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EPA gives final "no" to Texas refinery permits
Scientific American ^ | 07/07/2010 | By Erwin Seba

Posted on 07/12/2010 5:03:16 PM PDT by EBH

Leading U.S. independent refiner Valero Energy Corp faulted the decision. San Antonio-based Valero has six Texas refineries, the most owned by a single company. The plants employ 2,700 people.

"When the flex permit program was rolled out in 1994, EPA and environmental groups applauded it, and EPA approval seemed implicit," said Valero spokesman Bill Day in a statement. "Now, 16 years later, EPA is reversing course, and our facilities are caught in the middle, creating significant uncertainty at a time when our economy can least afford it."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: agenda; bhoenergy; bhoepa; capandtax; capandtrade; energy; epa; fascist; obama; obamanomics; obamasfault; obamaswarontheusa; oil; oilspill; palin; refineries; refining; teaparty; texas; valero
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1 posted on 07/12/2010 5:03:19 PM PDT by EBH
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To: EBH

Shutting America down, by oppressive suffocating federal regulation. Just like what Kagan described in her paper “presidential regulation”.


2 posted on 07/12/2010 5:05:23 PM PDT by Tarpon (Obama-Speak ... the fusion of sophistry and Newspeak. It's not a gift, it's just lies.)
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To: EBH

EPA is reversing course, and our facilities are caught in the middle, creating significant uncertainty at a time when our economy can least afford it.”

Amazing how this administration creates uncertainty
where ever it touches.


3 posted on 07/12/2010 5:07:14 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: EBH
the federal government just declared economic war on Texas and EVERY TEXAS DEMOCRAT should be booted out on his/her a$$.

Every parasite that depends on the democrat should be flushed out and defunded at the state level and every means should be employed to fine/tax/levy federal monies to the state coffers.

Vote for FLORES over the quisling Chet Edwards (democrat butt-boy to nancy pelosi)

4 posted on 07/12/2010 5:07:14 PM PDT by erman (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.)
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To: EBH

We should expect this to be just the beginning. Salazar has stated he wants gasoline to be eight dollars a gallon. All part of the One’s war to elimanate the middle class.


5 posted on 07/12/2010 5:07:34 PM PDT by Free_SJersey (Celebrate Diversity------------ Divide and Conquer?)
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To: EBH

Obama and the EPA - taking jobs away from Americans who want to work.

Yep, that changey hopey thingy.


6 posted on 07/12/2010 5:07:44 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Tarpon

Obama: “Destroying white america is our goal! We will not stop until white america gives us their stuff!”


7 posted on 07/12/2010 5:08:48 PM PDT by MrPiper
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To: EBH

The time is coming when people will be forced to choose between obedience and survival.


9 posted on 07/12/2010 5:11:20 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (How many Michael Steele gaffes does it take to make a pattern?)
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To: EBH

The Democrats’ War On Prosperity continues...


10 posted on 07/12/2010 5:12:08 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: EBH
This action is known rightly as treason and sabotage!
11 posted on 07/12/2010 5:12:46 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: EBH
Texas refineries have a combined crude oil throughput of 4.75 million barrels, equal to 26.8 percent of national refining capacity.

Wow! 26.8%! That's a lot isn't it FUBO?

It Begins… First Oil Rig Relocates From Gulf to Foreign Waters

"As a result of the uncertainties surrounding the offshore drilling moratorium, we are actively seeking international opportunities to keep our rigs fully employed," Dickerson said. "We greatly regret the loss of U.S. jobs that will result from this rig relocation."

It is not just Gulf operations that are being effected either.

Wait and see for Shell {Shell puts Arctic drilling plans on hold, waiting on feds}

The 0bama-Democrat-RINO (Progressive) "No Domestic Energy Policy!"

All of that puts the U.S. in a position that war for oil or
complete economic collapse will be our only choices.
You can't frustrate every source of domestic energy
without consequences. Our enemies will blackmail us
to the extent that we are vulnerable to blackmail.

0bama, the Democrats and RINOs are leading us into a real war for oil.
A war we won't have the energy to fight.
A war we don't need to fight because we have our own resources.

12 posted on 07/12/2010 5:17:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: TigersEye

btt


13 posted on 07/12/2010 5:19:13 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: TigersEye

As a result of the uncertainties....

...creating significant uncertainty at a time when our economy can least afford it....

They are getting real good at this uncertainty and unexpected stuff....


14 posted on 07/12/2010 5:20:20 PM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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To: EBH

Received in email...TX Dem gov. candidate related to the refinery shutdowns:

From the RPT:

President Obama’s EPA has decided to mess with Texas, and they may be doing it on Bill White’s behalf. News broke on Wednesday that the EPA is rejecting Texas’ flexible permit system, a system that been in place for 16 years, has enjoyed bipartisan support, and has actually worked to reduce NOX emissions in Texas better than the EPA’s own programs work in other states. Gov. Perry, Lt. Gov. Dewhurst, Attorney General Abbott, and indeed all of the Republican leadership in Texas are outraged by the EPA’s actions.

As usual, there’s more to the story. The Democrats’ nominee for governor, Bill White, is right in the middle of the EPA’s extreme and unnecessary move. According to an editorial by the Houston Chronicle, White met with EPA regional director Al Armendariz last fall, and that meeting apparently spurred the EPA’s drive to attack Texas.

Mayor White has also been critical of the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality as being too lax in enforcing state laws against polluters.....

After meeting with White, EPA officials announced that many of the TCEQ rules are in violation of the federal Clean Air Act.

Did the Democrat who wants to be Texas’ governor collude with the Obama EPA to hit Texas hard, putting Texas families and businesses at risk in the process, so he can play politics and blame it all on Gov. Rick Perry? Whatever one wants to call that, it certainly isn’t putting Texans first. Bill White needs to answer for this assault on our state.

As this move builds on the EPA’s decision to regulate CO2 without Congressional input, we seem to be looking at an agency that the Obama administration is using to command and control the US economy to further its far left statist agenda. The Obama administration wants to control everything - private industry, health care, everything - as part of President Obama’s campaign promise to “fundamentally transform America.” Even more appalling, these power grabs come at us while the Democrats in the White House and Congress show rank incompetence in their existing duties of securing the border and dealing with the oil spill that occurred in federal waters. And despite his recent rhetorical attempts to distance himself from his masters in the Democratic Party, Bill White is obviously arm in arm with them the whole way.


15 posted on 07/12/2010 5:23:03 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan eet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: EBH

What would happen if the refineries in Texas just told the EPA to stuff it, and continued to produce oil?


16 posted on 07/12/2010 5:23:18 PM PDT by JoeA (JoeA / Welcome to the Second American Revolution)
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To: Psalm 144
equal to 26.8 percent of national refining capacity.

It is coming much sooner than many folks think.

17 posted on 07/12/2010 5:23:50 PM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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To: givemELL
EPA officials announced that many of the TCEQ rules are in violation of the federal Clean Air Act.

Sixteen years worth of rules are in violation? C'mon now...we see you, really we do...we see what you are up too.

18 posted on 07/12/2010 5:26:24 PM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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To: EBH
Uncertainty sure has a devastating economic effect doesn't it? The markets, industry, banks, individual investors, foreign countries, small businesses, families ...

Everyone is battened down and retreating. The Man-Child President is going to find that it's much harder to instill confidence than it is to kill it. Assuming he ever decides to do that.

19 posted on 07/12/2010 5:28:42 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: bfree

Change the tagline or leave!


20 posted on 07/12/2010 5:31:34 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: EBH

Insanity.


21 posted on 07/12/2010 5:35:42 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (No matter who you think you are, God retains His pardon and veto powers.)
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To: EBH
Time to take the EPA to court to demonstrate arbitrary and untimely rule changes.
22 posted on 07/12/2010 5:35:47 PM PDT by G Larry (Democrats: expediting the Destruction of America, before they lose power...)
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To: EBH
These executive should tell the communists at the EPA to go to hell and then see what they will do to enforce it.

Its high time for civil disobedience against the marxists.

23 posted on 07/12/2010 5:36:23 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: EBH

It’s sickening to watch. These people are shutting down America any way they can. Killing the greatest nation on the planet for what? Some retarded green dream.


24 posted on 07/12/2010 5:37:53 PM PDT by vpintheak (Love of God, Family and Country has made me an extremist.)
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To: givemELL
As this move builds on the EPA’s decision to regulate CO2 without Congressional input,...

So this industry/economy killing move is about CO2?

Greenhouse theory is pure bunkum.

No Smoking Hot Spot (The Australian)

The Hidden Flaw in Greenhouse Theory

Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics

Harvard astrophysicist dismisses AGW theory, challenges peers to 'take back climate science'

It Is Impossible For A 100 ppm Increase In Atmospheric CO2 Concentration To Cause Global Warming

Claim That Sea Level Is Rising Is a Total Fraud

25 posted on 07/12/2010 5:39:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: EBH

This is the difference between a politicized economy and rule of law. Rule of law, you may or may not like the rules but everyone knows what they are, they know what they will be tomorrow, and they know how the courts are going to rule before you ever go to court. So you just get on with it. You make your plans accordingly and go.

In a politicized economy, you don’t know what they rules will be tomorrow and you don’t know how the courts will rule. So you have to have friends in high places. For self-defense you have to have contacts, you have to have people in office who will take your calls, you have to be able to call in favors when you need them. You have to be able to shape the rules as they come down, purely in self defense.

This is oligarchy. Politicized economies always produce oligarchy. The businesses who can navigate and control the politics prosper. The others keep their heads down, try and move their money to safe havens, and hope for better days.


26 posted on 07/12/2010 5:40:07 PM PDT by marron
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To: EBH
You commie Yankee motherf******.

World of hurt reserved for y'all.

And not the least of which is your own idiot cities starving, baking, and freezing to death.

Change you can be extinct to.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

27 posted on 07/12/2010 5:44:55 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: erman

No Kidding, Chet is quite the scumbag. I was glad when they re-distrcited and I got Carter instead of this O-hole.


28 posted on 07/12/2010 5:46:02 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: EBH

bump


29 posted on 07/12/2010 5:52:17 PM PDT by VOA
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To: buwaya

Yeah here are a couple more uncertainties...

I think it is EPA night for me...LOL.


30 posted on 07/12/2010 5:52:20 PM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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To: EBH

Texas should just write back the EPA and say, “Dear EPA—kiss our asses...”


31 posted on 07/12/2010 5:53:43 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Rome2000
These executives ...

The state of Texas should step in and tell the EPA to go F___ itself.

32 posted on 07/12/2010 6:01:44 PM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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To: EBH

Gee....how long do ya think New York, DC , LA and Chicago would run if Texas closed its refineries..


33 posted on 07/12/2010 6:06:55 PM PDT by mo
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To: mo

They can’t use Texas gasoline.


34 posted on 07/12/2010 6:09:40 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: EBH
Do it anyway!

Force him to call out the NG or SEIU.

SURELY you have a few roughnecks that would just LOVE to get a peice of gummint force

35 posted on 07/12/2010 6:11:24 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Tarpon
Shutting America down, by oppressive suffocating federal regulation. Just like what Kagan described in her paper “presidential regulation”.

Sums it up - Shutting America down -The agenda is more than oil.

EPA Agrees to Review Air Pollution Rules for 28 Industries

U.S. EPA has agreed to examine its air pollution rules for 28 industry sectors within the next eight years, setting the stage for review of the emissions control technologies used by large sectors including the paper, furniture and aerospace industries...

...Among other sectors that would face review are aluminum production, cement manufacturing, lead smelting, pesticide manufacturing, pharmaceuticals production and shipbuilding...

36 posted on 07/12/2010 6:17:31 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: EBH

Treason.....


37 posted on 07/12/2010 6:17:39 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: marron

“This is oligarchy. Politicized economies always produce oligarchy...”

FWIW...progressive income tax always results in Oligarchy as well...its the mechanism by which the wealthy induce the sale and purchase of a government.


38 posted on 07/12/2010 6:20:50 PM PDT by mo
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To: EBH

Wow ... 27% of US refining capacity just got thrown into economic limbo because Zero changed the rules. This means 27% of gasoline and chemicals supply will be vulnerable to the whims of gov zombies. Enviro’s win again ...


39 posted on 07/12/2010 6:22:42 PM PDT by Nobel_1 (bring on the Patriots!)
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To: Nobel_1; blam
27% of US refining capacity

I don't think anyone here quite realizes what the Texas Take Over means. Add on moratoriums...

It is all just enough to push us over the edge.

40 posted on 07/12/2010 6:30:16 PM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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To: EBH

Perhaps Texas should go private ... as an independent country. It would be good for Texas and good for America at this point.


41 posted on 07/12/2010 6:46:06 PM PDT by Nobel_1 (bring on the Patriots!)
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To: EBH

Just another example of the Obama regime going after Red States by either failing to give them disaster aid or by imposing restrictions/suing.

AZ (illegal aliens); OK (no aid for flooding/tornadoes); TX (drilling and refineries); LA and MS (drilling and tornadoes); AL and FL (drilling); TN (flooding); AK (drilling).

Most corrupt regime in my life and they don’t even attempt to hide their dirty dealing like RMN, JFK and LBJ did.


42 posted on 07/12/2010 6:46:43 PM PDT by octex
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To: tet68; neverdem; narses

Deliberate attack on a “red” industry. Oil is HATED by the liberals. Texas oil is particularly despised since the Johnson and Kennedy era. Deliberate (non-decision) to revoke previous administration process.


43 posted on 07/12/2010 6:52:27 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: TigersEye; EBH; y'all

“Texas refineries have a combined crude oil throughput of 4.75 million barrels, equal to 26.8 percent of national refining capacity.”
~~~
Louisiana produces about 25% of the total energy for the US

and 80% of the home heating oil,,,

You folks that use oil for heat would be smart to top off

your tanks for next winter if you can,,,

The next thing they’ll try is to shutdown refineries in

the area of Lake Charles,La. ,,,

Get Ready,,,

INCOMING!!!...


44 posted on 07/12/2010 6:57:02 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Admin Moderator

Whatever. Won’t change my feelings or those of many others.


45 posted on 07/12/2010 7:10:59 PM PDT by bfree (The revolution is coming and it will be violent- FUBO)
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To: EBH
I don't think anyone here quite realizes what the Texas Take Over means. Add on moratoriums...

I do. All of the refineries in the country run year around at near full capacity to supply our needs. Even in the best of times a 26% reduction in production would mean the country would come to a standstill.

46 posted on 07/12/2010 7:19:22 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Psalm 144

Those ain’t the only choices.


47 posted on 07/12/2010 7:36:13 PM PDT by dusttoyou (Remember come November)
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To: JoeA
If you expect resistance and civil disobedience from major corporations, you seriously misread reality. The bigger the corp, the more ready they are to fold like a cheap suit. BP is the most recent case in point. The Usurper growls at them and they peel off 20 billion in cash.

Forget your Ayn Rand corporate heroes. They do not exist.

48 posted on 07/12/2010 8:18:20 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: EBH

The minute I heard about the EPA interferring with the Texas permits, I suspected that shutting down the Gulf refineries is a great plan if you happen to have a lot of oil that was spilled in the Gulf and skimmers were collecting it to be refined. Whoa! A great plan if you are Obama.
Once this administration is actually forced to collect the oil, there has to be a Plan B to screw it up.


49 posted on 07/12/2010 10:59:21 PM PDT by virgin (Don't screw with me.)
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To: EBH

Sounds like a RICO suit may apply here.


50 posted on 07/13/2010 3:25:44 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners, no mercy. 2010 is here...)
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