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The Loneliness of Governor Schwarzenegger
LA Times ^ | 7/12/10 | Jennifer Steinhauer

Posted on 07/12/2010 2:50:30 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

LOS ANGELES — If the mark of a real independent is lack of friends, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is the quintessential nonpartisan in American politics right now.

His approval rating has not risen above 30 percent since May 2009. California remains in deep fiscal distress. He is despised by the state’s workers (whose pay he cut), Democrats (who loathe his aversion to new taxes and his desire to cut entitlements) and Republicans (who wish those respective aversions and desires were stronger), as well as college students, public school parents and people who hate the smell of cigars.

As Governor Schwarzenegger prepares to leave office in January, the lesson from his seven-year effort may be this: Being an independent can win you a lot of things: an election, even re-election, and new policies. But that’s not the same as having people like you.

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His left-leaning proclivities on issues like the environment and health care were never enough to mollify the state’s liberals; among the state’s conservatives, his right-leaning views on pension reform and crime did not compensate for the taxes he once raised and the deals he cut with Democrats.

It is an experience others who claim independence know well: the candidate Barack Obama, who won plaudits for promising to work in the spirit of compromise, but is now taking a beating from both parties; ..

You can’t really please any of the people much of the time. “There were people all the way through, people who were disappointed,” Mr. Schwarzenegger said as he pulled on a cigar during a recent interview in his Santa Monica office. Some “who thought I should be more conservative, some who thought I should be more liberal. Some people thought I should be more dissenting.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; arnoldlegacy; california; epicfail; epicfailure; goodriddance; incompetent; kennedy; liberal; loneliness; lousyactor; lousypolitician; missinggraydavis; mrshriver; rino; schwarzenegger; theaustrian; totalfailure; trojanhorse; worsethanbustamante

1 posted on 07/12/2010 2:50:33 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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conservative, hardly.. in any way shape or form..

disappointed people? lots of ‘em.. lots

is that wails and lamentations of taxpayers I hear in the distance?

so long Gub.
Nice try,, but no cigar.


2 posted on 07/12/2010 2:53:43 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: NormsRevenge

My heart bleeds—LOL!


3 posted on 07/12/2010 2:55:05 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh Boo Hoo. The guy is a freakin RINO.


4 posted on 07/12/2010 3:03:07 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: NormsRevenge
“He clearly goes down as the biggest political reformer in modern history of California,” said Jim Brulte, a Republican and a former lawmaker who has not always agreed with the governor.

Reformer? Is that what you call it? I can think of other words.

He did more to kill conservatism and bankrupt the state than anyone in the history of California, IMO.

5 posted on 07/12/2010 3:03:45 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("California just got the best politicians money can buy." -- AuntB)
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To: NormsRevenge

He made a better Terminator than a governor.


6 posted on 07/12/2010 3:06:03 PM PDT by lardog (Write in "Dump Obama" on your ballot in November. A vote of No Confidence)
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To: NormsRevenge; calcowgirl; Impy

I said in 2003 he’d be an epic fail disaster and he’s proven I wuz right.


7 posted on 07/12/2010 3:24:47 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

But he delivered California for Bush!

(oh.... wait a minute...)


8 posted on 07/12/2010 3:33:01 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("California just got the best politicians money can buy." -- AuntB)
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To: calcowgirl

...and McCain and... *cough*

Gee whiz, how many times did I shoot down those bull$hit claims that Ah-nold would be like the magical Republican genie ? Where are all those lying asshat sycophants and paid bots now ?


9 posted on 07/12/2010 3:40:56 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: NormsRevenge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_YHsgLTZzk

The Arnold in this video faded away more and more as the years went on while in office...


10 posted on 07/12/2010 3:42:00 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: NormsRevenge
Arnie has no friends because he pisses of EVERYONE!

Arnie has NO PRINCIPLES.

Arnie is in no man's land because of his arbitrary political ideology. Arnie deserves this. Perhaps he will force him to do some soul searching.

11 posted on 07/12/2010 3:44:06 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: calcowgirl

Yea, he sure did, didn’t he!

But he delivered California for Bush!

(oh.... wait a minute...)

I distictly remember Biblical Christinaity CHEERING everyone on to vote for Arnie. I couldn’t believe it. Maybe NOW, he “sees the light”?

I had addressed this to him but see he changed his moniker.


12 posted on 07/12/2010 3:46:38 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; calcowgirl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_YHsgLTZzk

This is the Arnold many were hoping for...he may have still been there at the very start but then decided to go for political expediency shortly into his tenure in office.


13 posted on 07/12/2010 3:47:32 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: nmh

If you try to be all things to all people you end up being nothing to everyone.


14 posted on 07/12/2010 3:48:49 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: NormsRevenge
You would have thought an actor would have learned a little from the movies. Mr. Miyagi said it best in the "Karate Kid:"

"Walk on road, hm? Walk left side, safe. Walk right side, safe. Walk middle, sooner or later get squish just like grape."

But I think Arnold did a little talking on the right side and more walking on the left.

15 posted on 07/12/2010 3:51:50 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Yes ... .

Pragmatism doesn’t work out well.

Standing on the RIGHT principles does work out well, eventually.


16 posted on 07/12/2010 3:56:37 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: NormsRevenge
So the author doesn't realize the irony of her own article.
Arnold did everything that the Left wanted Republicans to do. He moved to the middle, placated the environmentalists, and tried to work with Dems. In short, he was the very essence of that magical "moderate" Republicans that the Dems and liberal media tout incessantly.
So what happens? Predictably, he's still hated by the Left because he's still a Republican and didn't go far enough, he's hated by the Right for abandoning conservatism, and the independents are simply disillusioned.
It's the biggest lie in politics: That Republicans need to move to the middle in order to win elections. If Arnold would have been a bold conservative, he would have been a true hero.
Now, Whitman is doing the same thing. Chasing after those mythical moderate voters, sucking up to the illegals, etc. She is spending millions of dollars to essentially be Arnold's 3rd term.
17 posted on 07/12/2010 3:57:00 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: NormsRevenge

What real conservative would marry a Kennedy family member?
Good riddens Govenor. You have been terminated!


18 posted on 07/12/2010 4:03:03 PM PDT by charles1252
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To: NormsRevenge
Arnold Schwarzenegger never had what it took to become governor in the first place. California has perhaps the stupidest electorate in the nation. They put this clown into office in a special election where they had the chance to put in a really good candidate in Tom McClintock. But in California it's cool to have a movie star as governor. Well the typical California troglodyte voter made their voice heard and we have a mess on our hands. Arnold didn't have the smarts or savvy or the education or the background/experience for the job and anyone paying attention should have know that. I warned people that he wasn't up to the job but I know several who voted for him anyway. I guess they really believed he was gonna go to Sacramento and kick *ss. He went to Sacramento and got rolled.

If you voted for Arnold first time around you need some remedial training.
19 posted on 07/12/2010 4:03:32 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

>In short, he was the very essence of that magical “moderate” Republicans that the Dems and liberal media tout incessantly.<

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Another ‘Maverick’ like that senator from AZ that many in that state want to re-elect.


20 posted on 07/12/2010 4:17:31 PM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM - America's inevitable road to destruction.)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Unfortunately, he was just reading from a script and lying through his teeth (economics degree? Hah!) I have little doubt that it was just a paid advertising gig for Arnie.
He wouldn't know free enterprise if it bit him in his oversized gluteus maximus.
21 posted on 07/12/2010 4:24:56 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("California just got the best politicians money can buy." -- AuntB)
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To: Republican Wildcat

...he may have still been there at the very start ....

&&&
I doubt it. He has always been where the Kennedys wanted him to be.


22 posted on 07/12/2010 4:27:59 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: truthguy
Arnold Schwarzenegger never had what it took to become governor in the first place. California has perhaps the stupidest electorate in the nation. They put this clown into office in a special election where they had the chance to put in a really good candidate in Tom McClintock.

I still want to rub it in to the people on this site that supported this idiot. The McClinock supporters were ridiculed because they said that a conservative couldn't win here. I now wish Davis would have stayed. Read my tagline for the past yrs.

23 posted on 07/12/2010 6:21:10 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: Digger
We are in complete agreement. I wasn't on FR at the time but I've heard others express the same sentiments that they believed Arnold Schwarzenegger was a conservative. I knew he wasn't and was only pretending to be. The guy is a clown and I knew this for some specific reasons.

KSFO Radio and another radio station in SOCAL were the driving forces behind the California Recall Petition in 2003. Without these stations, the recall never would have happened. Arnold would have never made it to the statehouse in the conventional sense. He could not have survived a Republican Primary. He would have been flushed out during this process. But he skated through in the special election. Arnold didn't have the decency to come onto the two Radio Stations that were responsible for putting him into the governorship. He lacked the courage to stand up to the barrage of questions that the hosts and listeners would have put before him. He lacked the knowledge and he would have been skewed on either one of these radio shows. Tom McClintock was and is a frequent guest on these stations and he takes on all questions. So there we have it. This is how I knew Arnold was an AH and it was obvious. The people who voted for him were fools.
24 posted on 07/12/2010 7:06:35 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Arnold - “Welcome to the Hotel California”.


25 posted on 07/12/2010 9:20:41 PM PDT by Patron92
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Where are all those lying asshat sycophants and paid bots now ?

They're pushing Mitt Romney's candidacy on the Romney threads now....

Their mantra: HE CAN WIN!!!

26 posted on 07/13/2010 3:10:43 AM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: NormsRevenge

You should have heard John and Ken of kfi640.com mocking this article yesterday.


27 posted on 07/13/2010 9:12:53 AM PDT by NathanR (,)
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To: truthguy

He came on KFI numberous times during his elections. Not so much when he veered left.


28 posted on 07/13/2010 9:20:03 AM PDT by NathanR (,)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; NormsRevenge; calcowgirl; Impy
>> I said in 2003 he’d be an epic fail disaster and he’s proven I wuz right. <<

Amen. Ahnuld's positions on the issues differed little from Cruz Bustamante and he governed just like the DIABLO (Democrat In All But Label Only) that we predicted he'd be. Not ONE of the lofty predictions his cheerleaders on this board made (he'll deliver California to Bush, he'll get the budget under control, he'll end Democrat dominance of the General Assembly, etc.) came to pass.

I can think of precisely ONE instance where I was proud of Ahnuld as Governor -- the Tookie Williams execution where the Austrian socialists threatened to remove his name from their stadium and revoke his citizenship, and the Hollyweird crowd had a 24-7 candle vigil trying to turn the murderous Crips gang founding thug into a victim. Ahnuld called their bluff, told them all to F themselves, and nonchantly fried Tookie. But the fact of the matter is, Gray Davis was a pretty staunch death-penalty supporter and would have done the same thing. So despite Ahnold standing up to leftists for once in his life, there was no net gain in that circumstance either.

The problem with Ahnuld's supporters is they only cared about the short-term goal... what a morale victory it would be to "beat Gray Davis". You could have run ANYONE against Davis and they would have blindly voted for that person (and in hindsight Davis wasn't even as bad as Arnold!) The fact the candidate they rallied around to do so was fatally flawed was of little consequence to him. They just accepted Ahnold's scripted talking points about "Milton Friedman" and believed his conservative backers would sway a man wedded to the Kennedy klan. Bad mistake. Now we see the long term effects of a "Republican" doing the Democrats dirty work for them over two terms.

I do feel better when some of Ahnuld's formerly staunch supporters here have admitted they were wrong and now say they would have voted for Tom McClintock in hindsight. But will this lesson be learned in other races? I'm hopefully with Mark Kirk's latest (in a decade long record of treason) action, supporting Elega Kagan, will finally cause the GOP base to accept that Mark Kirk is NOT a Republican, he is just a swarmy socialist Democrat running as a Republican. Indeed, just like Arnold, Mark Kirk is to the LEFT of many card-carrying Chicago Democrat politicians. Imagine the damage he'll do after six years in office. Just like the California recall, within a few months of "Republican" Mark Kirk in power, we'll be wishing the worthless lame duck RAT Roland Burris was still in Obama's Senate seat.

29 posted on 08/02/2010 12:47:51 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy; Impy

Yeah, don’t have to sell me on a lot of that. I get a little sick and tired of all the rah-rah crap from a lot of folks when they say, “We gotta beat fill-in-the-blank” without considering that the person that beats Mr. or Mrs. Fill-in-the-blank may end up being worse in the long run for our cause. They only see the momentary “on paper” victory, but never the long term stuff, which is the most important. I called Ah-nold’s victory properly in 2003, that it was nothing but a Pyrrhic one. Ditto with the execrable Mark Kirk. If I’m really lucky, I might have a few (or maybe one) rah-rah’er come up to me long after the damage is done and lament to me, “Oh, you were right.” Whoopie. They shoulda listened ahead of time.


30 posted on 08/02/2010 1:02:38 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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