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Who is John Locke?
Townhall.com ^ | July 12, 2010 | Joseph C. Phillips

Posted on 07/12/2010 11:59:39 AM PDT by Kaslin

I am willing to wager my house that not one of my son’s seventh-grade classmates could identify John Locke in a photo. I am then willing to let that wager ride on another gamble that less than one percent of the seventh or eighth-graders in the Los Angeles Unified School District would be able to identify Locke in a photo array of historical figures. Double or nothing that not only would they not know who he is, but they would also have no idea of why he is important. I would then bet my entire stack of chips that a substantially higher number of middle-school students could identify Karl Marx. I anticipate being a very wealthy man.

This venture came to my mind following an end of the year visit to my son’s middle-school.

My wife and I attended a parents’ night at our son’s school. As we entered his English classroom, I noticed that the walls of the classroom were covered with photos of Karl Marx, Joseph Stalin, and Vladimir Lenin. The eighth-grade students had been studying George Orwell’s “Animal Farm.” On every wall was a hand-made poster featuring a photo of Karl Marx, some biographical information, along with some pithy bit of wisdom attributed to him. As we left the room, I whispered to my son, “Tell your teacher that your father wants to know when she will teach the work of John Locke.” My son responded, “Who is John Locke?”

Written by George Orwell in 1945, “Animal Farm” is the allegorical tale of the wickedness and terror of Stalinist Russia. Significantly, the book is not a condemnation of Marxism. Rather it is a cautionary tale about Stalinism. “Animal Farm” is really a commentary on how Russian apathy and political corruption derailed the Marxist utopia. It’s also a rather cynical tale of the inevitability of totalitarianism.

Orwell’s novel also happens to be a fine piece of literature and one that I believe has a proper place in our children’s literary curriculum.

But was the problem with Stalinism only that it corrupted the Marxist ideal? Is totalitarianism the natural end of all forms of government, or are men capable of ruling themselves? Without the foundation of Locke, do American children have the philosophical foundation necessary to understand what is truly evil about Stalin and Marx and conversely, what is good and unique about America? I am concerned when young students can’t identify the source of the ideas upon which their nation was founded, but can easily identify men whose political beliefs are in direct opposition to those ideas.

Locke was a 17th century physician and philosopher and is also known as the father of empiricism—the theory that knowledge is gained through evidence acquired through experience. Locke developed his ideas in his “Essay Concerning Human Understanding.” However, it is the publication of two books--“The First Treatise on Government,” and “The Second Treatise on Government,”--that makes Locke important to the study of political philosophy in general and the American founding in particular. In these great works, Locke refutes the divine right of kings and sets forth the nature of legitimate civil government, based on (what was at the time) the radical idea of natural rights and the social compact. It was the revolutionary ideas of natural rights and government limited to the occupation of securing those rights that influenced America’s founding fathers. Locke is quoted and paraphrased throughout much of America’s founding documents.

Over the years, there has been increasing pressure on America’s public schools to increase the level of math and English education. There has also been a corresponding decrease in the emphasis on teaching American history and civics. For instance, here in California, entrance requirements into the public university system call for only two years of history and government, as opposed to four in English and math.

But civic education is at least as important.

According to the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, civic knowledge not only “exerts a broader and more diverse influence on the American mind, but it also “increases a person’s regard for America’s ideals and free institutions.” In other words, the health of our republic depends on a citizenry educated in the history and source of its political ideals and the institutions those ideals produced. Certainly, that is as important as geometry. And if students must study literature, which they certainly should, why not read works that also have the benefit of teaching the source of the ideas of the American Revolution?

Between Karl Marx and John Locke, who is more important to our national political identity? So why are our children hanging posters of Marx on their classroom walls instead of Locke? I am not claiming that there is a Marxist conspiracy to indoctrinate our children. However, I do know that if we continue to neglect educating our children about the men on whose ideas this nation was built, this nation will not stand. The borders may remain the same, but the character of this nation will be lost forever.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: education; johnlocke; liberalfascism; liberals; marxism; publiceducation; publicschools

1 posted on 07/12/2010 11:59:42 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
I am willing to wager my house that not one of my son’s seventh-grade classmates could identify John Locke in a photo.

I would bet that more than one would identify this:

2 posted on 07/12/2010 12:03:49 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Kaslin
I am willing to wager my house that not one of my son’s seventh-grade classmates could identify John Locke in a photo.

I would bet that more than one would identify this:

3 posted on 07/12/2010 12:04:06 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Kaslin

I’m willing to wager that you wouldn’t be able to show _anybody_ a photo of John Locke ;-)


4 posted on 07/12/2010 12:04:40 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: glorgau

Dude!

5 posted on 07/12/2010 12:09:31 PM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: Kaslin

Recognizing an historical figure’s picture is important... why? In case I run into them the street?

I could recognize John Locke by his philosophy... that seems appropriate to me.


6 posted on 07/12/2010 12:09:34 PM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: Kaslin

” The borders may remain the same, but the character of this nation will be lost forever. “

I’m afraid that ship may have already sailed - and the Bon Voyage party was held in November, 2008...


7 posted on 07/12/2010 12:09:50 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Kaslin
If there were an existing photo of John Locke that would indeed be quite remarkable.

This criterion is ridiculous, anyway.

I would not be able to pick Locke out of a lineup of bewigged, hawknosed Restoration personages. But I have read his Essay and his Treatises.

8 posted on 07/12/2010 12:11:18 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Kaslin
According to the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, civic knowledge not only “exerts a broader and more diverse influence on the American mind, but it also “increases a person’s regard for America’s ideals and free institutions.”

Well you have it right there...this is why civics isn't taught in schools run by liberals.

9 posted on 07/12/2010 12:19:40 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to abdicate control of it to the government)
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To: wideawake

I have no idea what Locke or Orwell look like, but I am intimately acquainted with their work. Marx I wouldn’t know (but would shoot at)on sight, but Lenin, Stalin, etc., are well photographed figures of the last century. Of the latter two, I’d wager more people know what they look like than know what they did or said.


10 posted on 07/12/2010 12:20:37 PM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Why After he died and his body was brought back to the island MIB took him over and he began to gather "recruits". Everybody knows that!
11 posted on 07/12/2010 12:20:43 PM PDT by Babashane
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To: Kaslin

You talking about the guy on Lost?


12 posted on 07/12/2010 12:21:18 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: econjack
Hey, that's Adrian Brody
13 posted on 07/12/2010 12:21:59 PM PDT by doubled (The essence of bigotry is refusing to others the rights that you demand for yourself - Thomas Sowell)
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To: Kaslin
It was the revolutionary ideas of natural rights and government limited to the occupation of securing those rights that influenced America’s founding fathers. Locke is quoted and paraphrased throughout much of America’s founding documents.

Yes, our Declaration posited that governments exist to secure our Natural Rights. The Constitution put Locke and his philosophical predecessors into practice.

Increasing ignorance of the fact that there is higher law than government is the primary cause of our rapid descent into tyranny.

14 posted on 07/12/2010 12:22:23 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Tyrants should fear for their personal safety.)
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To: Kaslin
Ha-ha! Trick question!! There were no photographs in the 17th century! But, I bet they couldn't identify a line drawing of Locke, either.
15 posted on 07/12/2010 12:23:04 PM PDT by MaggieCarta (I'm never fully dressed without a snark.)
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To: Spok

Unfortunately, he also owned an English slaver company and also used a definition of property that was later used to justify native american expulsions. That is why I bet he is not quoted more. Have to take the good with the bad, like with Jefferson, etc.


16 posted on 07/12/2010 12:23:39 PM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: Babashane

btw there was suppose to be a ~g~ in arrows after that statement hinting that I was teasing. It didn’t show up though lol


17 posted on 07/12/2010 12:23:46 PM PDT by Babashane
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To: Izzy Dunne

Even though I knew the author wanted the 17th century philospher, my first thought was to the John Locke of your post.


18 posted on 07/12/2010 12:26:22 PM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about The Stainless Banner - a free e-zine dedicated to the armies of the Confederacy.)
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To: Kaslin
Brother-in-law of Fred Keyes....

Get it???

"Locke and Keyes"????

Ooooo, I kill me!

19 posted on 07/12/2010 12:26:24 PM PDT by Logic n' Reason ("Buzzard's gotta eat; same as worms.")
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To: Spok; wideawake

The entire notion of putting Marx on the same moral level with mass murderers like Stalin and Mao is absurd. It’s in the same vein as people who group Nietzche and Hitler.


20 posted on 07/12/2010 12:28:54 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Kaslin

The Educational Establishment needs a healthy Stalinesque purge of all left-wing idiots.


21 posted on 07/12/2010 12:30:03 PM PDT by ZULU
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To: Kaslin


Appeal

"The old question will be asked in this matter of prerogative, But who shall be judge when this power is made a right use of ? 1 answer: between an executive power in being, with such a prerogative, and a legislative that depends upon his will for their convening, there can be no judge on earth; as there can be none between the legislative and the people, should either the executive, or the legislative, when they have got the power in their hands, design, or go about to enslave or destroy them. The people have no other remedy in this, as in all other cases where they have no judge on earth, but to appeal to heaven."
22 posted on 07/12/2010 12:32:05 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (Will work for ammo)
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To: PowderMonkey

He’s the guy Thomas Jefferson “borrowed” from.


23 posted on 07/12/2010 12:44:25 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Kaslin

You gotta be kidding me! How could anybody miss that shaznolla on Locke. But I agree with you. I’d bet that 90 percent of American adults wouldn’t recognize him or even know that part of our own founding documents were based on what John Locke had to say. And one of my favorites....All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. It may be getting to that time.


24 posted on 07/12/2010 12:52:30 PM PDT by navyblue (<u>)
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To: Kaslin
Who is John Locke?

A guy grossly misunderstood even by a lot of conservatives and libertarians.

25 posted on 07/12/2010 12:53:17 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The success of Darwinism was accompanied by a decline in scientific integrity. - Dr. Wm R. Thompson)
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To: highlander_UW

ISI studies have shown for decades now that civic knowledge decreases with the ‘quality’ of the school. IE, Harvard, Yale, score the worst. Poduk State U, score highest.


26 posted on 07/12/2010 12:59:03 PM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: Kaslin
Who is John Locke?

My cousin!

Seriously. My g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-grandmother was Edith Locke, cousin to John Locke. Yes, THE John Locke. She married John Macomber of Bridport, Dorset in 1607.

27 posted on 07/12/2010 1:07:07 PM PDT by jim macomber (Author: "Bargained for Exchange", "Art & Part", "A Grave Breach" http://www.jamesmacomber.com)
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To: Kaslin
>As we left the room, I whispered to my son, “Tell your teacher that your father wants to know when she will teach the work of John Locke.”

Interesting essay, but why did the father whisper?

And why in the world did he leave it up to his son to ask the question?

28 posted on 07/12/2010 1:13:13 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Borges
The entire notion of putting Marx on the same moral level with mass murderers like Stalin and Mao is absurd.

Marx definitely endorsed political violence, though nothing in his writings advocates Mao-scale slaughter.

Marx did countenance killing people who disagreed with him, though he would have explained this as an undesirable but unavoidable historical inevitability.

It's not the same thing, but Marx was no innocent either.

29 posted on 07/12/2010 1:16:45 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: navyblue
Edmund Burke was the one who originally said that quote. You are getting your English* political philosophers confused there...

*Yes I know Burke was born on Dublin, but he considered himself to be an Englishmen, as did most Anglo-Irishmen of his generation...

30 posted on 07/12/2010 1:17:43 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: wideawake

Yes, he said that violence was inevitable and was going to happen anyway. The dirty little secret about Marx is that he never described how an actual state would function. That was filled in by Soviet functionaries. He merely analyzed socio-economic history and drew the conclusion that a labor/capitalist conflagration was unavoidable. He underestimated just how big a piece of the pie there would be for labor in an advanced capitalist soceity.


31 posted on 07/12/2010 1:44:39 PM PDT by Borges
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To: econjack

That’s a painting, not a photo! ;-)


32 posted on 07/12/2010 2:32:08 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: wideawake

The teacher had pictures of the “enlightened” few but did not have anything associated with John Locke. If John Locke was a taught subject, then one would imagine a picture/drawing/painting of him would be hung in the classroom.

The point being, no picture, no student recognition, no instruction as to who he was and what he gave to history/this nation.


33 posted on 07/12/2010 2:42:09 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Kaslin

John Knox too!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Knox


34 posted on 07/12/2010 4:16:24 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
"You are getting your English* political philosophers confused there... "

Yep, you're right. You got me on that one.

35 posted on 07/15/2010 5:03:52 PM PDT by navyblue (<u>)
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