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Mel Gibson's mainstream Hollywood career is over -- for real, this time
L.A Times ^ | July 9th, 2010

Posted on 07/11/2010 3:59:49 PM PDT by TaraP

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To: Abin Sur

You are sadly misinformed once again.

Discussing issues with you is like showing a chicken a card trick.


501 posted on 07/13/2010 5:57:25 AM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: Eaker
Here is a valid point, pedophiles love children.

Incorrect. Pedophiles do not by definition love children. Rather, they love to have sex with children.

You are sadly misinformed once again.

Are dictionaries sadly misinformed as well?

pe·do·phile

an adult who is sexually attracted to young children.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pedophile

Discussing issues with you is like showing a chicken a card trick.

Given that you've already admitted that when arguing you won't acknowledge the correct points of your opponent, it's not surprising that insults are the only tactic left in your playbook. Are you so emotionally invested in never admitting being incorrect that you are incapable of having a rational discussion?

502 posted on 07/13/2010 6:38:28 AM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: Abin Sur

Son, you talk a lot to say nothing. That is really a tiresome “quality” in a person.

If you had any experience in dealing with people you could resort to it and not have to depend on an incomplete dictionary definition.

As to admitting being wrong I am not one of those silly sallies who gives a crap about other peoples “feelings”. When you are wrong I will point it out. I damn sure will not admit I am wrong just to assuage your wee feelings.

Finally, if you think that pedophiles don’t like children you need to STFU on the issue and do some actual research to gain some experience. Some subjects are too important for you to simply talk out of your ass when discussing them.


503 posted on 07/13/2010 7:09:34 AM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: Twink

Yes, slavery was a mistake and it seems you are one of the few on this thread that acknowledge that fact.

And if as you imply that 400,000 American “white men” died fighting to abolish slavery, you must also believe that hundreds of thousands of white “American” men died fighting to preserve slavery.

So that argument, If valid, is a bit of a wash.

I’m not advocating reparations for those whose ancestors fell victim to American slavery as it would be impossible to determine the value of the work completed with interest and who exactly would receive that money.

Instead, we must never whitewash the evils of slavery and be specific and honest when teaching of American slavery.

And while America is a great country, we must recognize our nations past ills along with our past accomplishments to advance freedom.  


504 posted on 07/13/2010 5:19:05 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

>> He does not have a right to privacy, but the media does have the right to publish

“does have a right” ?

I don’t have a problem with the media exploiting private issues that involve criminal activity.

The point I’d like to make is that anger should not be deemed criminal based on it being highly offensive. The ‘line’ between inciting criminality and anger expressed in speech is anything but clear these days - at least from the perspective of the rancid political environment we’re in.

I’m not giving Gibson a pass for his verbal antics. And if the allegations of criminality prove to be true, he must be held accountable. This, however, is unrelated to the issue of society’s imperfect response to anger, and how that affects our Constitutional guarantees. We contribute to the process that rots our Liberties every time we agree with the control freaks that wish to regulate our speech and thoughts. This ‘cooperation’ often occurs whenever there are reports of bullying, antisemitism, Catholic bashing, racism, etc. - all morally unacceptable, but not necessarily criminal. This is of course about facilitating ‘speech rules’ that target the ambiguous, subjective nature of ‘hate speech’.


505 posted on 07/13/2010 7:12:07 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Eaker
I damn sure will not admit I am wrong just to assuage your wee feelings.

You should admit when you're wrong, not to assuage anyone's feelings, but rather to strengthen your overall argument. Here's a little advice for you: a debate is something like a tennis match. You don't have to win every point to be the overall victor. Mind you, I don't expect you to take this advice...it's becoming rapidly obvious that your self-admitted refusal to concede a point when you're incorrect is simply a defense mechanism for your (fragile?) ego. How disappointing.

Finally, if you think that pedophiles don’t like children you need to STFU

Didn't your mother teach you any manners? Sheesh, kids these days...

In any case, you didn't say that pedophiles like children, you said that they love children.

There's really no point in continuing this conversation, given your predilection for throwing out insults every time you're shown to be wrong, so if you'd like the last word feel free to vent. I do have one request, though; you have stated that pedophiles by definition love children, so please explain how the rape of a 10 year old by a pedophile is an act of love.

506 posted on 07/13/2010 9:34:59 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: Abin Sur

Simply because you were raised to be subservient doesn’t mean the rest of us were. Adults stand up for themselves rather than cower. Try it sometime.

Words like “defense mechanism” are the buzzwords of liberal idiots used to project their own short comings onto the strong. Agreeing you are wrong when you are not might make you feel good but it just makes you an idiot.

Like I said yesterday some topics are too important for the uninformed to be spouting off about when they are totally ignorant. Simply because you don’t know something doesn’t make it not so.

As to pedophiles, they like, love and obsess about children. They want to surround themselves with them. They think sex with them is natural and therefore not hurtful. I used this topic to make a point. IF you want to learn more about it as a tool to protect your children or grandchildren as we have buy a book. Ignorance certainly won’t protect the young and parsing words just makes you appear supportive of this perversity.


507 posted on 07/14/2010 5:11:42 AM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: trumandogz

“Yes, slavery was a mistake and it seems you are one of the few on this thread that acknowledge that fact.”

Nobody disputed that.
What was in dispute was you spitting on those who died to end it.


508 posted on 07/15/2010 3:52:09 PM PDT by Darksheare (I've been told that I drive like a cop. I don't know if that's a compliment or an insult.)
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To: Darksheare

“What was in dispute was you spitting on those who died to end it.”

I grew up in the Deep South and have great respect for the Union Troops who fought to end slavery. However, I am sometimes amazed at how many wish to honor those who fought to maintain slavery.


509 posted on 07/15/2010 4:49:49 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

That’s not what your post 155 says in this thread.
Your post spits on the sacrifices of those who died to end slavery.


510 posted on 07/15/2010 5:09:47 PM PDT by Darksheare (I've been told that I drive like a cop. I don't know if that's a compliment or an insult.)
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To: FrankR

“But, I like Mel, I like his movies; I still buy his movies. I’m not going to be judgemental on the “N” word until the black rappers stop using it, and until someone pounces on the Black Panthers for their racial epithets.

I’m tired of this one-way crap”

I agree, FrankR. The accolades given to KKK Byrd are another good example of rewriting history to suit one’s agenda. There is such feigned outrage among Libs on this issue. I hear the N word all the time, but it’s black on black, NOT whites trashing blacks. I do think that Mel is emotionally off the rails. I’d love for him to experience redemption. There’s a genius and goodness about him. Don’t know where it is right now.


511 posted on 07/15/2010 6:42:24 PM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: Darksheare

“Your post spits on the sacrifices of those who died to end slavery.”

Like I said, I have great respect for the Union Troops who fought to end slavery however, Jim Crow Laws which followed the Civil War took back much of that sacrifice.

Furthermore, I do not advocate monetary reparations but rather an acknowledgment of the evils of slavery, and a commitment to teach of those evils for the remainder of American history.

We Must Never Forget.


512 posted on 07/15/2010 10:02:36 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

Bullcrap.
You are a liar, as your post 155 proves.
You do not respect their sacrifices, otherwise you would NOT have posted #155.
As for the J.Crow laws.. look to the DEMS for those.
Quit blaming all of America.
And cease the incessant lies.


513 posted on 07/16/2010 10:54:51 AM PDT by Darksheare (I've been told that I drive like a cop. I don't know if that's a compliment or an insult.)
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To: Eaker

I would venture to guess he’s been here for a lot longer than that and under several other names. Like maybe non-sequitur and Dannan Whyte maybe.


514 posted on 01/02/2011 1:15:18 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: TaraP
I would just like to ask *Hollywood* why is Mel Gibson’s Career Over, but that Child Molestor Roman Polanski’s isn’t?

exactly! and this writer has the nerve to say that anyone with moral decency would not watch a Mel Gibson film? hypocrits!

515 posted on 01/02/2011 1:21:03 PM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: TaraP
What he says is largely true. Gibson has screwed his life and career up big time.

The blogger puts a little too much unction, and smug self-satisfaction into his comments, though, so there's a little bit of a reaction in favor of somebody who hasn't really earned much sympathy.

... But Gibson did take meetings and did land several roles, and as sad as it is that someone with all this experience could walk the world in his own bubble of hate, it's perhaps sadder that it took so many of us this long to realize what should have been clear all along.

"All along"? Since Mad Max and Gallipoli and The Year of Living Dangerously? The article does leave one wondering if Zeitchik would be more sympathetic to an actor who screwed up as badly as Mel did -- or worse, if that actor's religious or political views were different.

516 posted on 01/02/2011 1:40:05 PM PST by x
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To: trumandogz
I’m not quite sure America has paid for the “mistake” of slavery, ________________________

WTF does that mean? I assume you believe in reparations? Like these guys? Note poster on wall:

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Whoa, Nelly, are you getting your a$$ handed to you on this thread or what? You blew you cover on this thread big time. I see after this thread you slid back under the radar and pretended to be a conservative again. Too many smart freepers on this thread pal, they weren't buying what you were selling and Eaker tore you a new one. LMAO!

517 posted on 02/03/2012 7:21:34 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: Eaker

I see you noticed that too. 2 years later and he’s still defendiing him every chance he gets.


518 posted on 02/03/2012 7:30:37 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: wardaddy

LOL! Wonder what new name NS has now? He’s been zotted 4 times, that we know of.


519 posted on 02/03/2012 7:33:14 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: trumandogz
"Gibson had verbally abused his girlfriend Oksana Grigorieva"

His girlfriend? So he is arguing with his GIRLFRIEND but he is a racist? Something does not compute. Give'em hell Mel!

520 posted on 02/03/2012 7:33:49 PM PST by jpsb
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To: wardaddy

you should be warned ...he loathes everything Dixie that ain’t black

BINGO!


521 posted on 02/03/2012 7:36:55 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: DJ MacWoW

The idea is to be a long-lived liberal troll.
______________________
It’s working and he’s doing a good job of flying below the radar and throwing bones to the mods every once in a while but all one has to do is search his past posts and it’s obvious he’s a liberal concern troll.


522 posted on 02/03/2012 7:47:21 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: trumandogz

yea that is right and I know you are reading this under a different name now because you got banned and called for the troll and no life pathetic idiot you are.

You spent your life trolling this site and others I bet for what ? How much was you paid or are you that lonely you did it?

Slavery,. yea lets not forget it much like who sold blacks to the white man, or maybe the black slave owners who seem to have been forgotten

So while we are on the subject look up Anthony Jonhson, a slave owner who got slavery legal in VA, oh he was black , yep don;t forget that

What’;s that, you have never been told the truth about slavery or who owner who in your liberal school.

well look up black slave owners, look up other names , look up who sold them and why, look up who did not have slaves and who did.


523 posted on 02/03/2012 9:16:46 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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