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Mel Gibson's mainstream Hollywood career is over -- for real, this time
L.A Times ^ | July 9th, 2010

Posted on 07/11/2010 3:59:49 PM PDT by TaraP

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To: TaraP

I’m sorry, I am not willing to excuse people for their actions or words simply because they had a bit too much alcohol.


151 posted on 07/11/2010 5:45:56 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: hosepipe

Will Obozo be inviting Mel for a Beer Summit at the White House? LOL...


152 posted on 07/11/2010 5:46:20 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: trumandogz
So, it is your opinion that only a liberal could believe that America failed by putting African Americans into slavery and into scientific experiments?

America has paid for this mistake over and over. Maybe you and these Shebaz assholes aren't happy but tough. You and your kind will get reparations from me in lead.

And yes, you are a liberal.

153 posted on 07/11/2010 5:46:39 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: trumandogz

Well it sucks to be you IMO...

I have forgave many of people for what they have said with no regret.

In fact I forgave a Drunk (Driver) a repeat offender who Killed my brother by running a red light. My brother was only 17 yrs old....


154 posted on 07/11/2010 5:49:53 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: Eaker

“America has paid for this mistake over and over.”

I’m not quite sure America has paid for the “mistake” of slavery, but even if it has paid for that “mistake,” it does not minimize that mistake or absolve America of slavery and placing African Americans in scientific experiments.

And Slavery should never be scrubbing from our history books.


155 posted on 07/11/2010 5:51:03 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: TaraP

Hollywood does not care if you can forgive Mel, they only care if the marketplace will forgive Mel.


156 posted on 07/11/2010 5:52:46 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz; devere
A person should not be excused for their hateful words simply because they are drunk.

Quite right.

Reagan was so right when he said that conservatives have simple solutions to complex problems. Not easy solutions, simple solutions.

All politics is local, beginning in each individual's travails with temptation.

Mel, take it from a fellow traveler who suffers the same "curse" of booze as you. There's a very simple solution and it is in the palm of your hand, in the core of your heart.

QUIT DRINKING ALCOHOL and move on.

It really is that simple. Not easy. Simple.

Man up to the things that can't be excused, take 'em in the jaw, and face your future: with or without booze? Hmmmm ... Curtain #1 or Curtain #2 .... You're the only one involved -- we come into this world alone, brother, and we go out alone. Redemption for you and your career begins then.

*sigh* Too bad he'll never read this.

157 posted on 07/11/2010 5:53:13 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: trumandogz
He’s a drunk, an anti-Semite and a racist. No need for his kind in Hollywood or Middle America.

I take it, then, that you reject 99% of Hollywood, it's products and the millions of middle American dolts that suck up the anti-semetic, drug addled and racist coastal sewage from Hollywood?
158 posted on 07/11/2010 5:54:14 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
And a federal government that has "race?" as question #2 on their decennial national census is what?

What's good for the goose...

So...because the Federal government inappropriately asks citizens their race in the Census, it follows that Gibson is justified in screaming, "You look like a f***ing pig in heat, and if you get raped by a pack of n***ers, it will be your fault."?

That's an, um, interesting way of looking at it.

159 posted on 07/11/2010 5:54:30 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: trumandogz

It won’t be.

It is you liberals who are always trying to rewrite history.

Face it, you are alone in your obama support here on FR.


160 posted on 07/11/2010 5:55:40 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

I have not had a TV in my home since our first child was born 19 years ago.

So yes, I reject Hollywood.


161 posted on 07/11/2010 5:56:04 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Eaker

What part about slavery has been rewritten in our history books?


162 posted on 07/11/2010 5:57:09 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Eaker

“Face it, you are alone in your obama support here on FR.”

And how exactly does acknowledging that slavery was evil make one an Obama supporter?


163 posted on 07/11/2010 6:00:20 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

I absolutely agree. ..

Granted, Mel Gibson received a lot of grief for making “The Passion,” however, he has had a long and infamous history of womanizing, drinking too much, and anger management issues, even during the years he was married to his wife, Robyn. And aside from his despicable, anti-Semitic and racial slurs of late, he also appears to be disturbingly hypocritical...

He accuses his girlfriend of dressing provocatively, when she has dressed provocatively throughout her career. Has he not seen some of her photo layouts? He accuses her of being a slut and a whore, when he is the one who has been sleeping around with her for over a year, creating an out-of-wedlock baby, while still legally married.

He also sounds downright scary on that released audio, and I can understand why his girlfriend felt threatened enough to record him.

The man is abhorrent, and he is as “Hollywood” as they come.


164 posted on 07/11/2010 6:01:31 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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To: trumandogz

You said Rev Wright’s statements were true..

Yes Slavery existed in the USA and it was *Christians* who were instrumental in wanting to end it...

However the African Kings were the ones who sold their own people into slavery....You missed that part.


165 posted on 07/11/2010 6:01:31 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: TaraP

I’ll be perfectly honest, if Bill Clinton is still an awesome president after sexually harrassing women and lying under oath, I don’t see why Mel Gibson isn’t still an entertaining actor.

Bottom line, he is a professional actor and he does that job well. All the hoopla is because he happens to also stand for things that most of Hollywood hates.


166 posted on 07/11/2010 6:02:23 PM PDT by Vindibudd
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To: TaraP

“Yes Slavery existed in the USA and it was *Christians* who were instrumental in wanting to end it...”

So, you mean that there were no Christians in America prior to the Abolitionist Movement?

And if that was the case, what was the religion of all those who help other human beings in slavery in America for all of those years?


167 posted on 07/11/2010 6:04:23 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Abin Sur
So...because the Federal government inappropriately asks citizens their race in the Census, it follows that Gibson is justified in screaming, "You look like a f***ing pig in heat, and if you get raped by a pack of n***ers, it will be your fault."?

It's called "freedom of speech." New Black Panthers use it all the time, though they don't like it when Glen Beck uses it.

So, what do you want to do Mel? Send him to a gulag. Have that gay Muslim Obama kick his ass?

I'm interested in what fascist thing you would like to do to him.

168 posted on 07/11/2010 6:05:11 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: trumandogz

Quakers have been a significant part of the movements to abolish slavery, promote equal rights for women, and end warfare. They have also promoted education and the humane treatment of prisoners and the mentally ill, through the founding or reforming of various institutions.


169 posted on 07/11/2010 6:06:40 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: TaraP

It’s well and wisely said in Hollywood that, ‘There’s no such thing as bad publicity.’ Gibson will do just fine, thank you.


170 posted on 07/11/2010 6:07:22 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: TaraP
“Yes Slavery existed in the USA and it was *Christians* who were instrumental in wanting to end it...”

So, you mean that there were no Christians in America prior to the Abolitionist Movement?

And if that was the case, what was the religion of all those who held other human beings in slavery in America for all of those years?

171 posted on 07/11/2010 6:07:45 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
You see, we people here in Middle America

Now, now. Let's not misrepresent ourselves, let alone presume to speak for a group so clearly a mystery to you.

172 posted on 07/11/2010 6:08:05 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: trumandogz

Where did I say it was?

You liberals are the ones rewriting history. You ALWAYS leave out the part that blacks were always sold by blacks and that muslims keep slaves now. A current history book resembles nothing of the truth of what happened and the way it happened.

You know that.


173 posted on 07/11/2010 6:09:00 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: trumandogz

Good man. I’m another of the 2% of American’s with better things to do.


174 posted on 07/11/2010 6:09:03 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: trumandogz

You parrot obama.

Without you liberals obama would have never been elected.


175 posted on 07/11/2010 6:10:13 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: TaraP

And prior to the Quakers involvement into the Abolitionist Movement, what was the religion of the slave holders?


176 posted on 07/11/2010 6:10:39 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
And prior to the Quakers involvement into the Abolitionist Movement, what was the religion of the slave holders?

Whatever the majority religion in Africa at the time.

177 posted on 07/11/2010 6:12:39 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: Eaker

Again, simply because when slaves were being imported into America they were first sold to the slave traders by their tribal kings does not absolve the American slave holder for their actions.


178 posted on 07/11/2010 6:14:20 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Non-Sequitur
Loved him in "Ride with the Devil".

of course you did...a dead Rebel...you must have died and gone to heaven

179 posted on 07/11/2010 6:15:21 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am not in favor of practical endorsements in primaries, endorse the conservative please)
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To: muleskinner
If you heard or read what he said to his ex,

What'd she say to him? Recording come into the middle of a fight did it? Who carefully records a fight? Unless the woman is looking for a payday?

I will miss his work.

No you won't. He has contracts for 2 movies.

180 posted on 07/11/2010 6:17:31 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: trumandogz

“And how exactly does acknowledging that slavery was evil make one an Obama supporter?”

An obsession with slavery and racism is the hallmark of an Obama supporter. You need to rant endlessly about slavery and racism because his job performance is so disastrous. It’s really a shame you can’t rant endlessly about the great economy and the super response to the oil spill.

You admit that Barack and Oprah are guilty like Mel. But Barack got elected and Oprah is still on TV, so by your “logic” I guess Mel Gibson is going to do better than ever.


181 posted on 07/11/2010 6:18:41 PM PDT by devere
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To: TaraP
Who cares what Gibson believes as long as he entertains well. In fact, if he's a decent entertainer then the audience would never see the real man.

Why our society assigns such importance to the opinions of mere actors - many of modest education - is beyond me.

182 posted on 07/11/2010 6:18:54 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: trumandogz
Again, simply because when slaves were being imported into America they were first sold to the slave traders by their tribal kings does not absolve the American slave holder for their actions.

If the tribal kings hadn't sold them they wouldn't be here.

If there is nothing that can be done to make it right why should anything ever be done again?

Maybe you and the rest of the obama supporting reparations crowd should all just STFU about it.

183 posted on 07/11/2010 6:18:57 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: TaraP
I would just like to ask *Hollywood* why is Mel Gibson’s Career Over, but that Child Molester Roman Polanski’s isn’t? Hollywood embraces Roman Polanski...

Good question.

184 posted on 07/11/2010 6:21:37 PM PDT by GOPJ (When it's Voter intimidation, the NAACP and the White Citizens Council are brothers under the skin.)
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To: trumandogz

And your point is?


185 posted on 07/11/2010 6:21:55 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: Eaker
If there is nothing that can be done to make it right why should anything ever be done again?

The only thing I said on this tread was that slavery in America was bad and somehow I get attacked as a liberal for not condoning slavery in America.

186 posted on 07/11/2010 6:22:55 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz; TaraP; Eaker
And prior to the Quakers involvement into the Abolitionist Movement, what was the religion of the slave holders?

Since the seventh century, AD, no group has surpassed Islam's practice of Slave Trade. Muslim's still practice legal slave trade on the African continent. Slavery is "illegal" but still common in Saudi Arabia.

Of course, since it can't be blamed on The United States or Christianity trumandogz really doesn't care.

187 posted on 07/11/2010 6:24:52 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: Eaker
If there is nothing that can be done to make it right why should anything ever be done again?

The only thing I said on this tread was that slavery in America was bad and somehow I get attacked as a liberal for not condoning slavery in America.

And yes, a I expect more moral behavior from Americans from the 19th century than I do African tribal leaders from the 17th century.

188 posted on 07/11/2010 6:25:34 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Deagle
“Please... just who in Hollywood do you STILL admire? With their left wing attitudes, you probably can’t name one!”

I could name a bunch of them. Unfortunately most of them are dead, but Pat Boone is still alive. Make it easier, just name the one’s who aren't flaming libs. Is Dennis Miller considered Hollywood? How about Jon Voight? Can any one think of some more?

189 posted on 07/11/2010 6:25:38 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: trumandogz

I would say you are more like a *Sympathizer* You agreed with many of Rev Wright’s statements, and he is as *Rabid* as you can get.


190 posted on 07/11/2010 6:26:16 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: RegulatorCountry; Black Agnes
trumandogz is habitually hypersensitive about Jewish and black issues though he claims to be neither

meanwhile Hollywoood is blatantly hostile to Christianity and Hip Hop is openly derogatory to the stupidassed whites who buy the music and those like TD who bemoan when white Christians act up are strangely silent over all that which is an offense in practice 1000X more common than Gibson's rants to his octomom looking baby mama

TD started by claiming how horrible Gibson was and then when freepers claimed others are as bad just from the other side of coin then they are accused of defending Gibson but no one has...they are just pointing out the utter hypocrisy of how libtard Jews can make movies to smear Christians and conservative sand folks cheer Jay Z or Spike Lee) can smear whites in Obama's earshot and he's exalted like a high priest but a drunk white Catholic wanders off the reservation with his own demons and he's held accountable

so who's more damaging to America I ask? Harvey Weinstien and Jay Z or Mel Gibson?

191 posted on 07/11/2010 6:26:29 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am not in favor of practical endorsements in primaries, endorse the conservative please)
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To: Grizzled Bear

I don’t think I have condoned slavey practiced in the Islamic world.


192 posted on 07/11/2010 6:27:14 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
The only thing I said on this tread was that slavery in America was bad and somehow I get attacked as a liberal for not condoning slavery in America.

Just like all liberals you are a terrible liar too.

I never walk away from a thread you have posted on without needing a shower.

193 posted on 07/11/2010 6:27:22 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: patriot08

Don’t leave out Gary Graham. He’s one of the best there is at Big Hollywood.


194 posted on 07/11/2010 6:29:25 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: TaraP

So you disagree with this statement:

“When it came to treating her citizens of African descent fairly, America failed. She put them in chains, the government put them on slave quarters, put them on auction blocks, put them in cotton field, put them in inferior schools... put them in scientific experiments...”


195 posted on 07/11/2010 6:29:52 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

I ask the question again boy,

“If there is nothing that can be done to make it right why should anything ever be done again?”


196 posted on 07/11/2010 6:30:00 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: Rodamala

It seems that the taping was a criminal misdmeannor in California punishable by up to one year in jail.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=630-638


197 posted on 07/11/2010 6:31:22 PM PDT by devere
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To: Eaker

I have called for no actions to make it right.


198 posted on 07/11/2010 6:31:30 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
So you disagree with this statement:

“When it came to treating her citizens of African descent fairly, America Africa failed. She put them in chains, the government put them on slave quarters, put them on auction blocks, put them in cotton field, put them in inferior schools... put them sold them for use in scientific experiments...”

199 posted on 07/11/2010 6:33:06 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: trumandogz; Eaker
I don’t think I have condoned slavey practiced in the Islamic world.

Of course you haven't. You've been far too busy condemning the United States and Christians at every turn.

200 posted on 07/11/2010 6:34:03 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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