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Mel Gibson's mainstream Hollywood career is over -- for real, this time
L.A Times ^ | July 9th, 2010

Posted on 07/11/2010 3:59:49 PM PDT by TaraP

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To: TaraP
Like most of society he's been programmed for selective outrage.

I wince when I read this kind of stuff about people I admire, but I have a hard time getting really p*ssed off when I see hate directed at non-preferred groups every day and no one bats an eye.

51 posted on 07/11/2010 4:32:40 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: TaraP
Radar Online broke the news that Gibson had verbally abused his girlfriend Oksana Grigorieva by using the N-word.

Sounds like he has a lot of potential as a rap "artist."
52 posted on 07/11/2010 4:33:27 PM PDT by fallujah-nuker (My vote made a difference. Because of my vote an extra ballot in had to be stuffed in King County.)
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To: trumandogz

I thought Obama was suppose to make racism fashionable? Love Mel Gibson and his movies....much support.


53 posted on 07/11/2010 4:33:37 PM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: trumandogz
One point: I don't remember the LA Times declaring Alec Baldwin's career over when he called his daughter a "pig" among other things on tape. Baldwin's career seems to be doing just fine.

Not to excuse a crazy movie star's ugly rants, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if there is a double standard at work here...

54 posted on 07/11/2010 4:33:38 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: trumandogz

No it does not..It does however speak of the *HUGE* hypocrisy in liberalism...

They are trying to *Break* Mel Gibson for his words, something they would *NEVER* do to a liberal...never...


55 posted on 07/11/2010 4:34:34 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: TaraP

The guy is bipolar.

Not many people have as much experience as I do, living with someone who has a severe form of the illness.

I can absolutely tell you, this is completely CLASSIC behavior for this illness. To a T. You could cut and paste Gibson’s picture in the dictionary under “bipolar”.

The problem is, in my situation we removed power from the bipolar individual because there was just too much risk of legal problems. Unfortunately, no one is able to tell Mel what to do.


56 posted on 07/11/2010 4:34:38 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: ronnie raygun

I’m disappointed in him, but who wouldn’t suffer if a significant other recorded a private argument?


57 posted on 07/11/2010 4:37:15 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: I still care

Well from my understanding he has a huge family 8 Kids and like 10 Siblings, I hope they can help him with his demons....


58 posted on 07/11/2010 4:37:15 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: I still care

While Mel may be bipolar, that does not excuse his actions.


59 posted on 07/11/2010 4:38:39 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Siena Dreaming

I’m not sure if Alec Baldwin has been in any big movies since his telephone rant to his daughter, but I do know that few here on FR defended Alec Baldwin for that incident.

However, there are plenty of people here that will defend Gibson for his Anti-Semitic, violent and racist rants.


60 posted on 07/11/2010 4:42:20 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
While Mel may be bipolar, that does not excuse his actions.

I don't think anyone here is arguing that his actions (actually...in this case words, no actions) were appropriate.

I think the argument is...will he never work in Hollywood again because very nasty things said in private were made public?

61 posted on 07/11/2010 4:44:43 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: TaraP
"They are trying to *Break* Mel Gibson for his words, something they would *NEVER* do to a liberal...never..."


62 posted on 07/11/2010 4:44:58 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: TaraP

A perfectly silly article.

Mel Gibson doesn’t need to work, but if he wants to, he will.

Since he can self-finance, who’s going to stop him?

Like the rest of Hollywood what he’d really need the most is a great script, not the approval of the LA Times.


63 posted on 07/11/2010 4:47:23 PM PDT by devere
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To: Siena Dreaming

“I think the argument is...will he never work in Hollywood again because very nasty things said in private were made public?”

I think it is these words coupled with his Anti-Semitic Rant a few years ago.

However, as far as I can tell, there is not law that has been passed that prohibits Mel from working in Hollywood.

Therefore, if you like, you can go out to Hollywood, open a studio, write a screenplay and direct your own movie staring Mel Gibson.


64 posted on 07/11/2010 4:48:24 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Deagle

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“Please... just who in Hollywood do you STILL admire? With their left wing attitudes, you probably can’t name one!”

There are a few Hollywood celebs who are Conservative:

John Voight
Clint Eastwood
Angie Harmon
Pat Sajak
Gary Sinise
Stephen Baldwin
Kelsey Grammer
Dennis Miller
Adam Sandler
Jessica Simpson
Freddie Prince Jr.
Sarah Michelle Gellar
Chuck Norris
Bruce Willis
Heather Locklear
Patricia Heaton
Rober Downey Jr.
Naomi Judd
Marie Osmond
Scott Baio
Jackie Mason
Trace Adkins
Rick Schroeder
Dr. Phill
Bo Derreck
‘The rock’
Cheryl Ladd
Kid rock
Ben Stein
Tom Selleck
Loretta Lynn
Dean Cain
Tony Danza
Cris Evert
Drew Carey
Silvester Stallone
Ted Nugent
Wayne Newton
Shirley Jones
Leanne Rymes
Janine Turner
Andy Garcia

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65 posted on 07/11/2010 4:51:01 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: TaraP

>>>...He needs to get himself right with G-D again and start over<<<<<

We can write God here. It is permitted. Be proud to print it GOD.

As for Mel Gibson,using the N word. Big deal

Senator Byrd used it and it never harmed him, but of course they were getting something out of him. A Democrat vote.

Mel Gibson is a great actor unlike Bruce Willis who smears fake blood on a T-shirt and goes around shouting Holly Holly.


66 posted on 07/11/2010 4:53:06 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: trumandogz
How does he square his outrageous personal failings with his past public professions of being devoutly Catholic?

This is the same man who made "The Passion of the Christ"?

He has enough money to retire quietly, I suppose. Personally, I would rather see him admits his many problems and work hard to fix them.

67 posted on 07/11/2010 4:53:17 PM PDT by PackerBoy (Just my opinion ....)
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To: devere

Well it’s not cool to be slinging racist and anti semitic comments, and Mel seems to get soused and has one heck of a temper. Sad that a handsome guy with a lot of talent and success isn’t a happy person.


68 posted on 07/11/2010 4:53:17 PM PDT by Williams
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To: trumandogz
If he is truly bipolar, I can tell you it's a true psychosis. Their cognitive brain shuts down. And the alcohol is self medicating to try and get their moods under control.

I've thought on this for years, believe me. It's hard to come to these conclusions. It's hard to believe someone can't help screaming racial obscenities. If he has true bipolar, he will have delusions and hallucinations that convince him of the rightness of his actions.

Does that mean he should have to compensate people for the rotten stuff he's put them though? We had to.

Bipolar and Schizophrenia are the two big psychotic illnesses. Believe me, bipolar makes you as crazy as schizophrenia does. That does not mean the diagnosis is not abused by people who don't have the real, flaming illness but use it as an excuse for total stupidity.

Real bipolars have people floating from the ceiling, angels and demons and whatever. We can't know how bad Mel is. But he behaves exactly like my family member, who used to have nazis and jews chasing him through the house.

69 posted on 07/11/2010 4:53:41 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: trumandogz
Baldwin recently made a big movie with Meryl Streep and is still successful on TV.

there are plenty of people here that will defend Gibson for his Anti-Semitic, violent and racist rants

Again, I don't think people defend those things. I think they are reacting against the attitude of the media in declaring him "over" because of things said in private. It's typical to do tabloid reporting, but prophesying his career to be dead might be more about "the Passion" than anything else.

70 posted on 07/11/2010 4:53:45 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: patriot08

Wow... Great list! Now just who in Hollywood is going to hire them now? Shame on you for exposing them!

Just kidding, but that was a very nice list - surprised that there are so many in Hollywood. Of course some of those may deney being conservative if asked on most TV shows...heh.


71 posted on 07/11/2010 4:55:18 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle
Gibson’s future will be over when his movies don’t make millions.

His movies haven't made millions for a number of years now.

72 posted on 07/11/2010 4:56:13 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: I still care
The guy is bipolar.

By his own admission, he has bipolar disorder. When he is not psychotic he can be brilliant and incredibly creative -- and this is not at all uncommon with bipolars.

As for "never working in Hollywood again" -- he probably has F-U type money -- he can direct and produce his own films for the rest of his life.

73 posted on 07/11/2010 4:57:28 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Based on your name, you must be a Skeet Ulrich fan.

Loved him in "Ride with the Devil".

74 posted on 07/11/2010 4:59:10 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Siena Dreaming

“I think they are reacting against the attitude of the media in declaring him “over” because of things said in private.”

Oh, I see, so you do not believe that the things that Alec Baldwin said in private should be used against him?


75 posted on 07/11/2010 4:59:26 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
Mel Gibson ranting about the mother of his child being raped by a bunch of “N!663rs”

Who raped her?

76 posted on 07/11/2010 4:59:36 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: taxtruth
More media trash from the LA Slimes trying to destroy a mans career.

Right. And the media also conspired to destroy Helen Thomas's career, too.

77 posted on 07/11/2010 5:00:43 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Reddy
Mel is white and a Christian. Let’s destroy him

If you heard or read what he said to his ex, you would question the latter. He may be Christian in the sense most Americans are Christian, but doesn't walk the walk. He is walking the other way. Regardless of his personal life, which seams to be a mess, most of his movies do what movies are supposed to do- be very entertaining. I will miss his work. Too Bad, Oh, too Bad! for his professional work and his personal life.

78 posted on 07/11/2010 5:02:08 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: brytlea

Smart post and I agree. Mel’s got problems like many Americans. Me included (only Mel’s got a billion times more money than I do). He needs to get him self sorted out and enjoy his remaining years on earth. Life’s too short to be creating that kind of turmoil.


79 posted on 07/11/2010 5:02:09 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: I still care

I have had friends and family that are bipolar and Schizophrenia and I understand what can happen during an episode.

However, they should never be excused for their actions are words.


80 posted on 07/11/2010 5:02:28 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
so you do not believe that the things that Alec Baldwin said in private should be used against him?

Just saying the MSM didn't declare his career over.

81 posted on 07/11/2010 5:02:33 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Non-Sequitur

Yes, and they will continue to do so if they are decent movies... These kind of interludes are great for those in Hollywood and followers, but mostly - who cares what these idiots do...


82 posted on 07/11/2010 5:02:37 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: PackerBoy

He has even shared that he has contemplated suicide on occasion, this is proably a medical issue and being in *Hollywood* as a practicing *Catholic* with bipolar is a deadly mix.


83 posted on 07/11/2010 5:02:55 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: Non-Sequitur
His movies haven't made millions for a number of years now

Actually, Gibson's "Edge of Darkness" made $79 million this year.

84 posted on 07/11/2010 5:03:26 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Eaker

Listen to the tape


85 posted on 07/11/2010 5:03:34 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Siena Dreaming
Actually, Gibson's "Edge of Darkness" made $79 million this year.

But cost $87 million to make.

86 posted on 07/11/2010 5:05:11 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Siena Dreaming

How is Michael Richard’s career doing these days?

Or is Michael Richards another Hollywood Conservative who was destroyed due to the words he used?


87 posted on 07/11/2010 5:05:52 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

So you don’t know?


88 posted on 07/11/2010 5:07:08 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: trumandogz
Michael Richard was never vilified in the press for weeks for making a film about Christ.

Many do forget that...but it did happen.

89 posted on 07/11/2010 5:08:21 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Non-Sequitur

Some say $60 M.


90 posted on 07/11/2010 5:10:01 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: trumandogz

Again..Is Mel Gibson a racist? a Anti-Semite? IMHO NO...I know plenty of good people who have said derogatory words in private... not because they hate the race, but because for many it’s people ridding themselves of frustration. I assume that is why the F-word is used in the heat of an argument....

Racists Anti-Semites and true Bigots are out there, when you apply those terms to anyone and everyone in what they say out of anger, drunkeness, and frustration the meanings become meaningless.....

You think Rev Wright or the Black Panthers or Islam sympathizers are villified, for what they say about the White Christian race? Of course not.. We have a President that makes excuses for the USA to the Muslim World...

Let’s get a grip now, or at least a reality check.


91 posted on 07/11/2010 5:12:13 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: Siena Dreaming

Just because Gibson produced Passion of the Christ does not give him a pass on his offensive actions since then.


92 posted on 07/11/2010 5:12:23 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: TaraP

It’s really sad to watch Gibson self-destruct. Whatever his problems are, I hope he finds a way through them.


93 posted on 07/11/2010 5:12:59 PM PDT by Left2Right ("Starve the Beast!")
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To: vetvetdoug
Gibson has not done much as an actor money wize since 2002. His last movie broke even on worldwide box office.

He made a mint on Passion, so he can probaly still produce a few movies on his own.

Gibson has charisma on screen and given the right storyline, he will still be a big star. IMO.

94 posted on 07/11/2010 5:14:19 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: TaraP

Sorry, I see little difference between the words of Rev Wright and the words of Mel Gibson.


95 posted on 07/11/2010 5:14:34 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: patriot08

Denzel Washington, he was even asked by Studie Exec’s to tone down the Bible stuff in the *Book of Eli* Denzel said he would not...


96 posted on 07/11/2010 5:14:46 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: trumandogz

Never fear, trumandogz is here ... to invariably and without fail argue any issue from the left.

I can’t figure out why the heck you’re on FR, other than being some sort of token like MurryMom.


97 posted on 07/11/2010 5:15:48 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Clintonfatigued
Mel Gibson has lost credibility with virtually everyone.

What's he need credibility for? He's a producer/director. He makes a good film, I'll buy it.

98 posted on 07/11/2010 5:16:05 PM PDT by gundog (Outrage is anger taken by surprise. Nothing these people do surprises me anymore.)
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To: trumandogz
does not give him a pass

Again...like I've said numerous times...very few are giving him a pass.

But for the media to declare his career over because of bad words said? Silly.

99 posted on 07/11/2010 5:16:16 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming
Gibson is also a sex addict.

Can you please define the term "sex addict"? and for that matter "sex" in the context of "sex addict"?

For example, is a sex addict in LA also necessarily a sex addict in (say) Augusta, Georgia? or Rochester, NY? Or vice versa? If so, why, and if not, why not, and what makes the LA social scene special-- if not sex?

I'm not sure what this has to do with racism, but these question may be asked.

:-)

100 posted on 07/11/2010 5:16:37 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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