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Governors Voice Grave Concerns on Immigration (Dems in Panic Over Obama's War on Arizona)
The New York Times ^ | Sunday, July 11, 2010 | Abby Goodnough

Posted on 07/11/2010 6:54:52 PM PDT by kristinn

BOSTON — In a private meeting with White House officials this weekend, Democratic governors voiced deep anxiety about the Obama administration’s suit against Arizona’s new immigration law, worrying that it could cost a vulnerable Democratic Party in the fall elections.

While the weak economy dominated the official agenda at the summer meeting here of the National Governors Association, concern over immigration policy pervaded the closed-door session between Democratic governors and White House officials and simmered throughout the three-day event.

At the Democrats’ meeting on Saturday, some governors bemoaned the timing of the Justice Department lawsuit, according to two governors who spoke anonymously because the discussion was private.

“Universally the governors are saying, ‘We’ve got to talk about jobs,’ ” Gov. Phil Bredesen of Tennessee, a Democrat, said in an interview. “And all of a sudden we have immigration going on.”

He added, “It is such a toxic subject, such an important time for Democrats.”

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“I might have chosen both a different tack and a different time,” said Gov. Bill Ritter Jr. of Colorado, a Democrat who was facing a tough fight for re-election and pulled out of the race earlier this year. “This is an issue that divides us politically, and I’m hopeful that their strategy doesn’t do that in a way that makes it more difficult for candidates to get elected, particularly in the West.”

SNIP

Immigration was not the only topic at the Saturday meeting between Democratic governors and two White House officials — Patrick Gaspard, Mr. Obama’s political director, and Cecilia Munoz, director of intergovernmental affairs. But several governors, including Christine Gregoire of Washington, said it was a particularly heated issue.

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1 posted on 07/11/2010 6:54:54 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

These Dems and the Dem Party enable and collaborate with the Saudi agent.


2 posted on 07/11/2010 6:56:35 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: diamond6

he he


3 posted on 07/11/2010 6:56:45 PM PDT by diamond6 (Pray the Rosary to defeat communism and Obamacare!!)
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To: kristinn

The D-Govs should have been concerned that their party was taken over by lefty socialist/progressives with a red diaper baby as the party leader.

Little late now.


4 posted on 07/11/2010 6:57:06 PM PDT by delapaz
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To: kristinn

Zero’s war on Arizona is a national disgrace. The Fuhrer will be dragging the RATs down the sewer with him. The American people are getting madder by the hour.


5 posted on 07/11/2010 6:57:23 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Take back our country on November 2, 2010.)
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To: kristinn

Cry me a river ...dems...not you kristinn. :)


6 posted on 07/11/2010 6:57:56 PM PDT by cubreporter ( Trust Rush and you won't go wrong.)
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To: kristinn
"Obama's War on Arizona"

Actually it's just a battle in Zer0's War against America.

7 posted on 07/11/2010 6:58:54 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: kristinn
...it's Obama's war on America....not just AZ,it may look like that now,only because someone had the spine to stand up to him...when they lose this, then the OTHERS MUST TAKE A STAND...
8 posted on 07/11/2010 7:01:19 PM PDT by Doogle (IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN....PLEASE donate, because it's the RIGHT thing to do)
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To: kristinn

Tough luck Democrats. You put all of your faith on this know-nothing who only cares about his own legacy. He’ll bring down the whole Democrat party before he admits he made a mistake.


9 posted on 07/11/2010 7:03:27 PM PDT by chpmass
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To: kristinn
Look who is running the WH. Two far far left wing Marxists.
Read up on Munoz and Gespard and you will be packing your families bags for Australia .

The entire Obama team is infested by Marxists or Black Muslims / Black Revolutionaries Marxists.

My brother in law had the misfortune to have to meet the Marxists back ion the spring. He warned us all at a family gathering that the Marxist was one the very creepy people surrounded by an black staff ! He thought they were all
Black Muslims.

We have dedicated American hater Marxists running the WH !

Thanks to all the Freepers who promoted the grand idea to sit out the Nov 2008 election.

10 posted on 07/11/2010 7:09:23 PM PDT by ncalburt (e)
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To: kristinn
I've said before and this further proves that this immigration battle isn't to stoke the base for this November but rather to keep importing voters for future Novembers.
11 posted on 07/11/2010 7:10:00 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: kristinn
‘We’ve got to talk about jobs,' [said] Gov. Phil Bredesen of Tennessee, a Democrat.

That's all Democrats do...just yak, yak, yak and pass America-killing, freedom-killing and jobs-killing laws. They always confuse talking with doing constructive things that help our nation. What a loser.

12 posted on 07/11/2010 7:11:44 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: kristinn
This article is an interesting study in political calculus.

I suppose the Obama administration's calculus would have been something along the lines of tapping into the usual middle/left fear of Republicans -- something that Democrats have used to great effect over the past 30 years or so. And possibly they figured their black president could add an extra level of fear.

I suspect that particular well has pretty well been tapped out; and I'm pretty sure the beltway types have no clear sense of the real concerns among the public (especially in the west) about illegal immigration. Add to that the Obama teams really astonishing tin ear, and you've got trouble.

Even if ideas for handling it are different; even if one is very concerned about the possibility of discrimination and such ... the lawsuit finds itself opposed to the very real concerns about immigration.

IMO, although the basis of the suit (federal vs. state jurisdiction) is sound, the governors have sensed that it is also a campaign ploy -- and they're probably right. And if so, and if it's more widely seen as that, Obama's tin ear will turn out to be very costly.

13 posted on 07/11/2010 7:11:48 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: kristinn
"Governors Voice Grave Concerns on Immigration (Dems in Panic Over Obama's War on Arizona)"

It must suck to have a kamikaze leading your party.

14 posted on 07/11/2010 7:12:09 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: kristinn

The Obamanation and the leadership of the Democratic party are focusing on the immigration issue because they honestly think that it will be a winning issue.

Nothing more.

I think that it will be a losing issue for them, but we’ll know for sure come November.


15 posted on 07/11/2010 7:15:26 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: kristinn
LOL, the pied piper
16 posted on 07/11/2010 7:15:28 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: kristinn

bump for later


17 posted on 07/11/2010 7:17:45 PM PDT by GOPJ (When it's Voter intimidation, the NAACP and the White Citizens Council are brothers under the skin.)
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To: kristinn

Every rat governor is promoting sanctuary policies. They are fully in agreement with our dear leader on his defacto amnesty policy. They just do not like the light burning on their policies. They prefer stealth sanctuary policies.


18 posted on 07/11/2010 7:21:42 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: kristinn

Rather than ferreting out corruption and organized crime, the mixed up Eric Holder is attacking states. Wouldn’t be surprised if he resigns soon to “spend more time with his family.” He just isn’t up to the job.


19 posted on 07/11/2010 7:22:23 PM PDT by purplelobster
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To: kristinn

SueAz2


20 posted on 07/11/2010 7:24:17 PM PDT by FrankR ( If we don't stand up to tyranny, the tyrants win, and we're enslaved.)
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To: kristinn

The heart of the matter is that they are concerned with timing and appearances.

If they had been concerned with substance Barry O’Bozo would still be making his living skimming federal race based welfare programs at the street level in Chicago.


21 posted on 07/11/2010 7:25:23 PM PDT by Iron Munro (You can't kill the beast while sucking at its teat - Claire Wolfe)
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To: Flag_This

“It must suck to have a kamikaze leading your party.”

There’s a line in the article that says that the law “makes it a crime to be an illegal immigrant there.” Barry and Eric Holder are taking exception to that. These buffoons are practically sinking the Dems intentionally.


22 posted on 07/11/2010 7:28:57 PM PDT by purplelobster
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To: kristinn

Patrick Gaspard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Gaspard


23 posted on 07/11/2010 7:38:02 PM PDT by BamaBlue
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To: kristinn

Do these Goverors think that Obama cares about them or anything other than himself and his own agenda?


24 posted on 07/11/2010 7:40:06 PM PDT by djpg
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To: kristinn

Cecilia Munoz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecilia_Mu%C3%B1oz


25 posted on 07/11/2010 7:40:58 PM PDT by BamaBlue
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To: kristinn

Now they are probably plotting strategy on how to steal the elections as they KNOW they can’t get reelected on their merits/platform.


26 posted on 07/11/2010 7:48:26 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (I Don't Want Hussein to Kick Ass. I WANT HIM TO GET OFF HIS ASS!!!!)
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To: kristinn

27 posted on 07/11/2010 7:49:07 PM PDT by februus
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To: BamaBlue

Reading these resumes freaked me out.
Dedicated Marxist America Haters and Traitors


28 posted on 07/11/2010 8:01:20 PM PDT by ncalburt (e)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!

Well, he has said he believes the country is moving in the right direction. Most folks are just too naive to realize he means precisely that...


29 posted on 07/11/2010 8:06:16 PM PDT by HiJinx (I can see November from the front porch - and Mexico from the back.)
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To: kristinn

Here’s a clue people. You do NOT regularize millions of illegal workers when you have 9% plus unemployment. How stupid are these dems anyway?


30 posted on 07/11/2010 8:20:02 PM PDT by McGavin999 (I'm sorry, your race card is overdrawn and no further charges can be accepted)
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To: McGavin999
In case anyone is confused about the ultimate goals of the CPUSA, they have been kind enough to post online their “Program Of The Communist Party USA.”

Maybe we should offer a $1,000,000 prize to anyone who can find one scintilla of difference between the CPUSA and the Democrats platform.

The "Congressional Progressive Caucus" must be targeted and destroyed as well their allies in the press and academia.

No holds barred, take no prisoners, name names and make these red bastards pay dearly for the consequences of nearly one hundred years of insidious and unrelenting attacks on capitalism and judeo-christian morality.

CPUSA And Obama Platforms Are Identical

Forget for the moment about Bill Ayers and Obama’s other Communist friends and mentors of the distant past.

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Working people want bold new policies to end war restore democratic traditions and create green living wage jobs, affordable housing, healthcare and quality education for everyone.

Republican John McCain, the candidate of the military industrial complex, will continue the Bush agenda. “100 years” in Iraq, Social Security privatization, and tax cuts for the rich. His Republican partners in Congress have blocked, stalled or gutted every bill that benefits working people since they lost majority control in 2006.

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31 posted on 07/11/2010 8:24:09 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: kristinn
But several governors, including Christine Gregoire of Washington, said it was a particularly heated issue.

Of course it's a heated issue, and hopefully it'll become a lot more heated. Bush already put the nation through this contentious issue twice, trying to force something on the American people that 70%+ don't want. Now here is Obama with the same old crap and people are fed up with it.

But will voters really show what they think of this issue at the polls this year? With very few exceptions, they didn't after the 2006 amnesty push, and they didn't after the 2007 amnesty push. Amnesty pushers need to pay for it with a loss of their seats in Congress, or they'll never stop bringing this up, and they'll never insist that immigration laws be enforced.

32 posted on 07/11/2010 8:28:15 PM PDT by Will88
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To: kristinn
bambi looking ....well..like a tyrant
on drudge
although I am partial to this pic

above the headline:
Obama spokesman: Dems could lose House...
33 posted on 07/11/2010 8:36:25 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: kristinn

If Obama’s agenda remains full speed ahead without attenuation by D-Govs et al this should make for a blood bath of an election this fall!


34 posted on 07/11/2010 8:45:11 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Saw where 95% of Americans voted that they support Arizona’s new immigration law...over 3 million votes! It was a MSNBC/U.S. News and World Reports poll.


35 posted on 07/11/2010 9:04:31 PM PDT by jch10 (Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war...)
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To: kristinn

You Dems need to be out there reminding everyone who took over healthcare.

You need to be reminding everyone who is raising taxes.

You need to be reminding everyone who is spending like drunken sailors.

You need to be touting a plan for Amnesty.

That’s the only way you’ll win in 2010. :)


36 posted on 07/11/2010 9:04:50 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: kristinn
“I might have chosen both a different tack and a different time,” said Gov. Bill Ritter Jr. of Colorado, a Democrat...

Different time? Your boss thinks anytime's the right time to piss on America, Bill.



37 posted on 07/11/2010 9:06:29 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

awesome, may I steal to post on my FB page??


38 posted on 07/11/2010 9:08:37 PM PDT by DrewsMum (Somebody please put the Constitution on his teleprompter....)
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To: McGavin999

And when the real unemployment figure is closer to 18%, it makes even less sense.


39 posted on 07/11/2010 9:09:53 PM PDT by packrat35 (Planned Parenthood... killing more blacks than the Ku Klux Klan could have ever dreamed of.)
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To: DrewsMum
awesome, may I steal to post on my FB page?

You can't steal something that is freely given. Please spread it far and wide.

40 posted on 07/11/2010 9:14:42 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ncalburt
"Freepers who promoted the grand idea to sit out the Nov 2008 election"

Revolutionaries in name only.


41 posted on 07/11/2010 9:15:20 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: kristinn

As my Mom used to say “if you sleep with the dogs, don’t be suprised if you wake up with fleas”.


42 posted on 07/11/2010 9:17:22 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: ncalburt
Thanks to all the Freepers who promoted the grand idea to sit out the Nov 2008 election.

Produce proof that any conservatives, let alone conservative FReepers(there are many trolls and left wingers posing as FReepers)sat at home during the elections. Bozo won through a combination of the MSM's lies, voter fraud and stupid voters.

43 posted on 07/11/2010 9:23:57 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59
"Bozo won through a combination of the MSM's lies, voter fraud and stupid voters."

And by having a GOP candidate, who agreed with Obozo on major fundamental issues, so that GOP candidate did not attack Obozo or inform the American People of the dangers of an Obozo presidency. Indeed, McCain went out of his way and said 'we have nothing to fear from President Obozo'. Yup, let's have a Big Tent and nominate 'moderates'. It works so well.

44 posted on 07/11/2010 9:46:32 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: delapaz; All
The D-Govs should have been concerned that their party was taken over by lefty socialist/progressives with a red diaper baby as the party leader.

2010 is looking good for our team. But, will we be able to defeat the Dems in 2012 if they have 99 percent of the Black vote and 80 percent of the Latino vote locked up? Wed be starting out with a 25 percent disadvantage.
Somebody help me out here.

45 posted on 07/11/2010 10:11:07 PM PDT by no dems (Palin/Jindal in 2012 or Jindal/Christie in 2012. Either is fine with me.)
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To: chpmass; All
He’ll bring down the whole Democrat party before he admits he made a mistake.
What do you think are the chances that Hillary will challenge him for the Dem nomination in 2012?
46 posted on 07/11/2010 10:13:37 PM PDT by no dems (Palin/Jindal in 2012 or Jindal/Christie in 2012. Either is fine with me.)
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To: no dems

I think the chances are getting better every day that Hillary (or another Democrat) will challenge him. National Democrats will wait until after the midterms to start to disagree publicly with his agenda. Right now, they need to appear united for the midterms to slow the bloodbath.


47 posted on 07/11/2010 10:23:11 PM PDT by chpmass
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To: Paladin2

Here here Mr. O Bummer.... get ready for AMERICAS WAR on U!


48 posted on 07/11/2010 10:40:54 PM PDT by Republic Rocker
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To: chpmass

soon there will be a flood of illegal Muslim immigrants just like in europe


49 posted on 07/11/2010 10:43:42 PM PDT by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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To: KTM rider

Europe’s flood of Muslims comes from its historical relationship with the Muslim world (Algeria once being part of France, the Muslim historical “claim” to Spain, and the massive influx of Turkish workers in Germany, and Pakistanis from former British India in the UK). Then, with the EU, moving from one country in Europe to another is practically like going between states in the USA. Fortunately, the US is further away and does not have the historical relationship nor ties with the Muslim world. Unfortunately, however, we have a porous border with no political resolve to do anything.

So yes, it could become a real problem, especially as ethnic Muslim enclaves start to form in random areas of the USA (much like how the Muslim communities in Europe initially began to form).


50 posted on 07/12/2010 2:06:55 AM PDT by chpmass
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