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Stan Cox Wants to Ban Air Conditioning
Associated Content ^ | July 12th, 2010 | Mark R. Whittington

Posted on 07/12/2010 1:25:38 PM PDT by Marcus

Proving that there is no folly fallacious enough that it can't be written down, both in a book and in an oped in the Washington Post, Stan Cox, an agricultural scientist, has proposed to ban or greatly restrict air conditioning.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: airconditioning; antiamericanism; envirowhackos; globalwarming; greenieweenies; greens; hvac; nannystate; stancox; standardofliving; summer
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1 posted on 07/12/2010 1:25:40 PM PDT by Marcus
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To: Marcus

Just the thing Obama needs to finish off Las Vegas.


2 posted on 07/12/2010 1:27:26 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Marcus

You would be dead meat, Stan.


3 posted on 07/12/2010 1:29:18 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Marcus

I think he should go first, and let the rest of us know how it works out.


4 posted on 07/12/2010 1:29:34 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Marcus

Hey Stan, you ignorant moron...why don’t you come and spend a few months here in Arizona, where the temps can get as hot as 120° or more. Let’s see how you handle the ‘dry heat’ without any or limited air conditioning.

You bafoon....you think we are oppressed by chilled air. That’s funny.


5 posted on 07/12/2010 1:30:50 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (I'll just say the 2nd amendment to the Constitution is there for a reason!)
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To: Marcus

What a ridiculous waste of time. Idiot.


6 posted on 07/12/2010 1:31:46 PM PDT by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated public is the biggest threat to our democracy)
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To: Marcus

Would be wonderful in conjunction with just using one square of toilet paper.


7 posted on 07/12/2010 1:32:04 PM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: La Lydia
I think he should go first, and let the rest of us know how it works out.

Sorry, fellow prole, but the rules do not apply to the vanguards of the Revolution - they need that a/c in order to lead us to the shining Socialist future, comrade.
8 posted on 07/12/2010 1:32:35 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Marcus

“Stan, an agricultural scientist...”

In other words, he grows and smokes pot.

Ban air conditioners? I say we ban liberals.


9 posted on 07/12/2010 1:33:24 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The rallying cry of American patriots.....REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!)
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To: Marcus

Funny how the libs are always quick to tell you what YOU should do, but the rules don’t apply to THEM.


10 posted on 07/12/2010 1:33:50 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (The usurper 0bama regime is a "Clear and Present Danger" to AMERICA! - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Lucky9teen

The area was populated before air-conditioning and people did alright. Stan is a moron, but AC is a luxury, not a necessity.


11 posted on 07/12/2010 1:34:11 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Argus

Invest in ice.


12 posted on 07/12/2010 1:35:03 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: Argus
Just the thing Obama needs to finish off Las Vegas.

Nearly any city in the summertime. Maybe people should go back to sleeping on rooftops and fire escapes.

The death rate in places like NYC would be horrendous.

13 posted on 07/12/2010 1:36:41 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Marcus

If anybody doesn’t believe they want us all to live in the 18th century and eat tofu and bean sprouts, you are a fool................


14 posted on 07/12/2010 1:36:54 PM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. He's just some guy in the neighborhood.............)
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To: Melas

In Florida, it’s a necessity.................


15 posted on 07/12/2010 1:37:54 PM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. He's just some guy in the neighborhood.............)
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To: Marcus

The Left has already said this. Barrack Hussein Obama M.M.M. said that we can’t just set our indoor temperatures at whatever we’d like.

The American standard of living is too high. We need to let our old people die in the summertime like they do in wise old France.


16 posted on 07/12/2010 1:38:55 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: Marcus

(New Lennox unit)

“The unit comes with a 10-Year Limited Warranty on compressor and all remaining covered components, excludes solar panel.

Since Lennox states that there is only 8% savings in electricity usage, the XP unit is going to cost somewhere in the range of $7500-$12,000 for a 3-ton system, installed. Once you add in the extra costs of the solar assist panel and installation, you can spend an extra $2500-$5000 on the total job.”

http://factoidz.com/product-review-of-lennox-solar-air-conditioner/

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(Not on the market yet)


18 posted on 07/12/2010 1:39:36 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: Red Badger; decimon

A group capable of banning light bulbs seems perfectly capable of doing this. Especially considering most of the Sunbelt votes Republican.


19 posted on 07/12/2010 1:39:39 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Melas

Indoor toilets are also not a necessity.


20 posted on 07/12/2010 1:39:53 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: Lucky9teen

I heard about this book and one of this little dictators wanna be reason is to force people to move back north thinking living in the north would convert conservatives to liberals.


21 posted on 07/12/2010 1:40:08 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: Marcus
"Air conditioning, it seems, causes everything from global warming to obesity to sexual dysfunction to capitalism to irate people in red states who cling to their Bibles and guns to big government." From the article

Believe me, those irate people in red states who cling to their Bibles and guns will be a lot more irate without air conditioning. :)

22 posted on 07/12/2010 1:40:11 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Melas

Sorry, I disagree. Living here..it IS a necessity.


23 posted on 07/12/2010 1:40:50 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (I'll just say the 2nd amendment to the Constitution is there for a reason!)
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To: Army Air Corps

That’s what I was afraid of. Our Overlords will stay comfortably cool, while we are miserable and on our way to heatstroke. This guy is a Luddite of the first order, and right up there with the people who ruined our toilets and who are attempting to do away with plastic shopping bags. A plague on their houses.


24 posted on 07/12/2010 1:41:24 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Marcus

Remember all the whining and hand wringing when some elderly people succumbed to the heat wave in Chicago a few years ago? Is the left again calling for the elimination of those who inconvenience their agenda?


25 posted on 07/12/2010 1:41:54 PM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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Tell the idiot to go turn off his electricity and sweat in the dark. There were anti-technology twits like this guy in the 18th Century...Luddites. Luckily for us, our ancestors ignored them.


26 posted on 07/12/2010 1:41:58 PM PDT by Clioman (wHAT)
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To: Melas
Stan is a moron, but AC is a luxury, not a necessity.

True, but it is a luxury I pay for out of my own pocket. Stan can go take a long walk off a short pier.

27 posted on 07/12/2010 1:42:23 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Marcus

Perhaps someone should swing by where Stan llives and makes sure his building does not have central air. I’d imagine living higher up than the first floor in a high rise might be just a tad uncomfortable without it?


28 posted on 07/12/2010 1:43:31 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: colorado tanker

I have those curly light bulbs all in my house. They suck in ceiling fans. They do not work well in cold, like on the porch in winter. They don’t last as long as they say they will, they cost ten times as much and they don’t make a bright light. Other than that they are okay..........


29 posted on 07/12/2010 1:43:51 PM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. He's just some guy in the neighborhood.............)
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To: Marcus

The problem with stupid liberal morons like this is that they have waaaaay too much time on their hands.


30 posted on 07/12/2010 1:44:15 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: decimon
No A/C for government buildings - politicians homes or cars. No A/C for Greens, code pink, ACLU, NOW, PhDs at Ivy League schools, apartment dwellers in San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, New York etc.,
31 posted on 07/12/2010 1:44:20 PM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: Marcus

‘’Greatly restricted’’ means ‘’except for the elite’’, doncha know?


32 posted on 07/12/2010 1:45:22 PM PDT by Waco (From Seward to Sarah)
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To: Lucky9teen

If it was a necessity, all those people who lived there in the 1940’s wouldn’t have been able to do so. It’s a luxury.


33 posted on 07/12/2010 1:45:40 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Marcus

34 posted on 07/12/2010 1:45:57 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: Melas
The area was populated before air-conditioning and people did alright.

Not in high rise building where the windows don't even open.

The growth of the 'Sun Belt' is a direct result of air conditioning.

35 posted on 07/12/2010 1:46:35 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Time to Clean House.)
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To: Marcus
A better idea. The limitations concerning A/C would only apply to the gov't. Other than the military, the gov't would not be allowed to use A/C. To further control the gov't bureaucrats (management levels and higher), they along with members of Congress will be required to wear business formal with long sleeve shirts, dark colored suit jackets and slacks. Additionally they cannot take their suit jackets off during the day except for meal breaks.

This also begs the question, what about computer rooms used by the private sector ? I know servers can put out a lot of heat,

From the Article: So, an attempt to ban air conditioning for all but "necessary purposes" (like Congress and the White House) would not exactly be beyond the pale. Indeed, opponents of Cap-and-Trade should remain vigilant, lest such a ban be slipped into the legislation.
36 posted on 07/12/2010 1:47:06 PM PDT by CORedneck
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Maybe it’s all part of the Obamacare plan...kill off the old people in the summer to reduce costs. Providing medical coverage for illegals, one dead grandma at a time. You know...just taking the lives Americans don’t want to live.


37 posted on 07/12/2010 1:48:37 PM PDT by Mich Patriot (New 'green' idea: use illegals for target practice instead of wasting paper.)
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To: Marcus
The government should ban, the government should restrict, the government should control, the government should regulate, the government should deny, the government should tax, the government should nationalize... (fill in the rest of the sentence with any private sector area)

Some people insist and DEMAND that we live under tyranny.

38 posted on 07/12/2010 1:49:59 PM PDT by GregoTX
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To: Red Badger

Some air conditioning may be a necessity in some areas. People can adapt to temperatures in the eighties both outside and inside. But people who get used to air conditioning in the low seventies at home, in cars, at work, and out shopping never adapt.

Indoor temperatures near 70 is an expensive waste of energy. I’ve been to shopping malls where summer air conditioned temperatures seemed lower than winter heating temperatures. Eighty degrees is entirely sufficient for air conditioning. The way to get there is to have peak electricity use for air conditioning be very expensive.


39 posted on 07/12/2010 1:50:50 PM PDT by Aroostook25
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My question is does old Stanley have A/C in his car, his office, his home?

Someone should drive by this guys work and house and see if he has an A/C unit outside. Although he might not have an outdoor unit it is worth the ride to see if someone can embarrass him.
40 posted on 07/12/2010 1:51:08 PM PDT by JSteff (((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)))
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To: Marcus

Yes,

And we need to go back to horses, Pony Express, Stage Coaches so that the “Ice Man” business can boom again! Not to mention the buggy whip industry. With emissions control equipment on all of the horses asses too of course! (Beginning with him.)


41 posted on 07/12/2010 1:51:35 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: Red Badger

I’m hoping the industry will come out with an incandescent bulb that uses a lot less power so that Congress will reverse the ban.


42 posted on 07/12/2010 1:51:38 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Lucky9teen

As a fellow Arizona resident, “AMEN!”


43 posted on 07/12/2010 1:51:44 PM PDT by AngelaAZ
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To: Marcus

We need to start with outlawing the AC in DC first...As stated by New York Times columnist Russell Baker (’78) pre Air Conditioned Congress was forced to adjourn to avoid Washington’s torturous summers, and “the nation enjoyed a respite from the promulgation of more laws, the depredations of lobbyists, the hatching of new schemes for Federal expansion and, of course, the cost of maintaining a government running at full blast”...Sounds like a good start to me....


44 posted on 07/12/2010 1:51:46 PM PDT by johnsmom
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To: Marcus

Great...that’ll put The Deep South right back into 1930’s....real quick...


45 posted on 07/12/2010 1:52:26 PM PDT by mo
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To: Melas

>> but AC is a luxury, not a necessity.

I guess you could say the same thing for heat and light bulbs. /s


46 posted on 07/12/2010 1:52:59 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: colorado tanker

Maybe an LED version, but incandescents are what they are. You can’t change the laws of physics..........


47 posted on 07/12/2010 1:53:42 PM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. He's just some guy in the neighborhood.............)
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To: johnsmom
We need to start with outlawing the AC in DC first..

+1. Let them lead by example.

48 posted on 07/12/2010 1:54:21 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Marcus

Try it at your house first, Stan, and let us know how MRS. Cox likes it. If she signs off on it I will think about it. But not too hard.


49 posted on 07/12/2010 1:57:08 PM PDT by CarWashMan
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To: Melas

So...because it wasn’t around in the 40’s for people to use, therefore it’s not a necessity?

Stupid logic.

Regardless, as someone else posted...I pay for it out of my pocket. So the point is rather mute on necessity or not.


50 posted on 07/12/2010 1:57:40 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (I'll just say the 2nd amendment to the Constitution is there for a reason!)
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