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Police battle Irish nationalists for control of a Belfast road.
Yahoo! News ^ | Monday July 12, 2010 | SHAWN POGATCHNIK

Posted on 07/12/2010 6:01:12 PM PDT by Stayfrosty

BELFAST, Northern Ireland – Police battled Irish nationalists for control of a Belfast road Monday as a day dominated by peaceful Protestant parades across Northern Ireland turned violent when night fell.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: belfast; catholic; clinton; failure; goodfriday; ira; ireland; nireland; northireland; obama; protestant; terrorism; unitedkingdom; wot

1 posted on 07/12/2010 6:01:15 PM PDT by Stayfrosty
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To: Stayfrosty

WTF ?? I thought we were done with all this “stuff”


2 posted on 07/12/2010 6:02:38 PM PDT by onona (dbada)
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To: onona

IIRC, a couple of weeks ago, someone stabbed a football player in the neck. It’s far, far from over.


3 posted on 07/12/2010 6:06:19 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: onona

IIRC, a couple of weeks ago, someone stabbed a football player in the neck. It’s far, far from over.


4 posted on 07/12/2010 6:06:19 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: onona

IIRC, a couple of weeks ago, someone stabbed a football player in the neck. It’s far, far from over.


5 posted on 07/12/2010 6:06:19 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: James C. Bennett

I also read that an IED went off on a bridge a couple of days ago, just missing either a police patrol or british army patrol. It ain’t over until the British leave, unfortunately.


6 posted on 07/12/2010 6:07:36 PM PDT by Stayfrosty
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To: Stayfrosty
Looks like you made a typo. Let me fix it for you.

It ain’t over until the British Papist terrorists leave

7 posted on 07/12/2010 6:12:47 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: onona

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cbb_1277525907

IED found in Armagh


8 posted on 07/12/2010 6:12:56 PM PDT by Stayfrosty
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To: PAR35

I’m sorry, I disagree with you. I think it’s well past due for the British to leave. They have been in Ireland for way too long :)


9 posted on 07/12/2010 6:14:22 PM PDT by Stayfrosty
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To: onona

When I was there after the ‘cease fire’ some years ago.....the locals told me that there would NEVER be an end to ‘The Troubles’...and never believe the media.


10 posted on 07/12/2010 6:31:11 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Where was the car bomb invented?


11 posted on 07/12/2010 6:33:59 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Stayfrosty

“peaceful Protestant parades”

Are these the antagonistic marches by the “Orangemen” gloating about their ancestors kicking Catholic ass over 400 years ago? Yeah, that sounds peaceful—and productive. Is a war their ancestors won 400 years ago all they have to be proud of? Turn the channel on the Pub telly to the news sometime—the Catholics aren’t the enemy anymore. Psssst, it’s the Moors!


12 posted on 07/12/2010 6:39:14 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Stayfrosty

Utterly silly - Doesn’t have a damned thing to do with the Christian religion, either Catholic or Protestant.


13 posted on 07/12/2010 6:47:02 PM PDT by cmj328 (Got ruthless?)
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To: cmj328

An American tourist went into a pub near Belfast. After a while one of the locals went up to the American and asked him “Are you a Protestant or a Catholic?” The American replied “I am a Jew.” The locan man asked “Are you a Protestant Jew or a Catholic Jew?”


14 posted on 07/12/2010 6:52:27 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Stayfrosty

“dominated by peaceful Protestant parades”

B.S.

There’s no such thing.


15 posted on 07/12/2010 7:05:20 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR....Monthly Donors Wanted.)
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To: Stayfrosty

“It ain’t over until the British leave, unfortunately.”

It will only get started when the British leave.


16 posted on 07/12/2010 7:29:04 PM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: forgotten man
tooo funny...
17 posted on 07/12/2010 8:13:49 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: ExpatGator

You’re right-When the Provo’s have the “field” all to themselves is when you’ll really see the fur fly. Sometimes the best way to destroy one’s enemy is to give them exactly what they want.


18 posted on 07/12/2010 8:16:09 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Stayfrosty

Hmmmm....Why now? Why would someone want to stir up trouble at this point...?

Was the Soccer player Northern Irish? Catholic? Was he on a mixed Protestant/Catholic team?

The IED was obviously an [”Catholic”] extremist response directed at the Brits, who are “authority figures.” But, anyone who believes that if the Brits simply “withdraw” that peace will come is BEYOND naive. More likely, what would follow is one of the largest massacres of Protestants since the Middle Ages. If not in the immediate, direct sense, then in the form of a slow, low intensity civil conflict carried out for years against the minority Proitestant population to FORCE them to leave Ireland entirely — or die.

But, why now? I thought Paisley and what’s his name from SInn Fein had worked out peace accords and set up a governing arrangement that had brought stability and “peace” — or at least “co-existence?” Who had something to gain by creating havoc and destablizing the accords?


19 posted on 07/12/2010 8:21:01 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: forgotten man

That IS a good one !


20 posted on 07/13/2010 1:49:04 AM PDT by onona (dbada)
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To: Stayfrosty

Firstly, the British (Engoish, Scots, Welsh) have been in Ireland since 1607. The English since the 12th C. So why should they ‘leave’?.

Secondly, you DO realise that the ‘native’ Irish are nothing of the sort?. The Gaels/Celts invaded Ireland themselves and annihilated the original inhabitants. So the Irish Republicans/Nationalists who scream for the British to leave are themselves merely the descendants of brutal invaders and subjugators...

Thirdly, we’ll leave Ireland when you give America back to the Indian. Fair enough?.


21 posted on 07/13/2010 4:59:03 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman

Well said.


22 posted on 07/13/2010 6:58:37 AM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: Stayfrosty

“They have been in Ireland for way too long :)”

I agree, the English should be worried about ENGLAND and the fact that they are LOSING THEIR COUNTRY TO THE MUSLIMS. When they wake up it will be too late.


23 posted on 07/13/2010 11:52:43 AM PDT by jim35 (Tea Party former Republican)
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To: jim35

Muslim pop. of Britain=3%.
Muslim pop. of US= 3%.


24 posted on 07/13/2010 2:19:46 PM PDT by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman

If you are happy with your Muslims more power to you. To address the snarky comment you made about America above, I will say if there WERE NO AMERICA you members of the “United Kingdom” would all be speaking GERMAN right now.


25 posted on 07/13/2010 3:03:27 PM PDT by jim35 (Tea Party former Republican)
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To: the scotsman

I’ve read estimates of the percentage of Muzzies in the U.S. being anywhere between 0.5% and 2.5%, as of 2001 when the last surveys were done. You can probably guess that since nobody really knows, that it’s most likely to be between these two numbers, but it’s certainly not 3%. The Muzzies, however, would love for us to believe this ridiculously inflated number, in order to gain more political clout than their tiny numbers would otherwise dictate.


26 posted on 07/13/2010 3:13:10 PM PDT by jim35 (Tea Party former Republican)
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To: Stayfrosty

Apparently this guy couldn't wait for the next Celtic vs Rangers match.

27 posted on 07/13/2010 3:15:03 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Stayfrosty

Thank you for your courteous response. We will obviously continue to disagree as to the root cause of the current problem.


28 posted on 07/13/2010 5:04:15 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: the scotsman
Whatever. That claim is a little ridiculous.

That being said, I do agree that regardless of the way that English and Scots came to N. Ireland, they have still lived there for hundreds of years. The Irish have to find a way to get along or else they are never going to be successful. I do not know how to comment on Orange parades, but if they are contentious then thats not helping any.

I think a better comparison is South Africa. For example, hard to tell a Boer and their family that has only ever known South Africa as home that they dont belong there.

29 posted on 07/14/2010 8:42:55 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: jim35

Its not a snarky comment, its a sarcy comment designed to show the stupidity of the ‘The British out of Ireland!’ argument. The English/British have been in Ireland for hundreds of years, just as the white man has been in the US for 400 years. Just as the Spanish and Portuguese and French and Dutch have been in South America, Asia and Africa for hundreds of years. To suggest ‘they should go home’ is a ridiculous argument. And thats what my America comment refers to.

As for your ww2 comment, you are better than that nonsense Jim.


30 posted on 07/14/2010 10:09:42 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: jim35

Being overly PC to them isnt the same as being taken over by them.


31 posted on 07/14/2010 10:10:47 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: KC_Conspirator

If you are referring to Bloody Sunday, there is definite evidence that IRA gunmen were in the Bogside Flats, and that they fired the first shot. The evidence, and this is important, comes from residents in that area, inc the local priest. These people are NOT pro-British, they were Catholic and sympathetic to Irish Nationalism/Republicanism. Yet they clearly state the first shot came from behind, which can only mean the IRA, as the Paras were well in front of the Bogside (the Paras famously had to ‘go into’ the Bogside).

In 1997, on its 25th anniversary programme on that fateful day, the major British TV channel Channel 4 investigated the day fully. And found evidence to support the IRA first theory AND it found photographic evidence, long forgotten, taken by newspaper photographers just prior to the march, of IRA men armed and in and around the flats on the Bogside.

There is also voluminous evidence since, post ceasefire, from ex-IRA men themselves that the IRA were there and fired first.

Remember this Saville Report has just said Martin McGuinness, Head of the Derry IRA Brigade, carried a submachine gun around that day but didnt fire it. Not even when the Paras were killing 13 people. Does that sound credible?.

IMO the Saville Report has fitted the facts to a predetermined conclusion.

Again, I will not defend the overreaction of the Paras that day, but they did not go into Derry that day with the intent to kill civilians.


32 posted on 07/14/2010 10:20:48 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: KC_Conspirator

If you are referring to the Gaels/Celts, sorry but what I said is true. The Gaels are NOT the original, ‘native’ people of Ireland, they are just one of the groups that invaded Ireland in ancient times.

They invaded Ireland in the south and systematically annihilated the inhabitants then living there, the Beaker People. So the descendants of Irish Nationalists who bemoan ‘foreign’ people in the island are themselves just the modern day descendants of a brutal Celtic tribe that invaded, pillaged, annihilated and subjugated.


33 posted on 07/14/2010 10:35:44 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/plantation/planters/es10.shtml

I seems that there is some history missing.


34 posted on 07/14/2010 11:58:43 AM PDT by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a poofter)
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