian

YOU ARE BAD!

LOL...

Stop posting Jail Bait Photos...


130 posted on 07/11/2010 5:33:54 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Mel Gibson has lost credibility with virtually everyone.

Oh really? And just who is "everyone"? You got a family of mice in your pockets???????

131 posted on 07/11/2010 5:34:02 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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To: LS

“I agree with this article. Mel Gibson has lost credibility with virtually everyone.”

I agree that he’s lost credibilty also -— as a man who embraces Christ’s teachings. I hope he takes time to truly search his heart and pray in the name of Jesus to have the hatred within him cleansed.


132 posted on 07/11/2010 5:34:08 PM PDT by MIlle
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To: trumandogz
I’m not excusing Wright or those who sat in his church.

The hell you aren't.

You are quoting him!

YOU are the racist on this thread.

133 posted on 07/11/2010 5:35:44 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: ronnie raygun

Did you happen to hear the latest Selective Service ad on radio?
The announcer points out there are two great Americans:
Martin Luther King and Ceasar Chavez. I kid you not!
You can tell who is in Command!


134 posted on 07/11/2010 5:35:54 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: TaraP

If he were a longtime Democrat Senator from West Virginia and used racial slurs, would his career be over?


135 posted on 07/11/2010 5:36:03 PM PDT by Hoodat (.For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I guess it cannot be known for sure how much the movie made since there are various sources saying different things.


136 posted on 07/11/2010 5:36:15 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: TaraP

Sorry, I was not aware that Gibson had a right to privacy when he told the police “F#####g Jews...the Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world.”


137 posted on 07/11/2010 5:36:59 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: devere
If Silence of the Lambs is remade, Mel will be offered the role of Hannibal Lecter.

I will shell out good money to see it too!

138 posted on 07/11/2010 5:37:12 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: TaraP

As long as Gibson doesn’t GO MOSLEM, he can scream at that Russian whore all he wants.

Has anybody on this thread ever tried to date a Russian woman?

Gold. Diggers.

They are vicious snakes.


139 posted on 07/11/2010 5:37:12 PM PDT by StopObama2012 (CLICK ME to expose Osaudi)
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To: TaraP

I agree. Mel Gibson is a troubled man...lots of anger in there...but I truly doubt he hates blacks and Jews. He uses all kinds of filthy language. I am disappointed in his running around with the young girl more than anything he has said. I feel so bad for all his kids from his long time wife.


140 posted on 07/11/2010 5:37:39 PM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: Eaker

No, someone else posted that quote.


141 posted on 07/11/2010 5:38:03 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Rodamala

“I thought it was illegal to tape someone without their consent?”

I’m not a lawyer, but I think in most jurisdictions only one party to the conversation has to consent. Maryland is a famous exception.


142 posted on 07/11/2010 5:40:12 PM PDT by devere
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To: trumandogz

Your racist ass agreed with the quote even if you don’t have the guts to repeat it.

If you are white then you are a pathetic obama voter. If you are black then you are a reparations wanting layabout POS.

Either way I would rather be dead than to be you.


143 posted on 07/11/2010 5:41:23 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: trumandogz
You see, we people here in Middle America do not want to support, with our hard earned dollars, a movie or an actor with such foibles

We shall see.

My suspicion is that such "foibles" are overlooked when/if someone does a great movie. If Gibson is still up to it, he will draw an audience even in middle America.

Actual murder, rape, etc. Now those might be "foibles" that people will close their wallet to.

144 posted on 07/11/2010 5:41:36 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: TaraP
Richard Pryor made a career out of using the "N" word..
As did many other race hustlers.. you know.. PimPs..

Some don't even use the word they just "imply" it..
Barry Half-White could be seen as a Whiggar..

145 posted on 07/11/2010 5:41:45 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Eaker
You are getting liberal slobber everywhere.

“When it came to treating her citizens of African descent fairly, America failed. She put them in chains, the government put them on slave quarters, put them on auction blocks, put them in cotton field, put them in inferior schools... put them in scientific experiments...”

So, it is your opinion that only a liberal could believe that America failed by putting African Americans into slavery and into scientific experiments?

146 posted on 07/11/2010 5:42:05 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: TaraP

Unless someone decides they really want to make Mad Max 4 ...


147 posted on 07/11/2010 5:43:00 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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To: trumandogz

Obviously!

You have no CLUE what COPS hear when they arrest DRUNKS!

Actually what MEL said was quite tame..


148 posted on 07/11/2010 5:43:50 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: Abin Sur
A racist one, by all appearances.

And a federal government that has "race?" as question #2 on their decennial national census is what?

What's good for the goose...

149 posted on 07/11/2010 5:44:43 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: trumandogz

You just described 90% of Hollywood. As long as those types stay in Hollywood, Middle America is free of them.


150 posted on 07/11/2010 5:45:36 PM PDT by Badabing Badablonde (New to the internet? CLICK HERE)
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